Minato strongest Kage?

[Shadow Phantasm]

I highly doubt Minato would not know about his rival's father's past. He'd eventually figure it out. As for Mu, how's he going to suppress the chakra signature of jinton itself? He's actively sending out chakra in a ninjutsu.

Nobody knew about the Raikage's weakness except Gyuuki and Naruto.Minato may be smart but I highly doubt he would be able to make the Third Raikage injure himself when the latter is trying to go for the kill.

 

[Joker]

I highly doubt Minato would not know about his rival's father's past. He'd eventually figure it out. As for Mu, how's he going to suppress the chakra signature of jinton itself? He's actively sending out chakra in a ninjutsu.

I assume our discussion is over..?

 

[Erebus]

Nah man, Hashi stomps, as much as i'd like to tell you why, i stink and need to take a shower.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Except the fact he lost the mode after getting hit unlike Jiraiya and Naruto who were able to stay in SM.

Or he just stopped gathering senjutsu -_-

Are you really going to try and tell me that Minato became a perfect sage but can't maintain it for more than 5 seconds, really? Be serious now.

 

[Penguin]

Lmfao Minato doesn't have Frog Kata. Naruto was said to have surpassed Minato and Jiraiya by Fukasaku, implying that all three of them had SM.

SM Naruto - Enhanced strength, durability, reactions, speed, frog kata, sensing, doesn't need Shima and Fukasaku.

SM Minato - Enhanced strength, durability, reactions, speed, sensing, doesn't need Shima and Fukasaku. [Just guessing on speed and reactions part.]

SM Jiraiya - Enhanced strength, durability, reactions, speed, needs Shima and Fukasaku.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Lmfao Minato doesn't have Frog Kata. Naruto was said to have surpassed Minato and Jiraiya by Fukasaku, implying that all three of them had SM.

SM Naruto - Enhanced strength, durability, reactions, speed, frog kata, sensing, doesn't need Shima and Fukasaku.

SM Minato - Enhanced strength, durability, reactions, speed, sensing, doesn't need Shima and Fukasaku. [Just guessing on speed and reactions part.]

SM Jiraiya - Enhanced strength, durability, reactions, speed, needs Shima and Fukasaku.

Not saying he does have frog kata, which he probably does if he's a perfect sage - lets be honest.

But you all said Minato couldn't use shadow clones, KCM, isn't a sensor, can't use chakra arms, doesn't have sage mode (lol). But of course NB always ends up wrong when Minato is concerned.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Nobody knew about the Raikage's weakness except Gyuuki and Naruto.Minato may be smart but I highly doubt he would be able to make the Third Raikage injure himself when the latter is trying to go for the kill.

Why not? His son is faster than him, and base Minato completely outclassed him.

Note, for the kunai argument, take a look at how how Naruto threw a gigantic summons.

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I'd say that's about as high as Muu.

I know, I don't think it's debatable in the slightest.

Actually, I could. Not saying Minato's better, but if challenged, I could make a solid argument for Minato.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Or he just stopped gathering senjutsu -_-

Are you really going to try and tell me that Minato became a perfect sage but can't maintain it for more than 5 seconds, really? Be serious now.

Once you have gathered the senjutsu chakra then SM does'nt go away.Sorry but Minato lost his "perefect SM" after several hits while Jiraiya and Naruto could take more than that and maintain their SM.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Muu can fly....KCM Naruto tried to blitz and he avoided it.KCM Naruto was also noted to have the same speed as Minato when using FTG and there is no way Minato would be able to throw kunais that high to reach Muu.

Naruto uses speed, Minato uses teleportation. If Naruto managed to land a hit, his teleporting father should find this all the more easier. The only similar thing about Naruto and Minato's speed is that they both make yellow flashes when travelling, that is why they were compared -- though, you cannot get faster than instantaneous. Heck, Yamato even said Naruto wasn't on Minato's level at the time. You make it sound as if Muu's going to be camping in the clouds, which is quite ridiculous seeing as how he's never done such a thing in the manga, and neither has any other flying shinobi in this manga. He's going to reveal himself eventually, and when he does he gets blitzed.

 

[Joker]

Why not? His son is faster than him, and base Minato completely outclassed him.

Note, for the kunai argument, take a look at how how Naruto threw a gigantic summons.

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I'd say that's about as high as Muu.




Actually, I could. Not saying Minato's better, but if challenged, I could make a solid argument for Minato.

