Minato's SM

[FourthSmokage]

And I disagree with 1-(being instant)

Minato could of have started from page 2-3 in that chapter, that was more time there. The momment he sense Madara's Hermit, and he knew senjutsu only works, is where he knows when to get ready to use it.

Actually, the moment Minato realized that Senjutsu works on ninja with Rikudou powers was waaaay back when naruto first Rasengan-ed Obito. So if you think about it, technically Minato has been sitting on Sage Mode for a long ass time.

 

[MrLukyso]

You are basically trying to deny Kishimotos facts and create your own.

You cannot deny the fact that Minato is SLOW at Entering Sage mode and that He cannot maintain it for a long time, IT WAS SAID by Minato - Kishimoto.

Stop overfanboying, cause this is just retarded at this point.

 

[Xēnovia.]

Nice thread. Awesome sig by the way =D

dat sig tho

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[Gold Lightning]

And I disagree with 1-(being instant)

Minato could of have started from page 2-3 in that chapter, that was more time there. The momment he sense Madara's Hermit, and he knew senjutsu only works, is where he knows when to get ready to use it.

Lets not forget that whenever Naruto and Hashirama gather senjutsu, they always close their eyes and concentrate without focusing on anything else and being perfectly still.

But in Minato's case he never did that, he was listening to the conversation between Obito and Madara with his eyes wide open the whole time. Like bogard said, he tossed the kunai before he was in sage mode and gathered the little senjutsu he needed for that one rasengan, literally finishing it all at once on that attck.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Actually, the moment Minato realized that Senjutsu works on ninja with Rikudou powers was waaaay back when naruto first Rasengan-ed Obito. So if you think about it, technically Minato has been sitting on Sage Mode for a long ass time.

But he knew Naruto had mastered it, so he didn't have to go through the trouble back then

He either didn't think of it or Minato just didn't feel the need to go through all that trouble since his FTG gets the job done in no time at all. Minato isn't a time waster, he makes quick work of his opponents, notice Minato uses jutsu without hand signs in order to save time and effort.

Also lets not forget that the shadow clone thing was Kakashi's ingenious idea, if Kakashi never showed Naruto that tactic to training, Naruto would have never come up with the clone thing, even Fukasaku and Shima didn't think of it. It was the whole trying to look left and right at the same time concept that lead to Nartuo using shadow clones to gather senjutsu.

Good point.

 

[Bogard]

And I disagree with 1-(being instant)

Minato could of have started from page 2-3 in that chapter, that was more time there. The momment he sense Madara's Hermit, and he knew senjutsu only works, is where he knows when to get ready to use it.

He throwed kunai before entering the mode. You can't kneed the chakra while being mobile

 

[FourthSmokage]

You are basically trying to deny Kishimotos facts and create your own.

You cannot deny the fact that Minato is SLOW at Entering Sage mode and that He cannot maintain it for a long time, IT WAS SAID by Minato - Kishimoto.

Stop overfanboying, cause this is just retarded at this point.

I would have chosen nicer words, but I agree with this statement, and that's coming from a Minato fanboy.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Actually, the moment Minato realized that Senjutsu works on ninja with Rikudou powers was waaaay back when naruto first Rasengan-ed Obito. So if you think about it, technically Minato has been sitting on Sage Mode for a long ass time.

But Minato has been moving since then, you need to be perfectly still to even begin gathering senjutsu

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I agree. Anybody reasoning through this without intentionally looking for a way to make Minato look bad would see how this works. Minato has 2 options, entering SM super fast but losing it quickly as well, or take time to enter SM for longer durations.


If you really think about it, Minato's difficulty with SM is not a weakness. Minato could always teleport to distant kunai for the time he needs for SM, so it's really not a weakness at all.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lets not forget that whenever Naruto and Hashirama gather senjutsu, they always close their eyes and concentrate without focusing on anything else and being perfectly still.

But in Minato's case he never did that, he was listening to the conversation between Obito and Madara with his eyes wide open the whole time. Like bogard said, he tossed the kunai before he was in sage mode and gathered the little senjutsu he needed for that one rasengan, literally finishing it all at once on that attck.

Manga also shows that its not necessary to do that. Read chapter 535 Page 1-3

 

[End of Days]

infinitely better thread than the others on the same topic

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I was expecting a kakashi>amaterasu thread from you, since kakashi warped away rasengan which was touching his body

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[Xēnovia.]

Btw...what's up T Bogard?^^​

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He throwed kunai before entering the mode. You can't kneed the chakra while being mobile

Thats not an accurate way to interpret that to be honest. He could of been on that mode on the same panel, unshown yet, for Manga suspense.

So it doesn't contradict being still to get Sage Chakra

 

[juzumaki]

hes not a perfect sage that was made clear last chapter he has no frog kata which he clearly stated thhat he couldnt even need chakra properly the fact that hes out of sage mode already is further proof of that he cant even last 2 minutes in sage mode

currently hes last on the list for sage users

 

[Sennin of Logic]

hes not a perfect sage that was made clear last chapter he has no frog kata which he clearly stated thhat he couldnt even need chakra properly the fact that hes out of sage mode already is further proof of that he cant even last 2 minutes in sage mode

currently hes last on the list for sage users

He is a true sage.

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By definition, Minato's SM is better than Jiraya'a, but just doesn't last long, which is not a weakness for a FTG user.

 

[FourthSmokage]

hes not a perfect sage that was made clear last chapter he has no frog kata which he clearly stated thhat he couldnt even need chakra properly the fact that hes out of sage mode already is further proof of that he cant even last 2 minutes in sage mode

currently hes last on the list for sage users

On that note, you could come to the conclusion that Frog-Kata would kick Madara's ass. If Madara's only weaknesses are Taijutsu and Senjutsu, then Frog Kata, which combines both, would be perfect.

 

[iNotorious]

On that note, you could come to the conclusion that Frog-Kata would kick Madara's ass. If Madara's only weaknesses are Taijutsu and Senjutsu, then Frog Kata, which combines both, would be perfect.

Well 7 gates gai's taijutsu didn't have any effect, maybe 8 gates will do something and yeah i agree with the argument of frog kata.​

 

[Joker]

Well 7 gates gai's taijutsu didn't have any effect, maybe 8 gates will do something and yeah i agree with the argument of frog kata.​

It would be perfect, but getting close and not getting hit by his techniques is a problem. He's not Pein.. v_v

 

[Gold Lightning]

Manga also shows that its not necessary to do that. Read chapter 535 Page 1-3

Watch the episode, Naruto does exactly what Mnato does. He enters sage mode in a matter of seconds just for the quick purpose of getting past the guards, he then loses it seconds later. Same thing Minato has just done, Naruto gathered just the little bit of senjutsu he needed for that moment before losing it.

Thats not an accurate way to interpret that to be honest. He could of been on that mode on the same panel, unshown yet, for Manga suspense.

So it doesn't contradict being still to get Sage Chakra

That's what it looks like accroding to the scans, I'm gonna go with that until the anime releases the episode.

 

[iNotorious]

It would be perfect, but getting close and not getting hit by his techniques is a problem. He's not Pein.. v_v

Well if 8 gates doesn't do ANYTHING against current madara well i don't know what sasuke could/would do against madara. Naruto is the only savior so far.​