Abilities I wish Kishi would clarify

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1.For starters, I'd like him to clarify just how powerful bijus and Perfect susanoos are.

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And no, this is not an error in translation. This is a viz scan. Madara claims that Perfect Susanoo's slash has enough power to destroy the universe and by extension, the bijus since he said his Perfect Susanoo rivals them and didn't say it was stronger. I'd wish kishi would clarify if this is hyperbole or not. If it's not, Naruto characters are on a whole other league when compared to the other big 3.

2. How fast are Naruto characters?

Don't tell me you're not curious about this. Just to what extent is their speed? How can we tell when they're using body flicker or not? Series like One Piece and Bleach make it obvious when it happens, but not so much with the Naruto series. It looks just like they're still in normal speed. If not for speed feats, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

3. How much does senjutsu enhance something? It's obvious it's by a lot, but at how much?

4.How durable are Naruto characters?


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I'd also like a clarification for the first statement. Cuz let's be real - "contains enough power to smash all thing in this universe"?. This must be a hyperbole or else we're talking Marvel or DC type of power.
 

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1. They're multi mount- mountain busters

2.top tiers are massively hypersonic(sage madara,juudara,(maybe)Pseudo juubi jin naruto) , mid tiers are hypsersonic(Gai,lee,kakashi,sasuke.etc). low tiers are supersonic fodders basically.

3. by 100x. estimated.

4.high tiers have country durability. mid tiers have city durability and low tiers have city block durability...
 

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I'd also like a clarification for the first statement. Cuz let's be real - "contains enough power to smash all thing in this universe"?. This must be a hyperbole or else we're talking Marvel or DC type of power.

It could be that the attack contains enough energy, but is focused on one target so that it doesn't actually blow up the universe. It's possible. Naruto wouldn't be the first anime with universe destroying abilities that doesn't actually destroy the universe.
 

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Most of them are clarified, you just have to read between the lines.
Kishi's mistake is that he just is focusing on main characters, that's why a clarify is unnecessary.
 

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Yeah the Susano'o one can be really confusing, especially since Madara captured the 9 tails, so does it rival or is it greater than
 

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Yeah the Susano'o one can be really confusing, especially since Madara captured the 9 tails, so does it rival or is it greater than

Madara captured the 9 tails through genjutsu, so I'm guessing rivals, since he stated that in viz. I use this all the time whenever arguing if Naruto or Sasuke is stronger.
 

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You bring up a good question. My guess is these feats will stay has hyperbole for the simple fact that if the character becomes too overpowerd like Madara, then they can adjust the power scaling when the time come for them to be defeated. Then no one can say his power was "X" strong, and Naruto's is only "X" strong so how did he win?

Keeps Kishi from making abvious power adjustments to suit a particular situation. It's just like Itachi's Susanoo which is also discribed in the data book as "invincible" Yet clearly it is not.
 

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Bijuu's are powerful enough that one wave of their tail swing can create tsunamis and a Bijuu dama can dis-integrate a mountain...
PS easily withstood an average sized Bijuu dama and it could slice several mounts in a single slash...

Most of the speeds are just like of Usain Bolt, enhanced foot speed are super-sonic and Juubi hosts have hyper-sonic speeds... S/T speeds are instantaneous...

Standard high durability is like of Shaolin masters... Enhanced durability can withstand nukes and Juubi hosts have even more than that...
 

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you gotta be pretty stupid if u think the perfect susanoo can destroy the universe. not even some of the most overpowered characters in anime cant do that.
 

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you gotta be pretty stupid if u think the perfect susanoo can destroy the universe. not even some of the most overpowered characters in anime cant do that.


Don't start off with insulting people. It's not stupid considering both the anime and manga maintain this statement. If it get into the databook as well, then it's confirmed without a doubt.

Somehow I just knew DBZ fans would get mad at the scan. Some anime characters that would be considered not "some of the most overpowered characters in anime" can in fact do this. Case in point.

