[VS] Rinnegan obito vs DSM kabuto

[Slick OmniBaba]

You're arguing with KG about warping when KG can't tell you how obito touches a guy who can see the entire battlefield in real time U_U

Leave him alone, you don't understand the digital bond we share.

 

[KidGamer65]

Trafficking around is going to be impossible if Obito can't even see. Would the sound aspect even work, I wonder?

Once White Rage has ended

Are you just ignoring this part? lol...

Considering Kabuto reacted to Susano'o arrow as well as blitzed Itachi(?) I'd imagine a Kabuto rips off his arm if he even tries to warp him. Dun be that guy, KG. If you wanna bring the Mazou into this I'll bring Madara and his Posse.

Kabuto didn't blitz Itachi, in fact Itachi was easily keeping up with him, and reacting to a Susanoo arrow means nothing here considering Kamui is faster. Obito simply phases through Kabuto's attacks and warps him away, if he tries to retaliate the moment Obito tries to warp him, Obito goes ghost mode, evades, and then touches him....he gets warped and the match is over.

@bold: Lol, really now? Fine then, its not like the Mazo is needed to deal with him anyway. U_U

You're arguing with KG about warping when KG can't tell you how obito touches a guy who can see the entire battlefield in real time U_U

I don't see how Kabuto being able to see the entire battlefield in real time won't let Obito touch him....oh wait, that's because it won't. It sure didn't stop him from getting touched during his battle with Itachi and Sasuke (Who barely did anything anyway) If Itachi or Sasuke managed to land a hit, a guy who can already keep up with KM Naruto's foot speed (No Shunshin) who can also teleport and move quickly around the battlefield via Kamui is obviously going to do so as well.


The only way Kabuto takes this is ET.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Are you just ignoring this part? lol...



Kabuto didn't blitz Itachi, in fact Itachi was easily keeping up with him, and reacting to a Susanoo arrow means nothing here considering Kamui is faster. Obito simply phases through Kabuto's attacks and warps him away, if he tries to retaliate the moment Obito tries to warp him, Obito goes ghost mode, evades, and then touches him....he gets warped and the match is over.

@bold: Lol, really now? Fine then, its not like the Mazo is needed to deal with him anyway. U_U



I don't see how Kabuto being able to see the entire battlefield in real time won't let Obito touch him....oh wait, that's because it won't. It sure didn't stop him from getting touched during his battle with Itachi and Sasuke (Who barely did anything anyway)

Oh, so obito's as fast as itachi now? Please show us instances of this amazing speed that's anywhere near itachi's shushin speed.
Obito's as fast as an enton arrow now? Come, please show us all this proof.

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh, so obito's as fast as itachi now? Please show us instances of this amazing speed that's anywhere near itachi's shushin speed.
Obito's as fast as an enton arrow now? Come, please show us all this proof.

-Can teleport via Kamui. That alone takes a dump on pretty much every speed argument you have to offer here.

-Can already keep up with KM Naruto's foot speed (Non Shunshin)

-Never said he was as fast as a Susanoo arrow on foot, nor does he need to be in order to get to Kabuto.

Don't know where you got "Kabuto can't be touched by Obito because of Sage Sensing" from, but its pure nonsense, especially against a teleporter.

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

Are you just ignoring this part? lol...



Kabuto didn't blitz Itachi, in fact Itachi was easily keeping up with him, and reacting to a Susanoo arrow means nothing here considering Kamui is faster. Obito simply phases through Kabuto's attacks and warps him away, if he tries to retaliate the moment Obito tries to warp him, Obito goes ghost mode, evades, and then touches him....he gets warped and the match is over.

@bold: Lol, really now? Fine then, its not like the Mazo is needed to deal with him anyway. U_U

Don't be that guy.

So Kabuto can't just use it again? I forgot how Obito counters Genjutsu.

It's been a while since I've seen that fight. Susano'o may be slower than Kamui but Obito isn't matched with it in speed. Kabuto will be able to react and prevent himself from being grappled; either by using his chakra scalpel or by liquefying that limb. Either way, the sage sensing isn't going to succumb to Obito.

So Obito > Madara, Nagato and Itachi? The latter of who'm defeated Kabuto?

Don't make me bring Zabuza into this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Don't be that guy.

So Kabuto can't just use it again?

Then Obito phases again. lol.

