I have used my friends old thread and revamped it (Look at the bottom)
This is only an analyzation on his part, but also a support thread on mine.
I am going to use his analyzation thread, to support my overall "Databook Prediction".
This is only an analyzation on his part, but also a support thread on mine.
I am going to use his analyzation thread, to support my overall "Databook Prediction".
Sharingan
Replication:
Prediction:
Another known aspect of the Sharingan is its aptitude of prevision. This statement by Haku says it all, while utilizing a jutsu such as this [
Now previous to all that, Sasuke was taking a royal beating until he acquired his 3 tomoe. As you can see, the sharingan can compensate even for vast and apparent speed differences; to the point where the opponent's speed becomes a non-factor. I'm sure you recognize the potential when this particular sharingan faculty is supplemented with a superior speed; let alone shunsin no jutsu.
As I stated earlier:
It can even copy subtle movements of the pencil [
Almost all battles requires the use of hand movements.
Replication:
As we all know, the Sharingan can duplicate abilities as long as they aren't inherent or derived from the users own innate ability.
Kakashi, who is well adept at using the Sharingan, yet not in the same tier as Itachi, is able to copy jutsu while contemporaneously performing it [
Sasuke further elaborated the depth of this feat [
In most cases, a visual of the jutsu is a prerequisite to learning it (obviously not if you're making your own jutsu from scratch). This speaks volumes of the Sharingan's insight. Itachi, with his incredible hand-speed and advanced sharingan would be a problem for any water or fire style user who is not Uchiha themselves.*
Kakashi, who is well adept at using the Sharingan, yet not in the same tier as Itachi, is able to copy jutsu while contemporaneously performing it [
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Sasuke further elaborated the depth of this feat [
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In most cases, a visual of the jutsu is a prerequisite to learning it (obviously not if you're making your own jutsu from scratch). This speaks volumes of the Sharingan's insight. Itachi, with his incredible hand-speed and advanced sharingan would be a problem for any water or fire style user who is not Uchiha themselves.*
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Prediction:
Another known aspect of the Sharingan is its aptitude of prevision. This statement by Haku says it all, while utilizing a jutsu such as this [
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].Mind you, Haku is no idiot. He is extremely intelligent. Even with that immense speed, he recognizes the danger of the Sharingan's precognition abilities. In case you missed it, I'm referring to his statement about attacking Sasuke head on. Kishi gives us a visualization later on [
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]. In the next page, following 'J', Naruto tries to sneak up on him from behind [
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]. Remember, this is kyuubi enhanced Naruto. This next page showcased Kyuubi Cloak Naruto once again attacking Sasuke from BEHIND. [
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]. While not as effortlessly as before, Sasuke holds his own against a Naruto that is way beyond base speed.Now previous to all that, Sasuke was taking a royal beating until he acquired his 3 tomoe. As you can see, the sharingan can compensate even for vast and apparent speed differences; to the point where the opponent's speed becomes a non-factor. I'm sure you recognize the potential when this particular sharingan faculty is supplemented with a superior speed; let alone shunsin no jutsu.
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As I stated earlier:
It's actually more extensive. Executing any jutsu that requires hand-signs while Itachi is watching is not a smart move. A sage, who was capable of sensing and dodging Amaterasu fail prey to Itachi's precognition [
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]. Obviously, the user is at a mobile disadvantage when building up chakra, weaving hand signs, etc. That's the thing most don't realize, the precognition can be utilized in more ways than one. Most just think in terms of taijutsu. In battle, all one needs is to find an opening. It doesn't matter if you're touching each other noses, or several feet apart. As you can see in page 'N', Kabuto was a good distance, yet Itachi weaved the hand signs and executed the technique before Kabuto could exit his jutsu.It can even copy subtle movements of the pencil [
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Sharingan
Genjutsu
On to the next one.