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I would like clarification on speed aswell aswell epsecially with recent feats -begining till before juubi was summoned it was clear, now not so much.
-Madara's omnyouton orbs, Juubi bijudama ( cross thousands of kilometers extremly quickly, Hashirama running across a mountain range in moments) Kakashi using kamui in gedou mazou's arm near instantly etc,juubito blitzing naruto and sasuke ( naruto has sage mode sensing).... - these feats put god teir naruto characters from from a low-end mach 150+ ( hashirama,madara, VOTE) all the way to mach 1,000 + movement speed and mach 20,000 attack speed (shell bijudama, omnyouton orbs)
speed, like in most manga, I would love a in depth explanation because it is so variable and subjective ( to the perspective of the drawing, angel, forground, background all affect how a feat is calced)

-I would love clarification on some specific sealing justu. I know fuinjustu can bind (seal) things which makes sense (storage scrolls, barriers, curse seals etc make sense)-How do exploision tags work? can you seal a exploisn for future use- why don't ninja seal other justu instead ( jiriaya using a exploision tag based off of ammaterasu) Futhermore, how does a sealing justu allow for instantaneous movement-do you seal yourself into another dimension that doesnot have time-
The best I can come up with is that the seal (mark) isnot what allows for teleportation -minato acutally has another justu for teleportation, the seal only stores his chakra which tells him where to teleport to.-as far as I can tell, kishi said sealing can be used to seal things ( makes sense) and then without explanation somehow the ability to seal stuff- allows for teleportation.

-I would like further explanation of a bijudama - I know its a ratio of white/black chakra -but white and black chakra have never been mentioned before what are they-where does it comes from? If they are ying and yang then how is a bijudama different than omnyouton? -My theory is that omnyouton requires 50/50 ratio- also, what properties does a bijudama have- when does it expand, how heavy are the large ones?. since bijudama are now always mentioned in Naruto matchups ( its his strongest attack) I would like info on how they work exactly-

I would like a update on Naruto's sage mode abilties, I know he has gotten better with using it - how far is his sensing, how strong, how durable, etc...

Lastly bit for naruto- what is going on with BSM- how strong is he in that mode? -Sage chakra enhances nin,gen, and tai justu, so how much stronger is BSM compared to BM- if you take the explanation the kurama is made of sage chakra ( juubi) - and that the avatar forms in BM and BSM are roughly equal,- but- BSM Naruto ( without kuruma avatar just cloak) should be much stronger than regular BSM- ( BM is external- sage mode internal) for example in BM cloak his justu don't get stronger ( he just gets access to bijudama) in BM cloak, he just gets faster and stronger

( the point above basically states that kuruma + sage mode is probably not much stronger since his chakra is already nature like, however Naruto in BSM with only his cloak not the avatar should be much stronger than normal BM because, normally BM makes his nomal body faster and stronger,- in sage mode, BSM the kyubi chakra would be making a faster version of naruto even more agile.

-for example his rasengans ( in Biju Mode cloak) arenot any bigger than his regular rasengans, his rasenshurken in BM is the same size as a regular rasenshurken.

This statement proves that BM chakra only enhances his physical abilties- speed etc... not his internal chakra,-so, technically since BM enhances Naruto's body ( mabey this is because he only has kurumas yang), in sage mode, BM should be enhancing a stronger body ( in sage mode Naruto's body is stronger)-

-The truth is that even though BM and Sage mode are similar types of chakra ( juubi chakra) they enhance different things, sage mode enhances naruto's internal chakra-his justu all get a massive increase), while BM only seems to enhance his (external) or physical body. The point is that Sage Mode enhances Naruto's speed, by making his whole body stronger from the inside, BM has shown only to make him stronger from the outside- so if naruto combines them both, the abilties should be additive, not overlaping.
- Think of BM as a enhancing suit, ( similar to venom) in that if you wear it it makes you faster by x amount, ( this is proven because kyubi chakra Lee ( few chakra tails ) is faster than kyubi chakra naruto ( a few tails) - just like lee is faster than naruto, and kyubi mode lee is faster than kyubi mode naruto, sage mode naruto + BM should be faster than regular naruto + biju mode.
-Compare BM to the raikage's lightning aura, if the raikage had sage mode he would be even faster than normal- Naruto should be the same ( since kurama chakra isnot internal ( his base chakra is still what fuels his techniques etc)

