Gai's Feats: Impressive but....Still not Top 10

[Davy Jones]

Recently there have been a lot of people saying he is top 10 do to the feats of last chapter. I am here to say that is a sad misconception. In fact I will address those said feats first. So what feats did He accomplish in the first place?

Scans

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7th gate opening

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Initial attack.

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We see first gai opens the gates and surprises madara with his speed with the first two scans. In scan 2 he rushes him and shows off expert taijutsu. But here is where I noticed he was about to get pwned. There are only two impact marks. As fast as he is moving madara blocked the first movement, dodged the rest and blocked the last blow aswell.

Final Attack

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Though well defended by madara, Gai manages to surprise him again. (last panel scan 2). But the Hirudora was still countered by madara. Not only that but madara counter attacks and nearly kills Gai

Madara never left his feet the entire exchange, So what then did Gai accomplish?

-He forced madara to enter an defensive position.

-Managed to surprise madara with blinding speed.

Gai deserves credit given how powerful madara is, but can we then say he would defeat Raikage Ay because of these feats? This is the same Gai from the beginning of the war lets remember, would you have said Gai was top ten when EMS madara blocked his Hirudora with Susanoo? Because its not like he got an upgrade or new jutsu. Would you say he was top 10 after he used this jutsu on kisame and kisame manages to live? No. So why now say Hirudora can solo when it hit kisame directly and he didn’t die? Gai deserves all the credit for forcing Rikudo Madara to a defensive position, but he is not as powerful as the hype would lead everyone to believe. Gai is no more powerful than he was when he defeated Kisame. This is just my opinion. No disrespect intended. Share your opinion and discuss.

-Davy Jones

 

[Misconception]

I think that was obvious...

 

[Davy Jones]

I think that was obvious...

Ok well then I take it you agree

 

[Uchiha Marshmallow]

He's top 10 not as high as Sasuke though, but above nardoU_U.

 

[Draphsin]

You're right, his position hasnt changed.

 

[UCE]

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the 8 gate brother time to become a readbeast

 

[slaton02]

I been say Gai > Ay People just now realizing, It's like I'm way ahead of people. People that say he is top 10 account for 8th gate.
The moment he used Hirudora he surpassed Ay cause to do an attack like that shows your speed and strength.

Also realize Gai in 7 gates beat a guy like Kisame in 1 hit no diff(for 7 gate)

 

[Boston Rob]

Hes just getting screen time, top10 has nothing to do with him...........

 

[The8thGateBeast]

Kisame didn't die because of plot, if he died then the scroll would never have reached kabuto and the story wouldn't, but since he didnt die we got kisames back story and plot progression because kabuto got the scroll and went to the turtle island. Guy fighting madara put his powers in perspective.

 

[Davy Jones]

You're right, his position hasnt changed.

Yes I do believe this to be true. Its unclear as to why people would assume he got an upgrade.

He's top 10 not as high as Sasuke though, but above nardoU_U.

I disagree on the grounds i can name 10 shinobi who outclass him, but your opinion is respected non the less

 

[Avinash012]

I agree Guy is not top 10.

 

[slaton02]

Yes I do believe this to be true. Its unclear as to why people would assume he got an upgrade.



I disagre on the grounds i can name 10 shinobi who outclass him, but your opinion is respected non the less

Naming 10 shinobi that can beat someone does not mean they are not top cause that person that beats him could be beatin by 11 plus. I for one have gai top 15 and he's been there since the war started.

 

[Davy Jones]

I been say Gai > Ay People just now realizing, It's like I'm way ahead of people. People that say he is top 10 account for 8th gate.
The moment he used Hirudora he surpassed Ay cause to do an attack like that shows your speed and strength.

Also realize Gai in 7 gates beat a guy like Kisame in 1 hit no diff(for 7 gate)

I agree, he is impressive. like you said, he did beat kisame which i thought no one could have even done at that time but naruto, but he is not stronger than Ay. in my opinion Ay can produce massive levels of strength like that with nothing spent but chakra. Gai has to sacrifice health and is rendered nearly useless afterwards. The gates are also what builds him up but also are what brings gai down

Kisame didn't die because of plot, if he died then the scroll would never have reached kabuto and the story wouldn't, but since he didnt die we got kisames back story and plot progression because kabuto got the scroll and went to the turtle island. Guy fighting madara put his powers in perspective.

Lets not blame the plot now. kishimoto asspulls whatever he wants he could have gotten intel to kabuto. he is the author he could have figured something out. the point is kisame did not die and thats manga fact. Now if it could not kill kisame, its not killing Ay and if your not killing Ay, your probally not top 10. but yeah i noted because it was madara he pushed back it lets you know how strong he is, but at the end of the day, the gates are not reliable enough to make him top ten.

Naming 10 shinobi that can beat someone does not mean they are not top cause that person that beats him could be beatin by 11 plus. I for one have gai top 15 and he's been there since the war started.

No I said 10 who OUTCLASS him. it goes past simply defeating him. i meant 10 shinobi who are above him.

