Amaterasu: 100% Useless Against Any Competent Shinobi

Gdamon · Mar 11, 2014

Crystal Chakra said:
Amaterasu doesn't even live up to its hype as being that hot; pakura's scortch style is shown to be much hotter

pretty sure Pakura's technique takes all the water out your body by going inside you...

while Amaterasu is just a small sun that affects your from the outside...

Bieber · Mar 11, 2014

Meh, it's not really overrated anymore, but you will piss off a couple of members.

-Spoiler- · Mar 11, 2014

Gdamon said:
pretty sure Pakura's technique takes all the water out your body by going inside you...

while Amaterasu is just a small sun that affects your from the outside...

That just one of the techniques that evaporate the liquids.

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Blitz3d · Mar 11, 2014

Can someone answer my question about Kaiten/Rotation? Please? Ima Plus rep whoever does

Made in Heaven · Mar 11, 2014

Amaterasu has seriously lost it's hype as being an OP attack. It was at one point stated to be as hot as the sun (obviously not literally).

Here's Amaterasu being used on someone.

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ANd yet they make it out alive without any major damage. In fact, the only thing Amaterasu has killed was a group of Zetsus.

Now compare to Pakura's storch style

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Total annihilation. Those shinobi had their bodies go completely dry from the heat.

Clearly, at this point, amaterasu has become nothing more than a flame that can't be put out. It doesn't even seem that hot. It's never shown burning or heating things up.

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If the fire really was that hot, shouldn't it be heating and evaporating that lake? But it doesn't.

Scortch Style is hotter than Amaterasu

Mad Daz · Mar 11, 2014

The manga seems to suggest that a thin layer of cloth is enough to hold ameratsu off long enough to get it off of you >.<

Logically thats impossible if its as hot as its hyped to be, but seems to be the case regardless.

foxyladyland · Mar 11, 2014

Blitz3d said:
Can someone answer my question about Kaiten/Rotation? Please? Ima Plus rep whoever does

the air palm could blow it back , but the palm rotation isn't good enough to stop the flames from burning the hyuga's arms & hands

Blitz3d · Mar 11, 2014

Crystal Chakra said:
Amaterasu has seriously lost it's hype as being an OP attack. It was at one point stated to be as hot as the sun (obviously not literally).

Here's Amaterasu being used on someone.

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ANd yet they make it out alive without any major damage. In fact, the only thing Amaterasu has killed was a group of Zetsus.

Now compare to Pakura's storch style

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Total annihilation. Those shinobi had their bodies go completely dry from the heat.

Clearly, at this point, amaterasu has become nothing more than a flame that can't be put out. It doesn't even seem that hot. It's never shown burning or heating things up.

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If the fire really was that hot, shouldn't it be heating and evaporating that lake? But it doesn't.

Scortch Style is hotter than Amaterasu

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Valhorus · Mar 11, 2014

If u got speed , good reflexes it is useless . Not to mention even if u are good sensor u can avoid it easily.

Made in Heaven · Mar 11, 2014

Heavenly Rotation, which works in a similar fashion to Almighty Push, would be capable of stopping Amaterasu or other fire jutsus. It's not clear exactly how Amaterasu behaves. It has been depicted numerous times behaving as both a projectile and a 'manifest' type attack. Further - It is not clear what can or cannot stop it. However, going by the fact that Ay was able to dodge it, this shows it's a projectile.

The Byakugan grants it's user the ability to read and detect it's surroundings much faster than a regular eye, which would make it much easier to spot Amaterasu or Blaze release techniques coming. Heavenly Rotation forms a high-speed dome of chakra around the user, and protects them from all angles.

It is also not clear what insights the Byakugan may be able to provide in regards to the structure of Amaterasu, which may allow them to manipulate it far more readily than others who lack such abilities (as the Byakugan provides far more insight than the Sharingan). Even seeing the buildup of chakra in the eye could be enough for them to devise a way to counter.

Neji is capable of seeing Deidara's chakra build up here.

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As well as Kidomaru's.

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And here is what Nagato says when Itachi is about to use Amaterasu.

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Nagato' statement "This pressure!" Seems to indicate that there is chakra being built up behind the eye, so it's not much of a stretch to say that the Byakugan could very well see the attack incoming. This ability basically allows for them to see what attck their opponent is about to use and plan their counter against it, as all nin & genjutsu requires chakra to perform.

Blitz3d · Mar 11, 2014

Crystal Chakra said:
Heavenly Rotation, which works in a similar fashion to Almighty Push, would be capable of stopping Amaterasu or other fire jutsus. It's not clear exactly how Amaterasu behaves. It has been depicted numerous times behaving as both a projectile and a 'manifest' type attack. Further - It is not clear what can or cannot stop it. However, going by the fact that Ay was able to dodge it, this shows it's a projectile.

The Byakugan grants it's user the ability to read and detect it's surroundings much faster than a regular eye, which would make it much easier to spot Amaterasu or Blaze release techniques coming. Heavenly Rotation forms a high-speed dome of chakra around the user, and protects them from all angles.

It is also not clear what insights the Byakugan may be able to provide in regards to the structure of Amaterasu, which may allow them to manipulate it far more readily than others who lack such abilities (as the Byakugan provides far more insight than the Sharingan). Even seeing the buildup of chakra in the eye could be enough for them to devise a way to counter.