It's been a while since I've seen that fight. Susano'o may be slower than Kamui but Obito isn't matched with it in speed. Kabuto will be able to react and prevent himself from being grappled; either by using his chakra scalpel or by liquefying that limb. Either way, the sage sensing isn't going to succumb to Obito.

-If he uses a chakra scalpel, Obito would phase through it and grab him just like he did to Minato. [

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-Liquefying his limb doesn't mean Obito can't touch it. [

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Without ET, Kabuto has no way to even hit Obito let alone defeat him. Nor can he prevent Obito, who can literally walk through every offensive move Kabuto throws at him, from getting close to him. What is Kabuto going to do? Run away in the opposite direction? lol. If he even tries that Obito would simply sink in the ground and reappear right in front of his path, or he'd teleport.

So Obito > Madara, Nagato and Itachi? The latter of who'm defeated Kabuto?

Never said he was. Already said if ET is involved, Kabuto wins.

 

[AGoodBoy]

-Can teleport via Kamui. That alone takes a dump on pretty much every speed argument you have to offer here.

-Can already keep up with KM Naruto's foot speed (Non Shunshin)

-Never said he was as fast as a Susanoo arrow on foot, nor does he need to be in order to get to Kabuto.

Don't know where you got "Kabuto can't be touched by Obito because of Sage Sensing" from, but its pure nonsense, especially against a teleporter.

He coould warp and phase

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also. Still didn't give him the opportunity to warp a base gai using nunchaka. Guy who has considerably less perceptual awareness.
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, where naruto has far less sensing abilities than sm.
Km naruto's never shown considerable footspeed outside of shushin. Every instance of massive speed was during a shushin, alll other instances everyone else could keep up with him.

Is this all? Yet to see how obito touches a guy who's all about agility and evasion.

Also, haven't told us how he's breaking sound gen which just dumps on him.

 

[KidGamer65]

He coould warp and phase

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also. Still didn't give him the opportunity to warp a base gai using nunchaka. Guy who has considerably less perceptual awareness.

He couldn't warp Gai in a brief skirmish, why you are attempting to equate this to a drawn out battle beats me, considering the two things aren't comparable in the slightest.

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, where naruto has far less sensing abilities than sm.

Lol, again. What are you trying to prove here? Naruto evading Obito once and Gai not getting warped in a brief skirmish means nothing here as those aren't long and drawn out fights. None of your examples hold up at all. Not one bit.

Is this all? Yet to see how obito touches a guy who's all about agility and evasion.

I've yet to see a legit example supporting your arguments. Still failing to see how a teleporter who can phase through all of his attacks and hindrances will not get touched by Obito. Still failing to see how a guy who can sink into the ground and pretty much reappear anywhere will not be able to ever touch Kabuto, in an extended match.

 

[AGoodBoy]

He couldn't warp Gai in a brief skirmish, why you are attempting to equate this to a drawn out battle beats me, considering the two things aren't comparable in the slightest.


Lol, again. What are you trying to prove here? Naruto evading Obito once and Gai not getting warped in a brief skirmish means nothing here as those aren't long and drawn out fights. None of your examples hold up at all. Not one bit.



I've yet to see a legit example supporting your arguments. Still failing to see how a teleporter who can phase through all of his attacks and hindrances will not get touched by Obito. Still failing to see how a guy who can sink into the ground and pretty much reappear anywhere will not be able to ever touch Kabuto, in an extended match.

Oh, but yes they are. See, Obito's kamui warp only take a touch. He had more than plenty time in those scans, even when guy's back was turned, to do some damage. Yet he could do nothing. But you want to lead people to believe he can touch an SM user, when he couldn't even touch a non-sensor who didn't begin to try.

Really, now? Because you just said, "speed doesn't matter because obito can kamui". I just showed his warping is useless to someone with speed or the ability to know where he is. Like

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, also. What, it suddenly holds no weight? That's is 2 scans so far showing he couldn't surprise kamui people who didn't have the ability to do

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fodder.

I've made my point clear. Your only argument by this point is "kamui... just because". No reasoning for how he bypasses sensing, liquification, oral rebirth, counter attacking when obito tries to solidify so he can't grab or all those other things that make grabbing impossible. How about you make a legitimate argument for any of those. Or, tell us how obito's doing any of that while he's an immobilized vegetable inside sound gen.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Am I wrong to say that Gedo Mazo solo's ??

