Rikkudo Naruto won't be much weaker than Juubito

[saw2097]

So Naruto = Sasuke?

So you are saying that EMS Sasuke is weaker then BM Naruto and that without the Rinnegan Sasuke would get rolfstomped by 9 tails BM Naruto alone?

As for the Sasuke getting Sage Mode, tell me this is he also going to get the Rasengan.

Giving Sasuke Sage mode would be the equivalent of giving Naruto the Rinnegan, it takes away form the uniqueness of their characters.

Between Sage Mode and Mokuton, Sasuke is more likely to get Mokuton.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Wrong. He had 7 Bijuu sealed in the Gedo. He only used six since he had no compatible Jin for Shukaku. Where did him having 6 complete Bijuu come from anyway?

Wrong again. He has all the Bijuu, he is only missing half of Kurama, and Obito is only missing two Bijuu, but he became the Jin AFTER the Juubi regenerated to its original power. So he's irrelevant to your point. You don't need to have the complete chakra of a Bijuu to be its Jin, hence Naruto having half of Kurama. Having most of the Juubi isn't comparable to having most of it and then having it take in more power to get stronger at all. Just how having half of Kurama makes Naruto a Jin but having a piece of it doesn't make the Kin/Gin bros Jins.

1. Forgot about that.

2. By this logic, Naruto will progressively become a complete juubi jin.

 

[ANiMUS]

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I highly disagree for several reasons. 1 being that since the juubi is the source of all chakra, being a psuedo jinchuriki of it should give all elements. That and I find it a little hard to believe that orbs that happen to look like TBBs aren't going to belong to Naruto at one point. I thought it'd be awesome if Naruto had them from the start.


Anyway, glad you liked my joke.

Rinnengan allowe the manipulation of multiple elements. Without it I don't see it being possible

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Forgot about that.

2. By this logic, Naruto will progressively become a complete juubi jin.

He isn't forming the Juubi, so no, he won't. That only goes for the Juubi itself. If this were true, he would have begun this little transformation the moment he got all the Bijuu's chakra minus two of them. Pieces of the Bijuu's chakra clearly isn't enough to form the Juubi at all let alone in a weakened state.

 

[saw2097]

Rinnengan allowe the manipulation of multiple elements. Without it I don't see it being possible

Tell that to Hiruzen, he doesn't have any Kekkai Genkai as far as we know yet he can preform all five Nature transformations.

 

[ANiMUS]

Tell that to Hiruzen, he doesn't have any Kekkai Genkai as far as we know yet he can preform all five Nature transformations.

Rinnegan=1 body all elements
Hiruzen=multiple bodies 1 element each

 

[Sennin of Logic]

He isn't forming the Juubi, so no, he won't. That only goes for the Juubi itself. If this were true, he would have begun this little transformation the moment he got all the Bijuu's chakra minus two of them. Pieces of the Bijuu's chakra clearly isn't enough to form the Juubi at all let alone in a weakened state.

You've just backed yourself into a corner. There was no difference in the gedo statue other than the number of eyes and more power.

 

[saw2097]

Rinnegan=1 body all elements
Hiruzen=multiple bodies 1 element each

Those were just clones, something Naruto is known for using, and each clone divides the power up, Kakashi can use multiple elemental transformations without clones as can many other characters.

Characters are shown to use multiple elements all the time, many of them without Kekkai Genkai.

 

[ANiMUS]

Those were just clones, something Naruto is known for using, and each clone divides the power up, Kakashi can use multiple elemental transformations without clones as can many other characters.

Characters are shown to use multiple elements all the time, many of them without Kekkai Genkai.

Huh, oh well then you can.

 

[KidGamer65]

You've just backed yourself into a corner. There was no difference in the gedo statue other than the number of eyes and more power.

I'm wrong about one small detail, which is Naruto not beginning his transformation as I forgot all pieces of the Bijuu would be needed. Though that doesn't change the fact this only goes for the Juubi itself.

-No evidence supporting otherwise.

-They waited for the Juubi to get stronger before becoming the Jinchuuriki. Obito being the Jin of V1 Juubi isn't going to make him as strong as he was when he was the V2 Juubi's Jin.

 

[xcoyote]

Those who think that EOS Naruto wont be stronger than Juubito simply lack insight.

 

[Yahcob13]

I just hope he keeps the cloak. As long as he's got the glow there is hope.

 

[adeshina365]

The Sage's eyes were the Rinnegan, not the Older brother's eyes. You need both Senju and Uchiha DNA for such. So Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan while Naruto doesn't is creating a rift in this frivolous Yin-Yang complex.​

Not really. The Rinnegan is Yin + Yang, but so is the Juubi.

Sasuke represents Hagoromo prior to him being the Juubi's Jinchuriki, Naruto represents the Juubi.

 

[iNotorious]

Not really. The Rinnegan is Yin + Yang, but so is the Juubi.

Sasuke represents Hagoromo prior to him being the Juubi's Jinchuriki, Naruto represents the Juubi.

@Bold, What? @Underline, What?​

 

[adeshina365]

@Bold, What? @Underline, What?​

Power wise, yes.

Rikudo had the Rinnegan (like Sasuke will) prior to being the Juubi's Jinchuriki. Naruto is obtaining the power of the Juubi.

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[Sennin of Logic]

Power wise, yes.

Rikudo had the Rinnegan (like Sasuke will) prior to being the Juubi's Jinchuriki. Naruto is obtaining the power of the Juubi.

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I think the thing is that you got it backward in a certain light. Naruto represents the Sage. Although power wise, you're probably right.

 

[adeshina365]

I think the thing is that you got it backward in a certain light. Naruto represents the Sage. Although power wise, you're probably right.

That's what I'm referring to in this context. Naruto does represent the Sage when it comes to teachings though.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

That's what I'm referring to in this context. Naruto does represent the Sage when it comes to teachings though.

I think the fact that you didn't clarify this is what made Inotorious (and frankly me) have a misconception about your post. You might want to edit it since people tend to pick early posts to respond to.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Power wise, yes.

Rikudo had the Rinnegan (like Sasuke will) prior to being the Juubi's Jinchuriki. Naruto is obtaining the power of the Juubi.

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@Bold no evidence for that.... he could've awakened it as the juubi's Jin as far as we know..

 

[adeshina365]

I think the fact that you didn't clarify this is what made Inotorious (and frankly me) have a misconception about your post. You might want to edit it since people tend to pick early posts to respond to.

Meh.

The fact that I said "prior to him becoming the Juubi's Jinchuriki" should have made it clear enough.