Kishi should differenciate exactly how much stronger BSM Naruto is- it should be a massive power up, not a tool only used to harm juubito.

At the very least- If you disagree that BSM naruto should be stronger and faster-you should atleast believe BSM should have stronger justu

In conclusion:
BSM naruto should get all his RM mode feats + sage mode feats ( rasengan planet-etc...) with sage mode sized rasengans.
BSM cloaked Naruto- at the very least- should have access to senjustu enhanced rasengans + the versatility of the chakra arms ( which enables new justu to be used)

last point, I want kishi to explain amaterasu- how hot is it? what are its characteristic ( sasuke has cut with it)

PS
-Its kinda a joke but kishi needs to explain the substitution technique- why don't ninja use it, how does it work exactly?
 

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I would like clarification on speed aswell aswell epsecially with recent feats -begining till before juubi was summoned it was clear, now not so much.
-Madara's omnyouton orbs, Juubi bijudama ( cross thousands of kilometers extremly quickly, Hashirama running across a mountain range in moments) Kakashi using kamui in gedou mazou's arm near instantly etc,juubito blitzing naruto and sasuke ( naruto has sage mode sensing).... - these feats put god teir naruto characters from from a low-end mach 150+ ( hashirama,madara, VOTE) all the way to mach 1,000 + movement speed and mach 20,000 attack speed (shell bijudama, omnyouton orbs)
speed, like in most manga, I would love a in depth explanation because it is so variable and subjective ( to the perspective of the drawing, angel, forground, background all affect how a feat is calced)

-I would love clarification on some specific sealing justu. I know fuinjustu can bind (seal) things which makes sense (storage scrolls, barriers, curse seals etc make sense)-How do exploision tags work? can you seal a exploisn for future use- why don't ninja seal other justu instead ( jiriaya using a exploision tag based off of ammaterasu) Futhermore, how does a sealing justu allow for instantaneous movement-do you seal yourself into another dimension that doesnot have time-
The best I can come up with is that the seal (mark) isnot what allows for teleportation -minato acutally has another justu for teleportation, the seal only stores his chakra which tells him where to teleport to.-as far as I can tell, kishi said sealing can be used to seal things ( makes sense) and then without explanation somehow the ability to seal stuff- allows for teleportation.

-I would like further explanation of a bijudama - I know its a ratio of white/black chakra -but white and black chakra have never been mentioned before what are they-where does it comes from? If they are ying and yang then how is a bijudama different than omnyouton? -My theory is that omnyouton requires 50/50 ratio- also, what properties does a bijudama have- when does it expand, how heavy are the large ones?. since bijudama are now always mentioned in Naruto matchups ( its his strongest attack) I would like info on how they work exactly-

I would like a update on Naruto's sage mode abilties, I know he has gotten better with using it - how far is his sensing, how strong, how durable, etc...

Lastly bit for naruto- what is going on with BSM- how strong is he in that mode? -Sage chakra enhances nin,gen, and tai justu, so how much stronger is BSM compared to BM- if you take the explanation the kurama is made of sage chakra ( juubi) - and that the avatar forms in BM and BSM are roughly equal,- but- BSM Naruto ( without kuruma avatar just cloak) should be much stronger than regular BSM- ( BM is external- sage mode internal) for example in BM cloak his justu don't get stronger ( he just gets access to bijudama) in BM cloak, he just gets faster and stronger

( the point above basically states that kuruma + sage mode is probably not much stronger since his chakra is already nature like, however Naruto in BSM with only his cloak not the avatar should be much stronger than normal BM because, normally BM makes his nomal body faster and stronger,- in sage mode, BSM the kyubi chakra would be making a faster version of naruto even more agile.