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

Madara has the Mazou. Not only that, he also has two Rinnegan - meaning his control is greater.

Then Obito phases again. lol.




-If he uses a chakra scalpel, Obito would phase through it and grab him just like he did to Minato. [

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-Liquefying his limb doesn't mean Obito can't touch it. [

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Without ET, Kabuto has no way to even hit Obito let alone defeat him. Nor can he prevent Obito, who can literally walk through every offensive move Kabuto throws at him, from getting close to him. What is Kabuto going to do? Run away in the opposite direction? lol. If he even tries that Obito would simply sink in the ground and reappear right in front of his path, or he'd teleport.





Never said he was. Already said if ET is involved, Kabuto wins.

:l

Then Kabuto uses it again...lol.

Moving on.

Grab a chakra scalpel? It's going to cut off Obito's arm off if that happens.

That isn't true liquification, Kabuto only shed the outer layer of the skin.

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Kabuto's Sage reaction literally means that that chances of Obito laying a finger on him are pretty much nil. If he ever tries to warp him and solidifies Kabuto can easily react and counter, meaning Obito has to go intangible again. Pretty much makes this a fight over who outlasts who - which is anyone's guess. I suppose Kabuto can use dance of the seedling fern as an extra means of protection, not that he really needs it.

It's a 50/50 result.

I'd be inclined to mention Kage Bushin to aid Kabuto, but it was only really a part one feat.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Madara has the Mazou. Not only that, he also has two Rinnegan - meaning his control is greater.

I'm assuming both characters are at their peak here , so Obito should have the Mazo , doesn't matter , he still takes this Mid diff at most without it .

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh, but yes they are. See, Obito's kamui warp only take a touch. He had more than plenty time in those scans, even when guy's back was turned, to do some damage. Yet he could do nothing. But you want to lead people to believe he can touch an SM user, when he couldn't even touch a non-sensor who didn't begin to try.

Obito's Kamui warp taking a touch is irrelevant to the fact that comparing Gai stopping himself from getting warped in a brief skirmish can't be compared to trying to warp your opponent in a drawn out fight.

Not to mention Gai didn't get through that with his speed or his evasion skills, he got through that because he was able to use his weapons and Taijutsu to attack Obito whenever he tried to warp. Not the same as evading nor can you give this feat to Kabuto as his Taijutsu skills aren't on Gai's level.

Really, now? Because you just said, "speed doesn't matter because obito can kamui". I just showed his warping is useless to someone with speed or the ability to know where he is. Like

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, also. What, it suddenly holds no weight? That's is 2 scans so far showing he couldn't surprise kamui people who didn't have the ability to do

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, or

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. For safe measure, i'll even throw in

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fodder.

No, you didn't. You posted a scan of Naruto escaping once, and Gai doing something completely different. All in brief skirmishes. Except this isn't a brief skirmish, nor does escaping it once mean you will escape it the whole match.

-Naruto was about to be caught right there in that scan you posted, but he was saved again. [

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] Kakashi also warned him about Obito coming from above in the first scan of Naruto evading Obito you posted.

-Knowing where he is doesn't mean you won't get touched by him. The only way that would even be valid point here is if I was saying Kabuto would get surprise warped away, except I never said that he would. Kamui warping only stops Kabuto from breaking away from Obito. Nothing more.

-Naruto escaping Kamui once doesn't mean he won't get caught by Obito 100% of the time, same goes for Gai. I don't know how hard it is to understand that.

Your scan of Fu isn't helping you. He was going to get warped had Torune not saved him. It also doesn't help one bit that Obito didn't even try to warp him as the scan clearly shows, it shows him about to punch Fu.

If I used your logic, Torune and Fu would have never gotten warped since they showed the capability to stop themselves from being warped just once..but look what happened to them in the end. Despite stopping Kamui once, they still got warped away.

I've made my point clear. Your only argument by this point is "kamui... just because". No reasoning for how he bypasses sensing, liquification, oral rebirth, counter attacking when obito tries to solidify so he can't grab or all those other things that make grabbing impossible. How about you make a legitimate argument for any of those. Or, tell us how obito's doing any of that while he's an immobilized vegetable inside sound gen.

-Liquefying isn't going to help him, already showed how.

-Lol? Oral Rebirth? Kabuto using Oral Rebirth doesn't prevent him from being grabbed, he is coming out at the same spot Obito is still at. There is little point of doing this.