This technique is broken. First, let me say this, since a lot seem to ignore it, no where in the manga does it say that one can FEEL their chakra being controlled. It doesn't exist. The only way is through visual perception; or a collapse in reality. All throughout the manga, this is the only way someone realized they were in a genjutsu, unless they possessed a Sharingan; the insight is remarkable. This renders any level of skill to break out of it useless; if the caster choose not to make it obvious. How would they know? Even Kabuto, who is a GENIUS, didn't realize he was in a genjutsu until reality became contorted.
Now of course, eye contact is required. However, this only means getting close to a Sharingan user. Refer to page 'F'. This is what makes engaging an experienced Uchiha in a taijutsu fight frightening. For some reason, some think it's easy to avoid eye contact in a fight, which is definitely not true when your opponent is seeking to make eye contact with you. Not only can the opponent adjust position to gain eye contact, but you realize how hard it is not to change focus on a reflex?
No I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, I'm propagating the 'out of sight, out of mind' idiom. I think it's true in this case, we sometimes fail to see the bigger picture. A sudden or suspicious movement can attract the eyes, involuntarily. And as I said, there's always the option of the sharingan user forcefully making eye contact by movement of their head, body, etc.
This should provide some extra clarity for the following pages [
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Now of course, eye contact is required. However, this only means getting close to a Sharingan user. Refer to page 'F'. This is what makes engaging an experienced Uchiha in a taijutsu fight frightening. For some reason, some think it's easy to avoid eye contact in a fight, which is definitely not true when your opponent is seeking to make eye contact with you. Not only can the opponent adjust position to gain eye contact, but you realize how hard it is not to change focus on a reflex?
Reflex - Noun
1 - An action that is performed as a response to a stimulus and without conscious thought.
Adjective
1 - (Of an action) performed without conscious thought as an automatic response to a stimulus.
1 - An action that is performed as a response to a stimulus and without conscious thought.
Adjective
1 - (Of an action) performed without conscious thought as an automatic response to a stimulus.
No I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, I'm propagating the 'out of sight, out of mind' idiom. I think it's true in this case, we sometimes fail to see the bigger picture. A sudden or suspicious movement can attract the eyes, involuntarily. And as I said, there's always the option of the sharingan user forcefully making eye contact by movement of their head, body, etc.
This should provide some extra clarity for the following pages [
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]. After stating how difficult it would be to fight an Uchiha without looking in the eyes, Chiyo goes on to state, "If it's one on one, surely flee." Yes, I know there are monsters out there that are capable of changing the terrain who can fight an Uchiha one on one. I'm merely making a point that a lot of people seem to miss.On to the next one.
Genjutsu
Seeing through the Kagebunshin
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While it's true that the sharingan cannot tell a clone apart, there is indeed a way. Thanks to Tobirama's explanation [
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We've seen what Itachi can do with kunai while falling upside down [
"The greatest benefit of this jutsu is that the process of taking out a ninja tool, taking a stance and putting it into action is sped up to the extreme."
"Ninja tools are deployed at truly lightning speeds that literally take the air out of an adversary's sails and allow the caster to take the initiative in battle."
Here's the fight [
This may be more of a display of strength than anything, but I figured I'd put it in here anyway [
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]. If that isn't a great display of the fortitude of his focus, precision, and skill then I don't know what is. Most people are more likely to stab themselves in the foot while trying to throw a sharp object while falling, let alone hit a target that's hiding behind a boulder; on the bulls-eyes. Another notable feat of his is what he did to Nagato's summons [
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"The greatest benefit of this jutsu is that the process of taking out a ninja tool, taking a stance and putting it into action is sped up to the extreme."
"Ninja tools are deployed at truly lightning speeds that literally take the air out of an adversary's sails and allow the caster to take the initiative in battle."
