[Discussion] Current Kabuto solos Itachi no diff and solos Hashirama

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Here is my argument as to why,

Kabuto has full intel on Itachi. Genjutsu wont work, Izanami wouldnt work anymore, Kabuto has superior taijutsu, MS reflexes or greater, auto healing, liquification, sensing, sound genjutsu, Kaguya KKG, Spider web attacks, senjutsu attacks
Suiton counters Katon.
Medical skill is very deadly as well.
Kabuto dodged an arrow easily from Sasuke Susanoo, Itachi isnt hitting him with Totsuka gg. As for the shield, with the White dragon senjutsu, Itachi cant sustain a full susanoo at that point, giving Kabuto enough time to end game.
Kabuto, amongst a few others have all surpassed Itachi by far.

Kabuto can also defeat Hashirama. One bite from Kabuto, and Hashirama is down for the count. No more Mokuton based jutsu, plus poison.

thoughts?
 

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Inb4 finger genjutsu solos, shitachi 4va!!
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Oh please...Itachi would somehow defeat him again.
 

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I actually hadn't considered that izanami is useless now.....:/

Also Kabuto can bypass susano'o and yata entirely by using inorganic transmutation or kimimaro: bone forest to hit through the exposed floor of susano'o.
 

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I actually hadn't considered that izanami is useless now.....:/

Also Kabuto can bypass susano'o and yata entirely by using inorganic transmutation or kimimaro: bone forest to hit through the exposed floor of susano'o.

Izanami is useless against current Kabuto. There are specific requirements, Kabuto now accepts himself for who he is, Izanami wont have any effect.
 

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Here is my argument as to why,

Kabuto has full intel on Itachi. Genjutsu wont work, Izanami wouldnt work anymore, Kabuto has superior taijutsu, MS reflexes or greater, auto healing, liquification, sensing, sound genjutsu, Kaguya KKG, Spider web attacks, senjutsu attacks
Suiton counters Katon.
Medical skill is very deadly as well.
Kabuto dodged an arrow easily from Sasuke Susanoo, Itachi isnt hitting him with Totsuka gg. As for the shield, with the White dragon senjutsu, Itachi cant sustain a full susanoo at that point, giving Kabuto enough time to end game.
Kabuto, amongst a few others have all surpassed Itachi by far.

Kabuto can also defeat Hashirama. One bite from Kabuto, and Hashirama is down for the count. No more Mokuton based jutsu, plus poison.

thoughts?
As far as itachi goes, I think it depends upo the situation, i will admit Kabuto is pretty powerful, but environment plays a big role in a fight, i think one reason Itachi didnt win sooner was cuz Kabuto was able to hide in the cave.
But Hashirama, no just no. He has the giant Budha, you can't escape that and Kabuto doesn't have the defense to block or the abilty to phase or teleport like many others would have.
One great thing about Naruto is that there are counters to Jutsus and I dont think you can call a fight just because of someones abilities against another opponent. One person may have a counter while another might not, so while one ability will work on Itachi, doesn't mea It will work on Hashi. Kabuto hasn't shown an ability that can block that budha or even many of the best of mokuton. Also hashi has sage mode. To me it would seem that Kabutos most threatening move to Hashi would be that genjutsu or a close range poison attack. But all it takes to block that genjutsu is to wrap it in something like mokuton, an abilty that Itachi didn't have so he couldn't defend against it. Close range poison isn't a probelm because Hashi has sage mode which helps in close quarters and he is also a mid/log range fighter, he wont let Kabu get close, especially if he just sits in a wooden golem.
 

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Also Hashi got healing factor so poison might not work.
 

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Kabuto would still lose to Hashirama.Listing a bunch of jutsus is meaningless. Kabuto himself marvel at Hashirama's power.If your name isn't Madara, you are not beating Hashirama.
 

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Itachi just changed Kabuto, you heard what Orochimaru said...

There is no way out...
 

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Here is my argument as to why,

Kabuto has full intel on Itachi. Genjutsu wont work, Izanami wouldnt work anymore, Kabuto has superior taijutsu, MS reflexes or greater, auto healing, liquification, sensing, sound genjutsu, Kaguya KKG, Spider web attacks, senjutsu attacks
Suiton counters Katon.
Medical skill is very deadly as well.
Kabuto dodged an arrow easily from Sasuke Susanoo, Itachi isnt hitting him with Totsuka gg. As for the shield, with the White dragon senjutsu, Itachi cant sustain a full susanoo at that point, giving Kabuto enough time to end game.
Kabuto, amongst a few others have all surpassed Itachi by far.

Kabuto can also defeat Hashirama. One bite from Kabuto, and Hashirama is down for the count. No more Mokuton based jutsu, plus poison.

thoughts?

so what are Kabuto's counters to itachi's legendary weapons?
 

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Why wouldn't Izanami work? Just because he broke out of it once, doesn't meant he can't be hit by it again. It took him a while to realise he was in Izanami before, Plenty of time for Itachi to cut him in half.
 
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