-Counter attacking when he tries to solidify? I've already responded to that too, why don't you go read cause I'm not going to repeat myself. In fact I shouldn't have to anyway has two scans have been posted (one by me and one by you) showing what would happen if Obito tries that. Fu tried the same thing, would have gotten warped if Torune didn't force Obito to go tangible. Minato did the same thing as well, would have gotten warped but he can teleport, unlike Kabuto.

-Sound Genjutsu is going to hit Obito while he's intangible?

Oh wait, its not going to. Unless his sound is magically going to reach him while in the other dimension.

Your evidence for him stopping Obito from touching him 100% of the time are terrible examples from others.

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

I'm assuming both characters are at their peak here , so Obito should have the Mazo , doesn't matter , he still takes this Mid diff at most without it .

Then Kabuto gets his ET, making this a stomp.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This battle can go either way, assuming ET and Obito's Jin's are restricted.

Obito's Ghost Mode is nearly a pain in the ass. But the trick of dealing with it, is waiting.

This is the same case as when Guy tried to attempt[

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]. Kabuto as increase his Hand-to-Hand due to mastering Senjutsu, plus his snakes can support his striking, for counteracting[

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]. So even in a case, touching Kabuto will also be a pain in the ass..

They are two methods when dealing with being touched, and about to get absorbed:

1. Sakon's assassination tech. This jutsu can work so fast, the opponent wouldn't even realize what happen, once slip through your body[

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]. The moment Obito touches him, he can release Sakon from his body, unexpectedly, and have his stomach snake strike so Obito won't finish taking him in.

2. Tayuya's summons and genjutsu. People think Tayuya can't play for 5 minutes, lol. All she does it play the damn flute. Anyway with her summon, she can use strictly her Ghost Move, for them. While she can switch the melody back-n-forth to Genjutsu and manipulating the ghost. This premise basically destroys any attempt of outlasting the Sound Genjutsu. As if Obito "does", the melody can change to Ghost manipulations. Hiding underground will be useless because the Ghost can move underground too. Kabuto sensing/perceptual ability will make the ghost nearly inescapable. So hiding is useless, they will stay on Ghost Obito until he materializes. If he somehow escape that, the Genjutsu will be ready to play, getting engulfed on that too.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara has the Mazou. Not only that, he also has two Rinnegan - meaning his control is greater.



:l

Then Kabuto uses it again...lol.

Really now? You are telling Kabuto will keep on using a technique that he knows won't work? Lets be serious here.

Grab a chakra scalpel? It's going to cut off Obito's arm off if that happens.

He obviously isn't going to grab the scalpel itself. Did he grab Minato's Kunai? No, he didn't. He grabbed his arm.

That isn't true liquification, Kabuto only shed the outer layer of the skin.

That's all he can do. Unless you some kind of scan proving otherwise, then that will remain as all he can do.

Kabuto's Sage reaction literally means that that chances of Obito laying a finger on him are pretty much nil. If he ever tries to warp him and solidifies Kabuto can easily react and counter, meaning Obito has to go intangible again. Pretty much makes this a fight over who outlasts who - which is anyone's guess. I suppose Kabuto can use dance of the seedling fern as an extra means of protection, not that he really needs it.

You only repeated the same thing you repeated up above. Kabuto will counter attack to make him go tangible even though there are now two scans on this thread that shows people who have tried the same thing only to end up almost getting warped.

-Kabuto breaking away from Obito is never happening since he can appear anywhere he wants on the battlefield, so this will be a close range battle the whole time.

-If he attacks Obito, he phases through it and makes his counter attack and warps him away just like what would have happened to the other two people who tried this.

Obito even has Uchiha Kaenjin to briefly box Kabuto in, giving him the time he needs to enter the barrier and warp him away.

It's a 50/50 result.

No.

 

[Latios]

Lol you guys act like he can spam all of these jutsus. He has a chakra limit

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

^Has one of the highest levels in the manga.

I'm only gonna concede on Uchiha Kaegin, kid gamer 69.

 

[Latios]

Then Kabuto gets his ET, making this a stomp.

The ET's aren't doing anything while obito is intangible

 

[KidGamer65]

^Has one of the highest levels in the manga.

I'm only gonna concede on Uchiha Kaegin, kid gamer 69.

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