Here's the fight [
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]. Sasuke is no slow poke, yet even with the advantage he had in that situation, Itachi not only matches him; but manages to make a handsign for a clone. So wait, not only would opponents have to be mindful of their blind spots, watch the trajectory of deflected kunai, but also have to keep up with with the sheer SPEED that Itachi is able to deploy his ninja tools while watching Itachi AND any clone he might make in the process? That's insane! Let me reiterate; Sasuke had the advantage. It's well within reason to assume any person even a bit slower and or skillful (it's not just about speed, it's also about skill) would have been killed. Furthermore, Sasuke is the only user of that technique, others would have to take the stance, and put it into action the way we are accustomed to.This may be more of a display of strength than anything, but I figured I'd put it in here anyway [
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Itachi's Genjutsu Prowess
Basic Genjutsu
Basic Genjutsu
- Ephemeral
I'll start off with what is commonly referred to as Ephemeral. It requires no eye contact; simply the point of a finger [You must be registered for see links]. The user is then, put into a genjutsu. However, there's something interesting happening here, in Naruto's teammates dialogue [You must be registered for see links] - [You must be registered for see links] - [You must be registered for see links]. Notice their words, those are thoughts that should only be known to Naruto. There are two possibilities: Itachi was able to dig deep into his thoughts/experiences, or it's a genjutsu that manifest one's guilt independent of the caster.
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], then he could most likely get the rundown on an opponent's techniques. Remember, this only requires the point of a finger. Then there's the possibility that this guilt manifested on its own, which could definitely hamper one's fighting spirit, or at the very least make for a convenient distraction. We've seen it multiple times. With Kakashi [
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] Now one could say there's a difference, the person under the spell would know know that they're being duped. However, one could also argue that seeing the faces and hearing the words of loved ones is more damaging that critique coming from the mouths of recognized enemies. - Dusk Crow Genjutsu
Then there's his Dusk Crow Genjutsu, which requires no handsigns nor a point of the finger. Despite Naruto's caution [You must be registered for see links] - [You must be registered for see links], he still fell prey to the genjutsu [You must be registered for see links] - [You must be registered for see links]. Obviously, the aforementioned and all makes CQC with Itachi very dangerous. After getting caught in a genjutsu, it would only take him a couple seconds at most to kill you.
- Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique
It requires eye contact, and while the opponent would obviously know they're in a genjutsu due to restricted movement, performing the seal to cancel it would take time due to the paralysis illusion [You must be registered for see links].
- Tsukyomi
Seriously, the Tsukyomi is mentioned and discussed so much that I won't even go into detail about it. I'll just leave this here [You must be registered for see links].
Itachi's Genjutsu Prowess
Itachi's Clone Techniques
Itachi's crow clone technique seems to have an edge over the regular kage bunshin technique. In the case of the standard Kage Bunshin, it's blatantly obvious that the user created clones; they appear next to the user [
Compared to Itachi's crow clone genjutsu; it can spring up out of nowhere, even with no signs of smoke [
- Crow Clone Technique.
This technique uses crows as a medium, which results in a clutter of crows when hit and dispersed; blocking the opponent's vision. Itachi was even able to get the jump on Kabuto [You must be registered for see links] - [You must be registered for see links]-, a sensor with enhanced speed due to SM. Granted, he still managed to dodge, but he also evaded susano'o arrows and amaterasu more successfully.
Itachi's crow clone technique seems to have an edge over the regular kage bunshin technique. In the case of the standard Kage Bunshin, it's blatantly obvious that the user created clones; they appear next to the user [
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]. And as you can see in the last page, they also requite lots of chakra. Even Tobirama with his monstrous could only create two.Compared to Itachi's crow clone genjutsu; it can spring up out of nowhere, even with no signs of smoke [
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This one is very effective, it signals the end if the opponent is caught in its explosion [You must be registered for see links]. Even this clone managed to go undetected and get behind Kakashi [You must be registered for see links]; compare to the kage bunshin.
Itachi's Clone Techniques
Amaterasu
Also keep in mind he used the Tsukyomi earlier, as well as a few other jutsu.
People always say that Itachi can only use 2-3 Amaterasu. What is often overlooked, is the amount of Amaterasu Itachi used in his fight with Sasuke. He managed to engulf half of the forest surrounding the building [
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Also keep in mind he used the Tsukyomi earlier, as well as a few other jutsu.
