Sasuke's PS != Madara's PS

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BOLD: Another statement I don't get, when exactly is the time to show his best?
Underline: I'm not comparing the characters, just the jutsus



Was talking more on the 25 Susanoos
That was w/ Hashi DNA, edo (never ending chakra), and smaller than Sasuke's
 

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Regardless,EMS Uchiha Madara stalemated Senju Hashirama in their VOTE battle so his chakra pool is still far beyond anything Sasuke can hope at this point.
That only means that Madara could keep his up longer. It doesn't mean it would diminish the scale of the technique.
 

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Susano'o is susano'o.
All susano'o of comparable stages have shown the same size, defence and power.

Rigcage is ribcage.
skeletal is skeletal.
Armored is armored.
Stabalized is stabalized.

I don't understand why no one on NV can infer or deduce anything. How did you guys even make it out of school?
Sasuke's ribcage

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If susanoos were always equal with each other, then Madara's ribcage should have had some broken parts the instant Naruto hit him with massive ransengan.


That being said, I think Sasuke has PS and is at least half of Madara's. Whether or not it's the same level of power is debatable, but Sasuke does have abilities with susanoo that Madara does not.
 

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That only means that Madara could keep his up longer. It doesn't mean it would diminish the scale of the technique.
I didn't mean that and Iam not talking about whether Sasuke's Susanoo can be as strong as Madara's or not.It is not wise to say that at this point, just saying Sasukes's pool is smaller and What if it requires more chakra than Sasuke's own reserves?
Another point is that Uchiha's are said to have stronger chakra and IMO Madara managed to stalemate Hashirama because of his strong chakra,What if Sasuke's chakra is not as strong as Madara's?

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If susanoos were always equal with each other, then Madara's ribcage should have had some broken parts the instant Naruto hit him with massive ransengan.


That being said, I think Sasuke has PS and is at least half of Madara's. Whether or not it's the same level of power is debatable, but Sasuke does have abilities with susanoo that Madara does not.
Not a Valid argument Bro.
Rasengan =/= Raikages attack and more importantly I can't see any broken parts in that scan.
 
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I didn't mean that and Iam not talking about whether Sasuke's Susanoo can be as strong as Madara's or not.It is not wise to say that at this point, just saying Sasukes's pool is smaller and What if it requires more chakra than Sasuke's own reserves?
Another point is that Uchiha's are said to have stronger chakra and IMO Madara managed to stalemate Hashirama because of his strong chakra,What if Sasuke's chakra is not as strong as Madara's?
PS is a stabilized version of EMS yamabusa susanoo. Susanoo undertakes a flamelike appearance which shows chakra leaking from the technique hence unstable. PS lacks the flame like appearance because its stable, which means it doesn't waste as much chakra. PS should actually be less taxing than EMS yamabusa susanoo

And as far as chakra strength goes, Sasuke' s is comparable to Madara's, they have been saying the same throughout the series, atm the only difference is the size of the chakra pool.
Physical energy+ spiritual energy= chakra/ stamina. If Madara could last 3 days that proves he had more physical energy than Sasuke and therefore more chakra and stamina. That has nothing to do with power.
 
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really? remember when madara slaced 5 mountains with one sword in his fight vs hashirama. That fodder susanno cant even damage madaras ps , only hashirama can do something to it
 

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PS is a stabilized version of EMS yamabusa susanoo. Susanoo undertakes a flamelike appearance which shows chakra leaking from the technique hence unstable. PS lacks the flame like appearance because its stable, which means it doesn't waste as much chakra. PS should actually be less taxing than EMS yamabusa susanoo
That means a more powerful version of Susanoo takes less amount of chakra than the weaker one which makes no sense.Even if ur right that dosen't mean that Sasuke can pull it as even Madara's unstabilized version of Susanoo is a far beyond what we have seen from Sasuke.
 
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That means a more powerful version of Susanoo takes less amount of chakra than the weaker one which makes no sense.Even if ur right that dosen't mean that Sasuke can pull it as even Madara's unstabilized version of Susanoo is a far beyond what we have seen from Sasuke.
Well, can you show me a single scan where it says Madara added more chakra to create PS. It only stated that it stabilized. Other than that Susanoo users can adjust size and Sasuke has only has fought Zetsu in v4 why would he need to go full scale.
 

