Alive Minato

[Sennin of Logic]

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You're forgetting the paralysis technique, Orochimaru can freeze Minato in his tracks if he dares approach him, followed by Tobirama's suiton. In the first scenario, Orochimaru takes it medium difficulty for sure, we'll see about your arguments for the second one though.

Are you talking about the neck bite curse mark? I can't counter what a technique I don't know. But let me introduce another tactic.

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Now yes, before you say it, Orochimaru did dodge chakra arms in the ground. But, there are 2 ways Minato can make this work. Either A. use a shadow clone and have the real him distract Orochimaru while having the clone do this, cornering him, or B. the simply fact that the chakra arms are faster than Orochimaru as clearly seen when Orochimaru was already far away from them initially, but they suddenly got close.


What does this do? This means Minato can use chakra transfer.(the same jutsu he and Naruto used to enable him to teleport the entire alliance) You can see where I'm going with this. If he does this, it means that he can teleport to Orochimaru any time he likes or teleport Orochimaru to one of his kunai. Unlike the marks, it won't go away from oral rebirth as it's bonded with Orochimaru's chakra itself. Chakra arms can be used as the medium for chakra transfer.

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So this jutsu dooms Orochimaru. I won't be able to post in a while, so just know that if I'm not replying, it's not admitting defeat.

 

[Avinash012]

Orochimaru has some of the largest chakra reserves in the manga considering he SPAMS summonings something that take alot of chakra. Added on to his current Senju bodied I would say it's doubled. Chakra is far from a problem. Eight-Branches being stronger is relevant, it was slow due to being attached to Sasuke, but I won't use that point. Even it is slower, you're still forgetting Orochimaru can pop out and use various jutsu to harm Minato. Bunta isn't going to hold up against EB due to it being Orochimaru in a big hydra form, Orochimaru can also use shadow clones to merge with the Gamabunta and sneak attack Minato while being untraced.

I know that his chakra pool is one of the best but still dude is using super high level jutsu's which costs him great deal of chakra so U should take that into consideration. Nothing suggests that it is slower because it was attached to Sasuke though u got a point there but still I can't see how it can move that faster with that body.I don't get what kind of attacks Orochimaru can use to harm Minato while he is in his 8B form but don't forgot that Minato can also target Orochimaru's body and dodge his attacks as he has clear speed advantage over Orochimaru.
What is that shadow clones stuff? I don't get it. Minato can sense clones and he ain't making clones when he is in 8B mode without Minato noticing it so that point is useless.

 

[Joker]

Holy crap, hold on, I can't deal with three of you

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Holy crap, hold on, I can't deal with three of you

I know the feeling. Same happened to me in Minato VS Kabuto. Now you know why I was worn down to the point where I made some dumb statments.(toads shouting) By the way, this is what I meant by all cylinders.

 

[Lucidus]

Holy crap, hold on, I can't deal with three of you

lol just answer slowly

i will agree with you to the point that the battle can go either way.. orochimaru has been shown to be able to deal with a hell of a lot and keep standing which is why i think the battle could go either way.. however i believe minato's sealing techs, frog song and evasion using FTG would be his key to winning.. however you do have a point that if minato does get paralysed then it falls to orochimarus win..

 

[Avinash012]

Holy crap, hold on, I can't deal with three of you

Take it easy bro,feel free to post ur counter whenever u want.Iam currently suffering from fever and it is 3:30 AM over here so I can't continue this,I'll answer the posts later.

 

[miromiro]

Orochimaru stomps.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Wait. I just noticed that OP said alive Minato which means no Kyuubi and at the same time restricted Kurama's chakra AND allowed KCM usage. What the hell?

Alive Minato did have Kyuubi, but he died right after he got it. And look his gets KCM in a completely dif scenario.​

 

[Bogard]

Minato slaughters him

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Minato slaughters him

I agree that Minato wins, but let's not forget there's also an edo hokage, so it's not going to be a stomp for Minato.

 

[Bogard]

I agree that Minato wins, but let's not forget there's also an edo hokage, so it's not going to be a stomp for Minato.

Edo tensei is restricted

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Edo tensei is restricted

In one scenario. The second one has KCM Minato and 1 edo hokage. I already took care of scenario 2.(above) You might as well handle scenario 1. You may use my chakra transfer strategy.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol....ever since Minato was confirmed to be a Senjutsu user who trained at Mount Myoboku with the Toad Sages, its been clear that he shits on Orochimaru..Base Minato would still beat him.

He'd win the second scenario as well.

 

[shelke]

I am with Godly, Orochimaru takes this.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Alive Minato doesn't posses KCM, but for the sake of your thread, i'll say he does.
Orochimaru takes this Medium difficulty by summoning Tobirama to get rid of the speed advantage, they collaborate by a series of quick attacks, and Kusanagi spams utilized by various snakes to wrap this up (snake pun).
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Glad a thread was made by one of my lawful quotes
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No for the original battle, Orochimaru takes it medium difficulty.

Tobirama keeps up with SM-KCM-better_shushin-better_base_speed minato? Laughable.

OT: Minato wins easily since you added on KCM. K-SM boosts speed, defense and sensing to extreme levels ontop of his high speed and sensing feats, orochimaru is out class and out of luck. Minato can also summon ma and pa to help decimate oro.

 

[Joker]

Tobirama keeps up with SM-KCM-better_shushin-better_base_speed minato? Laughable.

OT: Minato wins easily since you added on KCM. K-SM boosts speed, defense and sensing to extreme levels ontop of his high speed and sensing feats, orochimaru is out class and out of luck. Minato can also summon ma and pa to help decimate oro.

Uhm, Minato can merge SM and KCM? Scans.

 

[shelke]

^ fanfiction is more like it.

 

[Joker]

^ fanfiction is more like it.

Obviously, I feel like that's what they're forced to resort too.. v_v

 

[Penguin]

Orochimaru cannot force the 2nd Hokage to do squat first off. It took Orochimaru, to paralyze Tobirama, all of Hashirama's cells. That was just to paralyze him, not force him to attack other people. You might want to give Orochimaru Hiruzen as an edo, but he might be able to take on Minato by himself.

 

[Nattana]

Orochimaru cannot force the 2nd Hokage to do squat first off. It took Orochimaru, to paralyze Tobirama, all of Hashirama's cells. That was just to paralyze him, not force him to attack other people. You might want to give Orochimaru Hiruzen as an edo, but he might be able to take on Minato by himself.

First off, Orochimaru paralysed Tobirama with his basic restraint. He said himself he could strengthen it if he wanted to. Also, Orochimaru can simply erase his Edos' minds to turn them into killing machines that work under his control. So please, do not turn into another Oro hater sayin he has no control over his Edo.