There's a VS thread with two scenarios containing the two.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Why not? His son is faster than him, and base Minato completely outclassed him.

Note, for the kunai argument, take a look at how how Naruto threw a gigantic summons.

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I'd say that's about as high as Muu.




Actually, I could. Not saying Minato's better, but if challenged, I could make a solid argument for Minato.

Except you would have to take into account the wind direction and trajectory,throwing kunai high in the air hoping they reach their target would require alot of luck.

 

[KingHashirama]

Base Hashirama is still superior.. by far.

 

[Penguin]

Not saying he does have frog kata, which he probably does if he's a perfect sage - lets be honest.

But you all said Minato couldn't use shadow clones, KCM, isn't a sensor, can't use chakra arms, doesn't have sage mode (lol). But of course NB always ends up wrong when Minato is concerned.

Because he didn't have the feats. Of course fanboys will say he has it when he doesn't have the feats. Sage Mode Minato was the 2nd biggest ass pull of the series.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Naruto uses speed, Minato uses teleportation. If Naruto managed to land a hit, his teleporting father should find this all the more easier. The only similar thing about Naruto and Minato's speed is that they both make yellow flashes when travelling, that is why they were compared -- though, you cannot get faster than instantaneous. Heck, Yamato even said Naruto wasn't on Minato's level at the time. You make it sound as if Muu's going to be camping in the clouds, which is quite ridiculous seeing as how he's never done such a thing in the manga, and neither has any other flying shinobi in this manga. He's going to reveal himself eventually, and when he does he gets blitzed.

Muu reacted to Naruto blitzing him and was regarded as being one of the best sensors.He could do the same to Minato since FTG can be countered if the opponent has high reflexes like Madara and Killer Bee.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Because he didn't have the feats. Of course fanboys will say he has it when he doesn't have the feats. Sage Mode Minato was the 2nd biggest ass pull of the series.

What was the first one?

 

[salamander uchiha]

Only for a set amount of times. Oral rebirth drains a lot of chakra and his stamina is no better than Sasuke's. Eventually, Orochimaru reaches his limit and Minato kills him for real. By the way, by your logic, Orochimaru>Hashirama since he uses physical attacks, and we all know Hashirama's superior.

Who said Orochimaru needs oral rebirth nothing foderato has can hurt him because of his durability.
Only reaper seal if that and oral rebirth breaks out and Foderato solos hisself.
also we have seen the limits of minatos stamina summon toad teleport beast ball food cart destroyer and shift kurama he was gassed. Orochimarus is leagues above him.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Except you would have to take into account the wind direction and trajectory,throwing kunai high in the air hoping they reach their target would require alot of luck.

Minato's kunai are noted to be heavier than normal kunai, so it would be resistant to wind. Plus, wind is natural energy. Given that he's a sage that senses natural energy, he'd probably be able to adjust the angles anyway.

Who said Orochimaru needs oral rebirth nothing foderato has can hurt him because of his durability.
Only reaper seal if that and oral rebirth breaks out and Foderato solos hisself.

Minato's base ransengan.

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What a SM small ransengan can do.

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Do you really think Orochimaru tanks that? Do you really think he's more durable than Juubito? If so, fanboy confirmed.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Minato's kunai are noted to be heavier than normal kunai, so it would be resistant to wind. Plus, wind is natural energy. Given that he's a sage that senses natural energy, he'd probably be able to adjust the angles anyway.

Being heavy would effect the distance of how the kunai travels as well as making it drop down quicker.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Muu reacted to Naruto blitzing him and was regarded as being one of the best sensors.He could do the same to Minato since FTG can be countered if the opponent has high reflexes like Madara and Killer Bee.

Naruto attacked in mid air, without using his devastating shunshin (

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[Gold Lightning]

Once you have gathered the senjutsu chakra then SM does'nt go away.Sorry but Minato lost his "perefect SM" after several hits while Jiraiya and Naruto could take more than that and maintain their SM.

Compare a zombie who isn't at full power to the likes of alive Jiraya and Naruto -_-

Did Jiraya and Naruto get hit by a 10 tails Jinchuuriki Sage of 6 paths with Senju + Uchiha DNA with sage mode. Because I'm pretty sure Madara is the strongest being we have ever seen in battle. Do you know how powerful Madara's hit was, or are you forgetting just how strong he is.

Whether you like it or not, Minato perfected Sage mode and it doesn't last only a few seconds.