Character weak points no longer apply in the manga

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lol i hope your trolling
kakashi chakra <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<tailed beast
....naruto fought Kurama, ay, 3rd raikage, madara, 7 jinchuriki, 7 tailed beasts, obito, madara again, jubi, jubi obito, mini jubi army, god tree, jubi madara and gave out his chackra to the entire alliance..........naruto fought harder than kakashi
 

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I was just rereading part 1 of the manga. Kakashi was exhausted after using his BASE sharingan against Zabuza for 5 minutes. At the bridge, he was exhausted after using sharingan and 1 Raikiri, and didn't have enough chakra to make solid clones. How things have changed.
Just think if he still had those stamina levels in this war lol. Kishi would have had to be a lil more creative if so, insted of every problem being answered by kamui. That ability is to damn useful if stamina is no longer an issue.
 

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It's just plot and retcon. It was obvious from the very beginning of the obito fight when he was spamming kamui before ever getting kyuubi chakra...

If it make sense to you that Kakashi could use upward of 3 raikiri and kamui, after fighting 7 swordsmen(and using 1 to 2 raikiri) then of course the rest will make sense to you...

Kakashi no longer suffers from;
- sharingan incompatibility
- Kamui strain
- MS blindness
- 3/4 a day raikiri limit
- low stamina
- Injury (being slashed by zabuza, stabbed by obito, rasengan to the stomach - all of which he never got a medic to heal up)

Even his clothes now automatically repair themselves.
 
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So, just becaues kishi forgot about kakashi's poor stamina- everybodies weak points no longer applies?

Sure, it sucks that kishi decided to make kakashi a chakra beast all of a sudden- what happened to kakashi having 1/100 the chakra of naruto + kuruma?, 4 or 5 raikiri a day etc... kakashi used kamui 2x against pain and he died because of chakra loss. Mabey after being revived he gained more chakra???

Personally, I think his stamina plothole is easier to ignore if you beleive that he somehow trained himself to get amazing chakra control and mastered kamui ( of screen lol) to the point that it takes barely any chakra to use- and for the blindness part- who says kakashi isnot blind in his sharingan eye. Blindness doesnot mean losing your mangekyo ability.- it means you cant see, kakashi has another regular eye that can see just fine.
 

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It's just plot and retcon. It was obvious from the very beginning of the obito fight when he was spamming kamui before ever getting kyuubi chakra...

If it make sense to you that Kakashi could use upward of 3 raikiri and kamui, after fighting 7 swordsmen(and using 1 to 2 raikiri) then of course the rest will make sense to you...

Kakashi no longer suffers from;
- sharingan incompatibility
- Kamui strain
- MS blindness
- 3/4 a day raikiri limit
- low stamina
- Injury (being slashed by zabuza, stabbed by obito, rasengan to the stomach - all of which he never got a medic to heal up)

Even his clothes now automatically repair themselves.
Dat kakashi. But in all honesty the 4 raikiri a day limit was part 1 one not part 2, he used 5-6 against the immortals.
He never suffered from ms blindness. He had ms for roughly 20 years. He should have been blind even b4 the first time he used it in part 2 since it deteriorates sight continuously once unlocking it.
He used raikiri a minimum of three times against swordsman. Then used it 4 times(variants included) against obito.
Stamina isn't a problem for him. Heck he's using ms more times than itachi, and he was like the strongest in the uchiha clan....
Dat kakashi.
 

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Dat kakashi. But in all honesty the 4 raikiri a day limit was part 1 one not part 2, he used 5-6 against the immortals.
He never suffered from ms blindness. He had ms for roughly 20 years. He should have been blind even b4 the first time he used it in part 2 since it deteriorates sight continuously once unlocking it.
He used raikiri a minimum of three times against swordsman. Then used it 4 times(variants included) against obito.
Stamina isn't a problem for him. Heck he's using ms more times than itachi, and he was like the strongest in the uchiha clan....
Dat kakashi.
he had raikiri for over 13 years. that's 13+ years of perfecting and he said his limit was 4. Sasuke had a limit of 2-3 after learning it after a few weeks. The difference between p1 an p2 is 3 years. It makes no logical sense that kakashi up his limit far more in 3 years than he could in 13+.

