Rikkudo Naruto won't be much weaker than Juubito

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Half of kurama does not equal 5 bijuu
Naruto had the psychical energy of kurama meaning his stamina and psychical strength and speed were increased as well as a large sum of chakra to go with it.

naruto and kurama had two or three occasions where they stopped and recharged.
So people overestimate the amount of chakra kurama really has.
Also the tailed beast vs kurama and the eight tails wasn't a fair assessment of their power since they were using all their power to fight obito who were controlling them.


Naruto has chakra from all 9 tailed beast now and sage mode.
Sage mode will amplify his chakra pool to outrageous amounts thanks to the tailed beast chakra.

The battle will come down to skill and teamwork

sasuke and naruto will both beat Godara together...
 

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Or, Sasuke is just gonna win the final battle and beat Naruto like he always does, just admit it my man :rolleyes:

OT: On a serious note, you're probably right here. Kyuubi seems to have a substantial amount of chakra compared to his Bijuu counterparts so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason he ends up being on Juubito's level. Though I always expected this to be so due to him being the main character. This is more of just a couple of reasons and possibilities on why it could/will be the case that a Rikudou Naruto won't be weaker than Juubito was.

@Bold, if that ever happens i'm going to be shamed of be reading this manga for a long time.
 

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Or, Sasuke is just gonna win the final battle and beat Naruto like he always does, just admit it my man :rolleyes:

OT: On a serious note, you're probably right here. Kyuubi seems to have a substantial amount of chakra compared to his Bijuu counterparts so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason he ends up being on Juubito's level. Though I always expected this to be so due to him being the main character. This is more of just a couple of reasons and possibilities on why it could/will be the case that a Rikudou Naruto won't be weaker than Juubito was.

its obvious naruto will be slightly weaker than juubito who has the dna of the sage( senju/uchiha) which naruto doesnt and who has the rinnegan which naruto doesnt, those are the key differences on why naruto won't = juubito
 

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Naruto will be able to surpass Juubi jinchuriki Obito, since Naruto is not forcing the Bijuu to fuse, but they are doing it by their own free will. Naruto won't be fighting the new being he will be cooperating. This and will make Naruto overall stronger
^This guy is right. +rep for u!
 

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@Bold, if that ever happens i'm going to be shamed of be reading this manga for a long time.

well sasuke has whooped naruto's ass 2 already, and both times he spared naruto's life for the sake of the manga continuing
 

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Nice theory, agreed totally.

Food for thought: Obito might transfer the chakra of Onmyoudon staff which he obtained after absorbing a bit of Juubi jinchuriki Madara which contains Sage's essence and chakra(Contributing factor).
 
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^This guy is right. +rep for u!

thats not right because naruto lacks the correct body which is uchiha and senju which he doesnt have and he lacks the rinnegan which is the difference between him and juubito and like i said before wether u have taken the power by force of it was given willingly as long as u had mastery of it it doesnt matter
 

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Or, Sasuke is just gonna win the final battle and beat Naruto like he always does, just admit it my man :rolleyes:

OT: On a serious note, you're probably right here. Kyuubi seems to have a substantial amount of chakra compared to his Bijuu counterparts so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason he ends up being on Juubito's level. Though I always expected this to be so due to him being the main character. This is more of just a couple of reasons and possibilities on why it could/will be the case that a Rikudou Naruto won't be weaker than Juubito was.


Well, Rikkudo Naruto will at least start out as weaker, but not enough to be considered a level below Juubito. This my take on it.


Here's how I think things will go.



-Naruto uses senjutsu to turn himself into a complete juubi jin

-Madara trolls everyone by getting his other eye and reveals the full power of the rinnegan and begins destroying Naruto

-Sasuke steps in and turns the tide with his rinnegan and Hashi's jutsu in some way or another.

-final battle between Naruto and Sasuke commence.
 

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The Sage's eyes were the Rinnegan, not the Older brother's eyes. You need both Senju and Uchiha DNA for such. So Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan while Naruto doesn't is creating a rift in this frivolous Yin-Yang complex.

I know they weren't the older borthers eyes, but through Madara we learned that the Rinnegan is the natural progression of the Sharingan once Senju DNA is introduced. Remember, Uchihas are descendants of the Older Brother who possessed the spiritual power (the eyes) while Senju are descended from the younger brother who possess strong endurance and large pools of chakra (the body) Uzumakis are related to the Senju.