-for example his rasengans ( in Biju Mode cloak) arenot any bigger than his regular rasengans, his rasenshurken in BM is the same size as a regular rasenshurken.

This statement proves that BM chakra only enhances his physical abilties- speed etc... not his internal chakra,-so, technically since BM enhances Naruto's body ( mabey this is because he only has kurumas yang), in sage mode, BM should be enhancing a stronger body ( in sage mode Naruto's body is stronger)-

-The truth is that even though BM and Sage mode are similar types of chakra ( juubi chakra) they enhance different things, sage mode enhances naruto's internal chakra-his justu all get a massive increase), while BM only seems to enhance his (external) or physical body. The point is that Sage Mode enhances Naruto's speed, by making his whole body stronger from the inside, BM has shown only to make him stronger from the outside- so if naruto combines them both, the abilties should be additive, not overlaping.
- Think of BM as a enhancing suit, ( similar to venom) in that if you wear it it makes you faster by x amount, ( this is proven because kyubi chakra Lee ( few chakra tails ) is faster than kyubi chakra naruto ( a few tails) - just like lee is faster than naruto, and kyubi mode lee is faster than kyubi mode naruto, sage mode naruto + BM should be faster than regular naruto + biju mode.
-Compare BM to the raikage's lightning aura, if the raikage had sage mode he would be even faster than normal- Naruto should be the same ( since kurama chakra isnot internal ( his base chakra is still what fuels his techniques etc)

Kishi should differenciate exactly how much stronger BSM Naruto is- it should be a massive power up, not a tool only used to harm juubito.

At the very least- If you disagree that BSM naruto should be stronger and faster-you should atleast believe BSM should have stronger justu

In conclusion:
BSM naruto should get all his RM mode feats + sage mode feats ( rasengan planet-etc...) with sage mode sized rasengans.
BSM cloaked Naruto- at the very least- should have access to senjustu enhanced rasengans + the versatility of the chakra arms ( which enables new justu to be used)

last point, I want kishi to explain amaterasu- how hot is it? what are its characteristic ( sasuke has cut with it)

PS
-Its kinda a joke but kishi needs to explain the substitution technique- why don't ninja use it, how does it work exactly?

I lol'd at bold and yeah i agree too haha
 

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I would like clarification on speed aswell aswell epsecially with recent feats -begining till before juubi was summoned it was clear, now not so much.
-Madara's omnyouton orbs, Juubi bijudama ( cross thousands of kilometers extremly quickly, Hashirama running across a mountain range in moments) Kakashi using kamui in gedou mazou's arm near instantly etc,juubito blitzing naruto and sasuke ( naruto has sage mode sensing).... - these feats put god teir naruto characters from from a low-end mach 150+ ( hashirama,madara, VOTE) all the way to mach 1,000 + movement speed and mach 20,000 attack speed (shell bijudama, omnyouton orbs)
speed, like in most manga, I would love a in depth explanation because it is so variable and subjective ( to the perspective of the drawing, angel, forground, background all affect how a feat is calced)

-I would love clarification on some specific sealing justu. I know fuinjustu can bind (seal) things which makes sense (storage scrolls, barriers, curse seals etc make sense)-How do exploision tags work? can you seal a exploisn for future use- why don't ninja seal other justu instead ( jiriaya using a exploision tag based off of ammaterasu) Futhermore, how does a sealing justu allow for instantaneous movement-do you seal yourself into another dimension that doesnot have time-
The best I can come up with is that the seal (mark) isnot what allows for teleportation -minato acutally has another justu for teleportation, the seal only stores his chakra which tells him where to teleport to.-as far as I can tell, kishi said sealing can be used to seal things ( makes sense) and then without explanation somehow the ability to seal stuff- allows for teleportation.