Neji is capable of seeing Deidara's chakra build up here.

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As well as Kidomaru's.

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And here is what Nagato says when Itachi is about to use Amaterasu.

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Nagato' statement "This pressure!" Seems to indicate that there is chakra being built up behind the eye, so it's not much of a stretch to say that the Byakugan could very well see the attack incoming. This ability basically allows for them to see what attck their opponent is about to use and plan their counter against it, as all nin & genjutsu requires chakra to perform.

Thank you for speaking my mind

Lucidus · Mar 11, 2014

no the jutsu itself is one of the most deadly in the entire manga.. it had the hype of being able to burn hotter than a thousand suns or something like that..

however any decent sensory ninja should not get hit by it .. people on A's speed caliber can dodge before it manifests completely.. however since substitution is never used anymore most ninja would die if hit by it.. at the very least they would lose a limb since if they do not amatersu spreads so they have to cut it off..

there are not a lot of people that have been shown to be able to move at incredible speeds either.. however if the ninja is swiftly moving around trying to catch them would be a problem..

this jutsu is a great initiator that is pretty much it..

it deffinetly not useless

Gdamon · Mar 11, 2014

Crystal Chakra said:
Heavenly Rotation, which works in a similar fashion to Almighty Push, would be capable of stopping Amaterasu or other fire jutsus. It's not clear exactly how Amaterasu behaves. It has been depicted numerous times behaving as both a projectile and a 'manifest' type attack. Further - It is not clear what can or cannot stop it. However, going by the fact that Ay was able to dodge it, this shows it's a projectile.

The Byakugan grants it's user the ability to read and detect it's surroundings much faster than a regular eye, which would make it much easier to spot Amaterasu or Blaze release techniques coming. Heavenly Rotation forms a high-speed dome of chakra around the user, and protects them from all angles.

It is also not clear what insights the Byakugan may be able to provide in regards to the structure of Amaterasu, which may allow them to manipulate it far more readily than others who lack such abilities (as the Byakugan provides far more insight than the Sharingan). Even seeing the buildup of chakra in the eye could be enough for them to devise a way to counter.

Neji is capable of seeing Deidara's chakra build up here.

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As well as Kidomaru's.

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And here is what Nagato says when Itachi is about to use Amaterasu.

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Nagato' statement "This pressure!" Seems to indicate that there is chakra being built up behind the eye, so it's not much of a stretch to say that the Byakugan could very well see the attack incoming. This ability basically allows for them to see what attck their opponent is about to use and plan their counter against it, as all nin & genjutsu requires chakra to perform.

nice research, you should make threads about this...

SIR UZMAKIMADARA · Mar 11, 2014

~Sky~ said:
Amaterasu's gotten Danzo, Zetsu Clones, Juubi clones, and Samurai. Not a great resumé.

this ^

OT:-Amaterasu is overrated like hell but Sasuke with PS and enton is good

phantomlord22 · Mar 11, 2014

nagato also could sense that itachi is going to use amaterasu or something, because of the chakra thing in the eye, but it KA, any way, sensory type ninja may figure it out
but even If they know, it's really really hard to counter or avoid amaterasu

Optimistic · Mar 11, 2014

Gdamon said:
nice research, you should make threads about this...

draegod already did lel.

Made in Heaven · Mar 11, 2014

Gdamon said:
nice research, you should make threads about this...

Lol this is actually a part taken out of a bigger thread i made in the past: " how a Byakugan user can fight on par with an MS user"

SIR UZMAKIMADARA · Mar 11, 2014

Crystal Chakra said:
Heavenly Rotation, which works in a similar fashion to Almighty Push, would be capable of stopping Amaterasu or other fire jutsus. It's not clear exactly how Amaterasu behaves. It has been depicted numerous times behaving as both a projectile and a 'manifest' type attack. Further - It is not clear what can or cannot stop it. However, going by the fact that Ay was able to dodge it, this shows it's a projectile.

The Byakugan grants it's user the ability to read and detect it's surroundings much faster than a regular eye, which would make it much easier to spot Amaterasu or Blaze release techniques coming. Heavenly Rotation forms a high-speed dome of chakra around the user, and protects them from all angles.

It is also not clear what insights the Byakugan may be able to provide in regards to the structure of Amaterasu, which may allow them to manipulate it far more readily than others who lack such abilities (as the Byakugan provides far more insight than the Sharingan). Even seeing the buildup of chakra in the eye could be enough for them to devise a way to counter.

Neji is capable of seeing Deidara's chakra build up here.

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As well as Kidomaru's.

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And here is what Nagato says when Itachi is about to use Amaterasu.

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Nagato' statement "This pressure!" Seems to indicate that there is chakra being built up behind the eye, so it's not much of a stretch to say that the Byakugan could very well see the attack incoming. This ability basically allows for them to see what attck their opponent is about to use and plan their counter against it, as all nin & genjutsu requires chakra to perform.

You....You are 100% correct
You never cease to amaze me U_U

Made in Heaven · Mar 11, 2014

UZMAKIMADARA said:
You....You are 100% correct
You never cease to amaze me U_U

haha (^_^) thank you

shelke · Mar 11, 2014

Lol What a ridiculous thread. That Madara scan was a gem. Clearly all characters have the luxury of ninjutsu absorption. Nagato - had he been alive - would look like that, dead underneath the flames. Katien countering Amaterasu ... My goodness.

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