 

[The8thGateBeast]

I agree, he is impressive. like you said, he did beat kisame which i thought no one could have even done at that time but naruto, but he is not stronger than Ay. in my opinion Ay can produce massive levels of strength like that with nothing spent but chakra. Gai has to sacrifice health and is rendered nearly useless afterwards. The gates are also what builds him up but also are what brings gai down



Lets not blame the plot now. kishimoto asspulls whatever he wants he could have gotten intel to kabuto. he is the author he could have figured something out. the point it kisame did not die and thats manga fact. Now if it could not kill kisame, its not killing Ay and if your not killing Ay, your probally not top 10. but yeah i noted because it was madara he pushed back it lets you know how strong he is, but at the end of the day, the gates are not reliable enough to make him top ten.





No i said 10 who OUTCLASS him. it goes past simply defeating him. i meant 10 shinobi who are above him.

I agree that Guy is not top 10 but I still think he can solo the raikage I guess that's just a difference of opinion.

 

[Davy Jones]

I agree that Guy is not top 10 but I still think he can solo the raikage I guess that's just a difference of opinion.

I respect your opinion sir

 

[slaton02]

Iagree, he is impressive like you said, he did beat kisame which i thought no one could have even done at that time but naruto, but he is not stronger than Ay. in my opinion Ay can produce massive levels of strength like that with nothing spent but chakra. Gai has to sacrifice health and is rendered nearly useless afterwards. The gates are also what builds him up but also are what brings gai down



Lets not blame the plot now. kishimoto asspulls whatever he wants he could have gotten intel to kabuto. he is the author he could have figured something out. the point is kisame did not die and thats manga fact. Now if it could not kill kisame, its not killing Ay and if your not killing Ay, your probally not top 10. but yeah i noted because it was madara he pushed back it lets you know how strong he is, but at the end of the day, the gates are not reliable enough to make him top ten.




No I said 10 who OUTCLASS him. it goes past simply defeating him. i meant 10 shinobi who are above him.

I respect your opinion but I don't believe Ay can produce that amout of power.(btw not even Naruto could've beaten kisame at that time.GSb>anything naruto had.

 

[iSpyder]

Are you fools forgetting that Gai always has his hands tied by NOT using Ninjutsu and only using Taijutsu? He basically handicaps himself in his fights and still beats his opponents. He outranks everyone in NV in terms of speed and strength. Also, Madara having the Juubi Jin inside of him gives him a better advantage over Gai, its not even his own power. He has SM sensory to put him above others as well.. think about it.

If Madara never had the Juubi Jin inside of him and was only mortal.. Gai would've obliterated him with that Hirudora. Back when Madara was in EDO form, Gai still managed to blast Madara back and Madada had most of his strength back. Gai was injured at that point as well. Madara isn't even using his own abilities. So much for someone who claims the tailed beasts are nothing but masses of power and slaves to those with blessed eyes. This guy NEEDS help in his fights. Gai relies on his own abilities and decides NOT to use Ninjutsu. If that impressive feat doesn't make him Top 5-10 then you guys are just bias. Gai is too underrated in this forum that people fail to realise.

 

[Davy Jones]

Are you fools forgetting that Gai always has his hands tied by NOT using Ninjutsu and only using Taijutsu? He basically handicaps himself in his fights and still beats his opponents. He outranks everyone in NV in terms of speed and strength. Also, Madara having the Juubi Jin inside of him gives him a better advantage over Gai, its not even his own power. He has SM sensory to put him above others as well.. think about it.

If Madara never had the Juubi Jin inside of him and was only mortal.. Gai would've obliterated him with that Hirudora. Back when Madara was in EDO form, Gai still managed to blast Madara back and Madada had most of his strength back. Gai was injured at that point as well. Madara isn't even using his own abilities. So much for someone who claims the tailed beasts are nothing but masses of power and slaves to those with blessed eyes. This guy NEEDS help in his fights. Gai relies on his own abilities and decides NOT to use Ninjutsu. If that impressive feat doesn't make him Top 5-10 then you guys are just bias. Gai is too underrated in this forum that people fail to realise.

Not true. I give gai his credit. like i said he is very impressive, but still not good enough to be the top elite. he chooses not to use ninjutsu by the way which is his handicap to bare, not an excuse to be used by the masses as to why he should get praise. if he was not the juubi's jin he would have still survived hirudora due to hashirama's healing or susanoo. gai is an amazing and no one is underrating him, this is madara we are comparing him too so i can see why you think that, but all in all gai got deserved credit, you overrhyped him when you said he would obliterate madara if he was not juubi's jin. What does not make him top 10 is the fact he is just not that strong. he is strong but not top 10 strong. weather powers are stolen or not lets not make excuses. thats the real bias

 

[-Punk-]

Definitely not top 10 ....we'll see when he goes Red Mode , but it still comes with a prize ._.

 

[paratise]

He had always been top 20-25 for me, the rating did not change for me much other than 2-3 people.

It's just that he got better speed and taijutsu feats, till now when he used gates he just used specific techs, did not make an onslaught like he did last chapter.