-I would like further explanation of a bijudama - I know its a ratio of white/black chakra -but white and black chakra have never been mentioned before what are they-where does it comes from? If they are ying and yang then how is a bijudama different than omnyouton? -My theory is that omnyouton requires 50/50 ratio- also, what properties does a bijudama have- when does it expand, how heavy are the large ones?. since bijudama are now always mentioned in Naruto matchups ( its his strongest attack) I would like info on how they work exactly-

I would like a update on Naruto's sage mode abilties, I know he has gotten better with using it - how far is his sensing, how strong, how durable, etc...

Lastly bit for naruto- what is going on with BSM- how strong is he in that mode? -Sage chakra enhances nin,gen, and tai justu, so how much stronger is BSM compared to BM- if you take the explanation the kurama is made of sage chakra ( juubi) - and that the avatar forms in BM and BSM are roughly equal,- but- BSM Naruto ( without kuruma avatar just cloak) should be much stronger than regular BSM- ( BM is external- sage mode internal) for example in BM cloak his justu don't get stronger ( he just gets access to bijudama) in BM cloak, he just gets faster and stronger

( the point above basically states that kuruma + sage mode is probably not much stronger since his chakra is already nature like, however Naruto in BSM with only his cloak not the avatar should be much stronger than normal BM because, normally BM makes his nomal body faster and stronger,- in sage mode, BSM the kyubi chakra would be making a faster version of naruto even more agile.

-for example his rasengans ( in Biju Mode cloak) arenot any bigger than his regular rasengans, his rasenshurken in BM is the same size as a regular rasenshurken.

This statement proves that BM chakra only enhances his physical abilties- speed etc... not his internal chakra,-so, technically since BM enhances Naruto's body ( mabey this is because he only has kurumas yang), in sage mode, BM should be enhancing a stronger body ( in sage mode Naruto's body is stronger)-

-The truth is that even though BM and Sage mode are similar types of chakra ( juubi chakra) they enhance different things, sage mode enhances naruto's internal chakra-his justu all get a massive increase), while BM only seems to enhance his (external) or physical body. The point is that Sage Mode enhances Naruto's speed, by making his whole body stronger from the inside, BM has shown only to make him stronger from the outside- so if naruto combines them both, the abilties should be additive, not overlaping.
- Think of BM as a enhancing suit, ( similar to venom) in that if you wear it it makes you faster by x amount, ( this is proven because kyubi chakra Lee ( few chakra tails ) is faster than kyubi chakra naruto ( a few tails) - just like lee is faster than naruto, and kyubi mode lee is faster than kyubi mode naruto, sage mode naruto + BM should be faster than regular naruto + biju mode.
-Compare BM to the raikage's lightning aura, if the raikage had sage mode he would be even faster than normal- Naruto should be the same ( since kurama chakra isnot internal ( his base chakra is still what fuels his techniques etc)

Kishi should differenciate exactly how much stronger BSM Naruto is- it should be a massive power up, not a tool only used to harm juubito.

At the very least- If you disagree that BSM naruto should be stronger and faster-you should atleast believe BSM should have stronger justu

In conclusion:
BSM naruto should get all his RM mode feats + sage mode feats ( rasengan planet-etc...) with sage mode sized rasengans.
BSM cloaked Naruto- at the very least- should have access to senjustu enhanced rasengans + the versatility of the chakra arms ( which enables new justu to be used)

last point, I want kishi to explain amaterasu- how hot is it? what are its characteristic ( sasuke has cut with it)

PS
-Its kinda a joke but kishi needs to explain the substitution technique- why don't ninja use it, how does it work exactly?



My gosh that's long.... I've read some of it. Yeah, sealing needs to be explained along with Minato's other jutsu. Substitution had me scratching my head forever. The databook claimed Amamterasu is as hot as the sun. I've actually have analyzed BSM's feats. It's quite stronger than BM.(either that or juubi jins just stink) Want examples?
 

