Rikkudo Naruto won't be much weaker than Juubito

[Sennin of Logic]

Since Rikkudo Naruto will be coming soon, I thought I'd take a guess to what his abilities are. Allow me to explain why I think that.

Alright, Obito only had 6 full bijus when he became the juubi jinchuriki. He also got 2 pieces of Kurama(but not a full one). So let's look at what Naruto has. He'll have a small piece of every biju like Obito, but instead of 6 bijus, he has half of Kurama. Let's compare his powers compared to bijus.

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Half of Kurama equals 5 bijus. It's not just because it hit the bottom since the TBBs were the same size. So, the only difference between Jubito and Naruto will be 1 biju, and 2 pieces of Kurama. That's significant, but not a huge difference. So expect feats similar to Juubito from Naruto.



Also, there's another aspect that some people have never brought up. Naruto is a true sage. He's great at absorbing Narutal energy. And what it the juubi made out of?

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Madara lacks the other half of Kurama, and does not have the 10 tail's full power. What could happen is that Naruto could absorb enough Natural energy to make up for the difference in pieces and become a completely juubi jinchuriki. This would make his juubi powers greater than Madara.(now, there would still be a fight once he gets both rinnegans. That's implied to be very powerful)


So, what do you think?

 

[Narutoga]

naruto can combine it with is own sennin mode ( rikudo sennin modö)......
Edit : op said this already
.....i agree he could absorb enough senjutsu chakra to make for the loss of not having all the tailed beasts

 

[XiayouLili8]

no, naruto will not be equal because he does not have rinnegan eye and kamui. if he can combine toad sage mode with it he should be ok.

 

[Transcendence]

If my hypothesized Rinnegan comes in to play, he'd probably be above Juubito.

 

[Da Best Ever]

u were right until u started saying naruto can get more powerful than madara because if im not mistaken madara has sage mode and possibly the most powerful sage mode and he completely mastered it himself, so if naruto can absorb natural energy and become stronger it makes sense madara could too...

 

[Sennin of Logic]

no, naruto will not be equal because he does not have rinnegan eye and kamui. if he can combine toad sage mode with it he should be ok.

I'm not saying he'll overall equal Madara, just that his jinchuriki powers might be stronger.

 

[Transcendence]

Here is what I think Naruto will achieve:

Before delving in to what is going to be a much shorter theory than my usual transcripts, I advise you to read my previous thread which it itself also goes over certain thoughts in this thread that have stayed concrete and hasn’t been disproven at all.

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Prologue

The root of this theory comes from my interest in the ending of last chapter, which had Uchiha Obito give Naruto Yin Kurama. [

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It’s quite evident that Naruto is going to get Yin Kurama, as that was Minato’s plan all along as his “gift” that he wanted to give Naruto. But what is rather peculiar about this is simple; it makes no difference that Naruto is to get solely Yin Kurama. Madara in his Pre-Juubi Jinchuriki form easily dispatched of Naruto and yanked Kurama from him without much effort while also manhandling Eien No Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke without much effort as well. Just going out on a limb here, but there is more to what Obito is going to do, and this ties in to my hypothesis from the previous thread. . Obito specifically took out the 1 Tails chakra AND 8 tails [

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]. What’s so important about this?

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. The only two missing Bijuu are Shukaku AND Gyuki (Hachibi), who so coincidentally were the only portions of chakra taken out of Madara. This ties in to Naruto’s future power.

Initial premise

Postulation from the other thread: A Pseudo Juubi Jinchuriki mode.

Sounds exciting doesn’t it? Well it is. And it is likely to happen in the future. As Naruto has (will get from Obito) the remainder of the chakra that comprises the Juubi (all 9 beasts) he will be a Pseudo Juubi Jinchuriki as he doesn’t have the actual beast within him but can mirror said effects by having the essence in him (Much like how Kaguya had the Juubi's essence within her when she ate the fruit and Hagoromo was born with it's essence within him [

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]) which will tie in to the more controversial but also foreshadowed power for Naruto as well.

Benefits to this mode:

- Well as we have seen, anybody who has the Juubi’s chaka regardless of scale seem to have obscene speed [

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], enough to “blitz” someone with reflexes on the level of Tobirama (who is literally top tier, only contested by Minato, Sharingan masters and Sennin Modo users). Subsequent to this mode and the panels that preceded the scan I showed you, it displayed the strength feats one is capable of with this power.

- Higher destructive capability. We’ve seen Naruto match the combined Bijuudama from 6 Tailed beasts with just Yang Kurama within him. With Yin Kurama and the added chakra of EIGHT Tailed beasts, mirroring the Juubi’s chakra, he’s in a class of his own in terms of destructive capability. Only contested by Juubi Jinchuriki versions of Obito, Madara and Hagoromo himself.

- Heightened reflexes. I’m a tad complacent at the moment, but you scans and panels have shown that Madara was able to dodge an FTG blitz from a Sennin Modo Minato quite easily, while Obito was able to intercept Amaterasu merely by sensing chakra spurring in Uchiha Sasuke’s eye. Quite benefical.

The Rin’negan

This is controversial. For whatever reason, the base believes that Naruto is restricted to body power-ups and Sasuke eye power-ups, whereas there has been foreshadowing Naruto will awaken the Rin’negan [

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] (This is also foreshadowing that said Rin’negan will be due to the Bijuu’s coalesced chakra and the influence it has on his body) and Sasuke has been inherently compatible with Senjutsu since he was 12 years old and he’ll be dead weight against Madara unless he achieves some kind of Sennin Modo, which he likely will will (Read my premise on the Elder Sons Dojutsu here:

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and it’s possibly correlated to Sennin Modo as well).