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That was w/ Hashi DNA, edo (never ending chakra), and smaller than Sasuke's
What was smaller? The 25 legged Susanoos? Each one was at least 5x (and that's being generous)
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and Sasuke was about the size of his Susanoos midsection meaning at most it's 3x his height and Amy is taller than Sasuke so...
 

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I didn't mean that and Iam not talking about whether Sasuke's Susanoo can be as strong as Madara's or not.It is not wise to say that at this point, just saying Sasukes's pool is smaller and What if it requires more chakra than Sasuke's own reserves?
Another point is that Uchiha's are said to have stronger chakra and IMO Madara managed to stalemate Hashirama because of his strong chakra,What if Sasuke's chakra is not as strong as Madara's?


Not a Valid argument Bro.
Rasengan =/= Raikages attack and more importantly I can't see any broken parts in that scan.


Yes it does. A much smaller ransengan can do this.

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Then again, massive ransengna never did explode against Madara anyway.

Also, look closer at the scan. One of the ribs is falling off.
 

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What was smaller? The 25 legged Susanoos? Each one was at least 5x (and that's being generous)
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and Sasuke was about the size of his Susanoos midsection meaning at most it's 3x his height and Amy is taller than Sasuke so...
Manga> anime and Sasuke's was shown equal height to BM
Also I do remember saying that he is Edo, right???
 
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Well, can you show me a single scan where it says Madara added more chakra to create PS. It only stated that it stabilized. Other than that Susanoo users can adjust size and Sasuke has only has fought Zetsu in v4 why would he need to go full scale.
Lmao,what kind of logic it is? No one ever said that PS needs more chakra than V1 Susanoo,does that mean they both uses same amount of chakra?

Yes it does. A much smaller ransengan can do this.

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Then again, massive ransengna never did explode against Madara anyway.

Also, look closer at the scan. One of the ribs is falling off.
Still won't change anything as the type of attacks that u were comparing as totally different from eachother and Ya I saw that.
 
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Manga > anime and Sasuke's was shown equal height to BM
Also I do remember saying that he is Edo, right???
It was the same in the manga as well(on mypphone so can't find page) , Sasuke's was the same size as the low on chakra naruto's BM which was smaller than the first time he used it. But this is about madara Susanoo compared to Sasuke's and as I and others said being edo doesn't give you more chakra, it replenishes it faster than if you were alive
 

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It was the same in the manga as well(on mypphone so can't find page) , Sasuke's was the same size as the low on chakra naruto's BM which was smaller than the first time he used it. But this is about madara Susanoo compared to Sasuke's and as I and others said being edo doesn't give you more chakra, it replenishes it faster than if you were alive
But it does make your chakra inexhaustible, if your chakra keeps being replenished then u can make any number of clones. Also Naruto went into BM and smacked down Madara's susanoo and it appeared the same size as the other bijuu, he hasn't been healed or replenished his chakra since

Lmao,what kind of logic it is? No one ever said that PS needs more chakra than V1 Susanoo,does that mean they both uses same amount of chakra?
Actually, they did, Oonoki noticed a huge difference in chakra from v3 to v4, but as I have said he was simply astounded that the abundance chakra that was v4 became stable.

The display of chakra from Sasuke's MS yamabusa susanoo was also enough to scare Kakashi sh**less

and v2 was enough to break Danzo's CM. Kishi shouldn't have to spoon feed u
 
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Different susanoo's cannot be compared, Madara's susanoo has its own feats and they are only applicaple to Madara. that should be obvious. Sure, both Minato and naruto can use rasengan, but for the longest Minato's was still stronger.
-How can you compare susanoo's? They are completly different, sasuke has a amaterasu sword for crists sake, his susanoo is different than madara's. Just becuase Madara cut multiple mountains with PS sword swing shockwave- doesnot mean sasuke can- They are using different swords, should be ovious.
Since the feats that Sasuke's perfect susanoo got are unquantifiable, you cant just scale sasuke's PS to Madara's.
First, Sasuke wrapped his PS around a kyubi that is half the size that Madara wrapped around, considering that- you cannot assume sasuke can make a larger susanoo without evidence, at best you can powerscale and say that sasuke's PS is half as strong as Madara's.
 
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