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Read again. He said it can destroy "all things in the universe", meaning, it can cut/blast through every type of material like shields, walls, mountains etc., but of course it won't destroy the whole universe with a slash.
 

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The first statement is clearly hyperbole. PS was stalemated by Hashirama's wood god, so it's probably just hype seeing as PS had just been introduced at the time. You know, emphasizing Madara's power and shit.
 

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I'd like clarification myself and we have the upcoming final databook for that (is that even confirmed?) but to be honest Kishi doesn't use the databook as an actual encyclopedia, he prefers to use it as an official hyping book. With ambiguously phrased powers (Yata Mirror, Kamui) and lack of limitations, maybe getting clarification wouldn't be the best idea.

I think using your imagination on some of this stuff is better, making it your own interpretation is a lot more fun and less brainhurt.
 

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My gosh that's long.... I've read some of it. Yeah, sealing needs to be explained along with Minato's other jutsu. Substitution had me scratching my head forever. The databook claimed Amamterasu is as hot as the sun. I've actually have analyzed BSM's feats. It's quite stronger than BM.(either that or juubi jins just stink) Want examples?

I know its long, but so is the list of things kishi should explain.

Furthermore, I would like more explanation of the rasengan. Usually, it is shown to grind/tear away- However, sometimes it explodes- Minato against tobi )

Kishi said Jiriayas sage mode giant rasengan drills holes in mountains-which is possible if they explode, considering Minato's hand sized rasengan explodes and it destroys a large part of the ground. ( look back at how big SM rasengans are- Naruto makes them as big as summoned creatures.

Rasengan is the human varient of the biju bomb, so it makes sense that a rasengan explodes-however it is rarely shown to do that in the manga.
The problem with the concept that rasengans explode ( which they do, but kishi never shows Naruto's exploding)- is that it makes Naruto way to powerfull. Imagine Naruto at full power making thousands of clones and they all use senpo odama rasengan ( should be around 12x larger than what he did against madara, considering he divided his chakra 12 times)- shadow clone technique has been explained by kishi vary clearly-it divided the chakra evenly and their is no indication that the user can control how much chakra a specific clone gets.

lastly- I would love to hear a breakdown about BSM Naruto ( I guess you can do that over pm? or make a thread- if their is one, I would appreciate a link)- In the fight against juubito he didnot look impressive, however I don't nomally do calcs.
I suppose just fighting against a being as strong as juubito is impressive and is bound to include some amazing feats, cause juubito is a monster.
 
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1)That's hyperbole to emphasize on Madara's strength. Art with words are common in fiction.

2) Relevant and speedy characters (Gai, Lee, Kakashi, Sasuke, Itachi etc.) are hypersonic even wo enhancements.

3) Depends on how perfect the sage is.

4) Even Mei tanks huge punches from Susanoo or Buddha, Kisame smiles when his chest literally blowns apart, Lee walks out, covers a massive distance and fights right after a life and death surgery that effects half of his body; when we have to wait several weeks for a broken bone to conjunct. They are obviously abnormal.
 

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well i can answer number 1.

Assumeing the translation is correct, he says "I can smash all things in the universe with a stroke of the sword"

There are 2 explanations.

1. He was over exagerating. Someone may say "Usain bolt runs faster than the wind" to exagerate and convey that usain bolt is really really fast.(for those who dont know, usain bolt runs 100 yards in like 8 seconds. He is argueably the fastest man currently)

2. He said "smash all things in the universe" NOT "smash the universe"
So simply he means to say, that there is no material in the universe that he cannot smash with the blade.


He CERTAINLY did not mean he can destroy the universe.(although universe, changes in size depending on peoples perspectives. For example to a island colony of primitive people(who cannot go out into the ocean) The island is their universe. What they see and observe is all they know.)
 
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