It's basically down a line of events:

Kaguya ate the fruit (essence of the Juubi) -> Rikudou is born with the powers of the fruit (Still from the Juubi) -> His powers throuhout life pre and post Jin were always from the Juubi -> Both his sons are half of him and by reconvening the bloodline you awaken the Rin'negan -> Reconvening the bloodline is essentially putting back the Juubi's chakra together as Rikudou's chakra is the Juubi's chakra -> The Bijuu's ARE the Juubi and hold the same properties if put together like reconvening the bloodline did for Madara -> Essentially, Naruto awakens the foreshadowed Rin'negan (Rin'negan appearing behind him is indicative foreshadowing) along with being a Pseudo Juubi Jin basically on par with Madara (with Madara probably slightly edging him out and Sasuke tipping the scale after he comes back more powerful).

Naruto essentially becomes a Pseudo Juubi Jinchuriki, putting him near Madara in power, but has the benefit of a naturally acquired Sennin Modo and TWO Rin’negan to combat Madara. Adding in Sasuke and the inevitable power he will acquire through the means most likely of the mystery man, and the battle becomes a logical way to beat Madara without resorting to antics related to talking him down.

Extra: The Bijuu's willingly gave Naruto their chakra. The "right path" concept that Rikudou himself stated [

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] must come in to play here and that will probably be a point where Naruto may usurp Madara because he didn't force the Bijuu's to give him chakra.
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[Da Best Ever]

If my hypothesized Rinnegan comes in to play, he'd probably be above Juubito.

juubito had rinnegan too, and juubito has much better dna than naruto who is uzumaki who are basically cousins to senju while obito is made up of senju and uchiha which is what the sage is made up of so dna/body makes more of the difference...

 

[Sennin of Logic]

u were right until u started saying naruto can get more powerful than madara because if im not mistaken madara has sage mode and possibly the most powerful sage mode and he completely mastered it himself, so if naruto can absorb natural energy and become stronger it makes sense madara could too...

Madara absorbed Hashirama's chakra. Jury's still out if he can use it by himself.

 

[iNotorious]

Juuruto + sage mode + kamui = ​

 

[Narutoga]

no, naruto will not be equal because he does not have rinnegan eye and kamui. if he can combine toad sage mode with it he should be ok.

can obito use kamui in rikkudo mode ?, no ,so that is ruled out. Although rinnegan makes madara stronger than him

 

[iNotorious]

can obito use kamui in rikkudo mode ?, no ,so that is ruled out. Although rinnegan makes madara stronger than him

The difference between the two of them will be that naruto is going to be a pseudo and obito wasn't a pseudo.​

 

[Seventh Sama]

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Regarding narutos power as a juubi jin, read tobi's statement!
Anyways the powergap between juubito and juubi jin naruto shouldnt be that far apart.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Here is what I think Naruto will achieve:

whether u do it by force and its given willingly doesn matter because madara has obtained mastery of the amount of juubi he has, and we are all sure naruto will obtain mastery of the amount he will have but he will have a lesser amount and madara has the edge on naruto...knowledge of the sage/juubi and the most important his dna is senju/uchiha which is what the sage is made up of, and he has currently more experience with the juubi's power....and u guys have to realize when naruto becomes the jin he will have a small portion of the power madara will have the majority so regardless naruto will still be at an disadvantage but thats when sasuke comes into play he will most likely obtain rinnegan and they both together will bring down Godara...

 

[Umari Senju]

u were right until u started saying naruto can get more powerful than madara because if im not mistaken madara has sage mode and possibly the most powerful sage mode and he completely mastered it himself, so if naruto can absorb natural energy and become stronger it makes sense madara could too...

Possibly, but this is where Sasuke comes into play. More importantly, the jutsu Hashirama taught Sasuke. Remember Hashirama said the jutsu he would teach Sasuke is designed to supress Madara's Sage mode which he took from him. So even if madara's sage mode is stronger, Sasuke's jutsu will negate it.

 

[Narutoga]

u were right until u started saying naruto can get more powerful than madara because if im not mistaken madara has sage mode and possibly the most powerful sage mode and he completely mastered it himself, so if naruto can absorb natural energy and become stronger it makes sense madara could too...

madara can't absorb energy from nature, thats why he took it from hashirama, naruto on the other hand can absorb as much enough chakra to balance it with

 

[slaton02]

No, it like saying 7$ and 2 cents is close to 1$ and 8 cents. Obito had 7 whole beast and chakra from 2 naruto only has 1 and chakra from 8

 

[iNotorious]

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Regarding narutos power as a juubi jin, read tobi's statement!
Anyways the powergap between juubito and juubi jin naruto shouldnt be that far apart.

Well it's true, having more chakra = quantity.​

 

[Da Best Ever]

The difference between the two of them will be that naruto is going to be a pseudo and obito wasn't a pseudo.​

naruto will be less than what obito was because the amount obito had was slightly more + he had the rinnegan/ms, naruto wont have the rinnegan and he will almost equal juubito in the amount he has but that is the difference so he will still be less than juubito but rinnegan sasuke will make up the difference we all know he and naruto will bring down Godara together

 

[Transcendence]

whether u do it by force and its given willingly doesn matter because madara has obtained mastery of the amount of juubi he has, and we are all sure naruto will obtain mastery of the amount he will have but he will have a lesser amount and madara has the edge on naruto...knowledge of the sage/juubi and the most important his dna is senju/uchiha which is what the sage is made up of, and he has currently more experience with the juubi's power....and u guys have to realize when naruto becomes the jin he will have a small portion of the power madara will have the majority so regardless naruto will still be at an disadvantage but thats when sasuke comes into play he will most likely obtain rinnegan and they both together will bring down Godara...

Obito confirmed that the amount one has doesn't matter. It's potency remains the same (refer to the scan a couple of posts above this).​