Amaterasu
Susano'o
Susano'o is a materialization of the users chakra, but how can it materialize if the user has little to no chakra left? Itachi, while he was near death, managed to manifest his Susano's complete form. Not to mention, his body was very weak at that time; due to the disease. This actually speaks volumes of Itachi's chakra control/levels; especially since most brush him off as a guy who can't hold out for very long. Yet, he was able to materiliaze his chakra on this level [
Susano'o users can even partially manifest susano'o; presenting simple ribs for protection [
He is also able to go on the offense/defense with Susano'o very fast. No Susano'o [
Susano'o is a materialization of the users chakra, but how can it materialize if the user has little to no chakra left? Itachi, while he was near death, managed to manifest his Susano's complete form. Not to mention, his body was very weak at that time; due to the disease. This actually speaks volumes of Itachi's chakra control/levels; especially since most brush him off as a guy who can't hold out for very long. Yet, he was able to materiliaze his chakra on this level [
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] after performing very chakra-taxing jutsu and even outlasted Sasuke. Susano'o users can even partially manifest susano'o; presenting simple ribs for protection [
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He is also able to go on the offense/defense with Susano'o very fast. No Susano'o [
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Itachi's Speed
I'm not going to get much into this. I mean the guy has a 5 in the databooks and was able to keep up with Bee and Naruto effortlessly [
As for his handsigns speed, this [
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As for his handsigns speed, this [
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Itachi's full extent of taijutsu was never shown, but there has been 2 very brief cases where it was slightly used. [
Now I know what you might say:
"What does Sharingan having to do with taijutsu"
It is first seen in Part I when Sasuke activates his 3 tomoe Sharingan [
It is officially stated that Sharingan (3 tomoe) users are able to see up to probably the speed of a 4th tail Naruto (Might be wrong), but there is evidence. Now does this automatically make them pro's like Rock Lee and Guy? No, but they can get better.
A perfect example is Madara. [
Itachi's full extent of taijutsu was never shown, but there has been 2 very brief cases where it was slightly used. [
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] (If you look at the full Anime fight, you'll see it more detailed and prolonged)Though it is foreshadowed that he must have been good at taijutsu for 1. Being ranked Anbu Captain at the age of 13 (They must have been extensively trained in that specific category for saving chakra and/or any situation to go wrong) 2. Having Sharingan
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Now I know what you might say:
"What does Sharingan having to do with taijutsu"
It is first seen in Part I when Sasuke activates his 3 tomoe Sharingan [
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]It is officially stated that Sharingan (3 tomoe) users are able to see up to probably the speed of a 4th tail Naruto (Might be wrong), but there is evidence. Now does this automatically make them pro's like Rock Lee and Guy? No, but they can get better.
A perfect example is Madara. [
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The Power In A Name
Also, with no knowledge of Itachi but his history with the Leaf Village, opponents will NOT start off using large scale techniques. How would they know he has a disease? Actually, because of his clan, they would probably assume he has above average chakra level; certainly more than they do. So, they would try to preserve as much chakra as possible, if they're smart. This works in Itachi's favor; because he could finish them off before they bring out the big guns. Also, with his Sharingan, he could see how much chakra they have remaining; which is key to outlasting them.
Databook Score
Total: 35-38
| Ninjutsu | 5 |
| Taijutsu | 4 |
| Genjutsu | 5 |
| Intelligence | 5 |
| Strength | 4-5 |
| Speed | 4-5 |
| Stamina | 3-4 |
| Hand Seals | 5 |
Databook Score
This is not intended to be a wank thread ..
*wank* *wank* *wank* *wank* ('-' ) jk ..
Couldn't have done it without Wall-E
99.99% of the text is his, but I added more to it
(About 2/3 paragraphs?) and made it all fancy looking.
Bish, would've been too lazy to do it himself
Rep,
99.99% of the text is his, but I added more to it
(About 2/3 paragraphs?) and made it all fancy looking.
Bish, would've been too lazy to do it himself
Rep,
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