Juubi jin has prophetic powers

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I believe that what we are seeing here is madara showing slight prophetic powers.
It could explain why he already knew gai and also knew about the red steam (in the real translation he said he (madara) would be under-estimatin gai if he expected the red gate)
I could be wrong but i choose to believe this as its cool and it is actually possible ^.^
 

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would be cool :)

but i think he just knows about the gates
 

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Possibly that would be awesome though him just knowing whos gonna kick his ass so he can kill them before they get strong.
 

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Possibly that would be awesome though him just knowing whos gonna kick his ass so he can kill them before they get strong.

it is debatable if we could actually change our future if we knew it :)

would be cool :)

but i think he just knows about the gates
he also mentioned he had seen gai before
 
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Nice theory. I like your way of thinking this.
 

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Are you forgetting that Gai hit Edo Madara with Hirodura? Madara remembers him from this moment.
 

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Are you forgetting that Gai hit Edo Madara with Hirodura? Madara remembers him from this moment.

But then, how does Madara know that "Red Steam" emerges when one activates the Eighth Gate? It means there must be a former 8th gate user or as the OP mentioned, he gained prophetic powers.
 

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But then, how does Madara know that "Red Steam" emerges when one activates the Eighth Gate? It means there must be a former 8th gate user or as the OP mentioned, he gained prophetic powers.

Gai could not of been the first to know about the eight gates. Madara has had his Zetsus in the ground for a long time. The intel they gathered could have potentially included information about the eight gates. It is likely that he aquired knoweledge on the subject at some point during his life. It's even possible that he himself is capable of opening gates.

I really don't believe that he has prophetic powers. For instance, when he planned on attacking both Obito and Kakashi at the same time. He didn't expect them to use kamui simultaneously. If he had prophetic powers then he would have known what would happen.
 

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But then, how does Madara know that "Red Steam" emerges when one activates the Eighth Gate? It means there must be a former 8th gate user or as the OP mentioned, he gained prophetic powers.

The Eight Inner Gates is a forbidden jutsu of Konoha. It was probably ranked that because of the amount of damage it gives the user after they end it. If its a forbidden jutsu, then that means that someone had to have used it in the past. Madara probably fought someone using all the Eighth Gate of Death right before Konoha was formed , right after it was or sometime after he left the village and prior to his fight with Hashirama.
 

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Gai could not of been the first to know about the eight gates. Madara has had his Zetsus in the ground for a long time. The intel they gathered could have potentially included information about the eight gates. It is likely that he aquired knoweledge on the subject at some point during his life. It's even possible that he himself is capable of opening gates.

I really don't believe that he has prophetic powers. For instance, when he planned on attacking both Obito and Kakashi at the same time. He didn't expect them to use kamui simultaneously. If he had prophetic powers then he would have known what would happen.

He is not a complete juubi jin and secondly you cant expect a prophet to foresee everything *mumbles something about toads*
 

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if Madara is seeing into the future so to speak

then so was Kakashi, Minato and Lee

basically everyone who knows about the 8 gates

It isn't hidden information, just extremely hard to do

if Gai was able to learn and Minato knew of them it makes sense it was attainable information in Konoha, meaning someone once before used it

and if it is powerful enough to ''threaten'' the Juubi jin, im sure Madara, [being a founder of Konoha], knew of it, [or even during pre konoha days]
 

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and if it is powerful enough to ''threaten'' the Juubi jin, im sure Madara, [being a founder of Konoha], knew of it, [or even during pre konoha days]

I doubt it poses much of a threat for Madara in general.
 

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if Madara is seeing into the future so to speak

then so was Kakashi, Minato and Lee

basically everyone who knows about the 8 gates

It isn't hidden information, just extremely hard to do

if Gai was able to learn and Minato knew of them it makes sense it was attainable information in Konoha, meaning someone once before used it

and if it is powerful enough to ''threaten'' the Juubi jin, im sure Madara, [being a founder of Konoha], knew of it, [or even during pre konoha days]

as i said, this theory is not watertight.. but you have to wonder: "i have seen you somewhere".. not "i have seen you before" and secondly the sage of six paths also had prophetic powers so why not madara? (it would be a watered down version as he is not a complete juubi jin)

I doubt it poses much of a threat for Madara in general.
first panel... stop fanboying or gtfo.
 
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as i said, this theory is not watertight.. but you have to wonder: "i have seen you somewhere".. not "i have seen you before" and secondly the sage of six paths also had prophetic powers so why not madara? (it would be a watered down version as he is not a complete juubi jin)

That may mean several things, Madara may think that Guy is Lee from before when he was kicked in half, or he may just have seen Guy on the battlefield prior and took notice in his power level.
 

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That may mean several things, Madara may think that Guy is Lee from before when he was kicked in half, or he may just have seen Guy on the battlefield prior and took notice in his power level.

Madara arrived just after Obito was unmasked and faced against BEE and GAI

his Sussaanoo got pushed back by Hirudora

the fact that Gai has a bad memory makes up his statement, Madara's statement can be attributed to the fact he hasn't directly faced gai since then
 

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as i said, this theory is not watertight.. but you have to wonder: "i have seen you somewhere".. not "i have seen you before" and secondly the sage of six paths also had prophetic powers so why not madara? (it would be a watered down version as he is not a complete juubi jin)


first panel... stop fanboying or gtfo.

First panel? You mean this: Because Kakashi is saying that about Madara.
 

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First panel? You mean this: Because Kakashi is saying that about Madara.

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Or maybye he just remembered the guy who punched him with a tiger, and knew about the 8th gate.
 

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well he did already fight him, so it was more of him just remembering. i think you are reading way to into his comment. but on the other hand the sage of the six paths did prophesize things, so that may be a juubi jin ability but not what madara was doing at that time.
 
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