He only started using ms in p2. like 30 chapters later he hinted that he was experiencing the vision loss by stating to itachi something like "the MS comes with risks on your eyesight" or something. Sasuke used MS maybe 10 times and went completely blind. Kakashi's been using it far more than that so far and he's pretty good.

Your last point proves what i'm saying. He's using MS more than an uchiha, and his stamina is no longer a factor. That blatantly contradicts previous statements in the manga.

It's completely idiotic to believe that kakashi has improved more in a few months (pain invasion to now) than he's improved in 3 years(time skip) or over 20 years.
 

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he had raikiri for over 13 years. that's 13+ years of perfecting and he said his limit was 4. Sasuke had a limit of 2-3 after learning it after a few weeks. The difference between p1 an p2 is 3 years. It makes no logical sense that kakashi up his limit far more in 3 years than he could in 13+.

He only started using ms in p2. like 30 chapters later he hinted that he was experiencing the vision loss by stating to itachi something like "the MS comes with risks on your eyesight" or something. Sasuke used MS maybe 10 times and went completely blind. Kakashi's been using it far more than that so far and he's pretty good.

Your last point proves what i'm saying. He's using MS more than an uchiha, and his stamina is no longer a factor. That blatantly contradicts previous statements in the manga.

It's completely idiotic to believe that kakashi has improved more in a few months (pain invasion to now) than he's improved in 3 years(time skip) or over 20 years.
Even though he only started using it in part two him not using it doesn't mean his eyesight won't deteriorate.

Well when he started with chidori the limit was 2 or 3. Kakashi's in his prime now I guess?
Even though the strain is higher for him he seems to manage fine.

Ever since he died he got a new lease on life.
 

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Even though he only started using it in part two him not using it doesn't mean his eyesight won't deteriorate.

Well when he started with chidori the limit was 2 or 3. Kakashi's in his prime now I guess?
Even though the strain is higher for him he seems to manage fine.

Ever since he died he got a new lease on life.
Hmmm... Lmao yes that's right he was revived. Oh lawd everyone pain revived turned no weakness mode
 

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I know some may agree but most have not realized this.

Any one notice that Kakashi within the last 2 days have fought harder than Naruto and Gai?

7 Shinobi of Mist
Obito with Edo Jins
Tailed Beast
Madara and Obito
Riku Madara
God Tree -Kakashi wasn't there to do anything
Juubito - Kakashi arrived after he Juubito was beaten and weakened
I know some will say the KCM Chakra boosted his stamina but still his stamina is beyond tailed beast levels now which is BS lol
Actually not really, the anime showed that Kakashi had help from Gai, Sai and Lee amongst his group that he lead and it shows Kakashi resting along with the others while they waited for the enemy to return. Kakashi never fought the god tree or Juubito, he didn't arrive until Juubito was already down and defeated. Gai was with him for the top 4 choices and the last 2 Kakashi did nothing haha.

Naruto actually went from intense training with no breaks to splitting his power 1/13 with his 12 clones to fighting Itachi/Nagato with Bee, fighting Zetsus, fighting Muu and 3rd Raikage with help (his clone), to fighting Obito and Jinchuurikis with Bee/Gai/Kakashi to fighting 5 Bijuus alone at one point to fighting Madara and Obito with his group to fighting the Juubi and tanking it's laser to giving out his chakra to the alliance to protecting them from the Juubi/Madara's/Obito's attacks to fighting Juubito to give more chakra to the alliance with Minato to fighting again and he only took 2 breaks when Sakura healed him both times and he does feel a certain amount of his clones exhaustion as well.

Kakashi did spam Kamui though and I agree on that part but Kurama gave him chakra then he was healed by Sakura then Naruto gave him even more chakra which Kakashi didn't use all of since the cloak poofed after Obito warped him away to fight him and Sakura said the clone was still there for them but just diminished in size so current Kakashi probably using the chakra he got from Naruto right now.
 

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The fact that Kakashi is not blind at this point and is spamming kamui when the chakra he received from Naruto should have run out is an official plothole. The fact that he has this stamina doesn't make much sense. But then again, other characters have greater stamina than usual as well. In order to make anyone actually have an effect in this war against Madara, Kishimoto had to throw out the established limitations. After this war is over, things will likely go back to normal.
 
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