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Battles aren't determine that way
These are some dumb people on this thread. Itachi> ms obito. No such thing as obito with two kamuis. But itachi would lose tho. Overall itachi is clearly more skilled in every aspect yet yall deny it:|
kakashi and co had no intel on obito either while he had full intel yet he lost.
It's manga fact that itachi > obito. people need to stop denying manga fact, it's getting old.
People need to stop calling their interpretation of Naruto "manga fact." That's also getting old.
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He knew he needed EMS to have a chance to surpass the one he knew as Madara(Obito)
bogard. stop.
This doesnt prove anything.
We both know itachi wanted to make sure sasuke took him serious
We both know itachi wanted to test/push sasuke to his limit.
We both saw the manga scan and saw obito hide kamui from itachi while he was alive.
We both saw the manga scan of obito admitting being inferior to sick MS itachi, which supports above.
dont join the troll wagon.
MS itachi> MS Obito
Other obitos are up for discussion but MS is not
Actually no, Obito has more than just kamui and mokuton
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He is still way stronger...
then why after all that did obito
-hide his kamui from itachi
-Hide his appearence, but failed
-admitt that itachi could kill him, if he knew his secerts"
-Waited till itachi died to evade and care out his plans
you kids can say obito is stronger all you want, that doesnt mean he wins.
manga proves what im saying and i wont repeate myself
MS itachi> MS obito
manga fact. all other assumptions and theories are irrelvent
Lmao obito fans must be getting desperate to interpret that scan like that.Here:
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He knew he needed EMS to have a chance to surpass the one he knew as Madara(Obito)
Manga fact is the scan that I've shown you above, uchiha/senju dna and powers grant you the ability to use those powerful techniques regardless of what you think he can and can't do.
The fact that obito had to cover his tracks and secrets from a konaha spy doesn't mean anything to you?
Stop posting kid too, I got at least 5 years on you. :|
No he called him a defeated dog because despite all the power he had, he still lost 2times(to Hashirama, then against Minato). Uchihas are supposed to be strong, so for the strongest Uchiha to lose 2times, it's humiliating, reason why he wanted to surpass the strongest Uchiha he knewLmao obito fans must be getting desperate to interpret that scan like that.
The first scan obviously talks of obito
- "Madara[obito] is a defeated dog unworthy of the uchiha name". ImplyingYou must be registered for see linksis shit weak.
- "I am the one who shall surpass madara[the legend madara] and become the ultimate shinobi". Implying theYou must be registered for see linksa who he's currently weaker than.
lol but you kids are saying he was sooo strong that he could win low/mid/neg diff
by that logic why would he need to hide anything from itachi?
why would he need to be scared to careout his plan?
you kids defeat yourself the moment you stop using your brain.
and i highly doubt your 5 years older than me because your behavior is that of a child.
No he called him a defeated dog because despite all the power he had, he still lost 2times(to Hashirama, then against Minato). Uchihas are supposed to be strong, so for the strongest Uchiha to lose 2times, it's humiliating, reason why he wanted to surpass the strongest Uchiha he knew
Your interpretation makes no sense, but doesn't surprise me. I'm not even a Obito fan, but whatever you say dude
A defeated dog "He is not worthy or capable..." right after stating "madara[obito] formed the akatsuki. madara[obito] unleashed kyuubi on the village and got smacked by minato".
Manga panda's translation says "A shell of his former strength who's no longer worthy of ...".[You must be registered for see links]
In other words, the madara he knows[obito] doesn't live up to the hype of the madara's he's read of [the legend].
Madara losing to hashirama is a completely different incident in a different time span. Even obito says itachi could defeat him.