If what you say above was true than Madara would not have achieved the Rinnegan. so the rift has already been planted. and what the OP said about the Yin-Yang being debunked holds merit.
 

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well sasuke has whooped naruto's ass 2 already, and both times he spared naruto's life for the sake of the manga continuing

Yeah but he has to defeat him once at least, if that doesn't happen then sakura shoulder been the main character.
 

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thats not right because naruto lacks the correct body which is uchiha and senju which he doesnt have and he lacks the rinnegan which is the difference between him and juubito and like i said before wether u have taken the power by force of it was given willingly as long as u had mastery of it it doesnt matter
Mastery of what? The juubi's power? Anyways yeah theres a power difference between taking and cooperating. Its like comparing kcm naruto to bijuu mode naruto. ..
 

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Madaras control over its power would be like kcm narutos "control". Also madara has never be a jin in his entire life up until now...

thats a ridiculous statement to say because we have seen madara instantly master the bijuu's power a sson as he obtained them, while naruto has just had half of one and just now prior to the war has tamed the power of it, so that whole madara wasnt a jin his whole life means nothing because it took naruto his whole life to tame just 50 % of one...btw u want madara to lose so badly u want to give naruto power that exceeds his despite having less bijuu chakra and not having the rinnegan + lacking a corect body(uchiha/senju) but u forget sasuke and his major role in the fall of Godara, he and naruto will bring madara down together...
 

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technically it will be a body enhancement...look at everyone who has had uchiha and senju dna, they all experience greater body's such as madara and obito most notably in obito becaus ewe actually so more of him throughout, and he has spammed his most powerful tech non stop without tire, we have never seen him tired, we have never seen him in pain until the war, which goes to show senju dna makes a big difference but i agree they will be the same as younger/elder son's

I can agree with you on this. which is why I say "persay" you are right as we've seen it did grant Madara and Obito a greater level of endurance. I just don't think it will enhance his body as much as Naruto since Naruto's clan specializes in "the body" aspect of this very subject. It would be sick to see Sasuke with the DSM though so I would have no complaints if Sasuke gained Sage Mode as well.
 

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thats not right because naruto lacks the correct body which is uchiha and senju which he doesnt have and he lacks the rinnegan which is the difference between him and juubito and like i said before wether u have taken the power by force of it was given willingly as long as u had mastery of it it doesnt matter

In this manga it matters.

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'You shall be led properly'. 'I hope you learn what true strength is'

Neither Madara nor Obito's way is the proper one.
 
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Mastery of what? The juubi's power? Anyways yeah theres a power difference between taking and cooperating. Its like comparing kcm naruto to bijuu mode naruto. ..

blah? blah? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...all what u said is nothing more than assumtions and what your hoping is right, what is right is madara doing shit in mere moments that took obito maybe hours/or days to do which took naruto 16 year to do...thats called mastery
 

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thats a ridiculous statement to say because we have seen madara instantly master the bijuu's power a sson as he obtained them, while naruto has just had half of one and just now prior to the war has tamed the power of it, so that whole madara wasnt a jin his whole life means nothing because it took naruto his whole life to tame just 50 % of one...btw u want madara to lose so badly u want to give naruto power that exceeds his despite having less bijuu chakra and not having the rinnegan + lacking a corect body(uchiha/senju) but u forget sasuke and his major role in the fall of Godara, he and naruto will bring madara down together...
Lol you deny manga facts. The potency is the same, the only difference is quantity.
 

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In this manga it matters.

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'You shall be led properly'. 'I hope you learn what true strength is'

thats not what the sage said or meant, he was saying that his path of action he chose was by force and the right path is by peace, he wasnt saying anything about the juubi's power, and the assumption u have is based on what u hope is right and not was is an actual fact, and what proves your assumption wrong is the sage had obtained full power of the juubi's power and he had went about things the wrong way...
 

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thats not what the sage said or meant, he was saying that his path of action he chose was by force and the right path is by peace, he wasnt saying anything about the juubi's power, and the assumption u have is based on what u hope is right and not was is an actual fact, and what proves your assumption wrong is the sage had obtained full power of the juubi's power and he had went about things the wrong way...
Sage had full power over the juubi? Lmao thats pure speculation.
 

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Can we just wait for next 2 or 3 chapters and see who's right and who's wrong?. .
 
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