Kishimoto directs his hate to Sasuke

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Based on the traditions in Japan- the nail that sticks out gets hammered down (kakashi), in other words; Kishi decided to make Sasuke- the nail that stuck out from the rest, a prodigy who was >born< a prodigy, and as a result of his blessings he thinks everyone else is flawed- made as one who is indifferent to the rest of the academy and in Japanese thought (including isolationism, and the whole holding-hands-imperialist-Nazi influence, & clan mindset) they display fear and scowl those who disagree with and are indifferent to the common ways. They have developed automatic prejudices and (sometimes innocent) racism toward foreigners and natives who look or act different from them. Here is an example of what DIFFERENT people face in Japanese school


[It was only two months before I was leaving Japan when I saw, firsthand, otherwise sweet kids turn into stomach-churning brutes, reveling in the hilarity of harassing a fellow student. The target, they had decided, was not intelligent, and so during group work they would speak to him in that slurred, tongue-heavy way used to mock kids with Down’s Syndrome.
skip.........
Not just one or two kids, five of them. The victim would try to work through the conversation anyway, but the kids were relentless. When he finally walked away, another kid – apparently angry at this kid’s >>social weakness<< – pushed him into a wall and wouldn’t let him move.
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I was racked with guilt and concern. The Japanese teacher said if she intervenes, the bullied student “gets angry,” because the teacher is acknowledging that he is DIFFERENT. She tries to give him positive feedback, but that backfires, too – the kids see him as a teacher’s pet. I couldn’t do group activities in that class if it meant the kid was going to suffer through abuse.]

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In other words Kishi still holds on to traditional Japanese thought which is many times just superstitious, cruel and fearful of anything displaying difference (remember that FEAR is TAUGHT to us and so is discipline-think of how it was actually Itachi's discipline which influenced Sasuke to train hard and be like his brother rather than to coast along by using his sharingan). I think he consistently misses Sasuke's character development and throughout the story he numerously hammered down Sasuke so that he appeared as someone who couldn't do anything without the blessings of his bloodine and just used everyone else for his own benefit like Karin and it ends in the present where he was just One-Paneled with no hope. The whole curse of hatred thing drives the whole idea of this Bloodline-DNA-Astrological Sign thing that these characters are predestined to act a certain way and Sasuke's rare AB bloodtype is what's responsible for his rare blessings, his emo-attitude, and why he should be hammered down by the common A, B, and O's.

Kishi is shitting on Sasuke! Notice how his role as a Konoha supporter had been so insignificant and confusing- it's because Kishi is not trying to let Sasuke understand Naruto because he's dividing them and designing them based on such limited predestined ways.
 
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Or Sasukes just a ****
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As interesting as your story is I am pretty sure u are taking your hate and interpreting it as Kishimoto's. I don't really see Sasuke as a bad guy and even Kishi stated as such.

There was meaning in Sasuke getting each of his power ups and his development is one of the most interesting in the series ( my opinion)

PS: Yes, its sad there are bullies, but its the same everywhere
 
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Or Sasukes just a ****
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We never get to hear anyone's inner dialogue or thoughts except Naruto in the ****ing story, of course we're going to think sasuke's just a **** since he is the only one that's placed in just as much importance as Naruto but we never know what he's up to or his feelings. He just looks like someone who deserves to be one-paneled, it's kishi's expressed hate for people like that.
 

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So you're saying Sasuke being "different" is why Kishi is hating him?
 

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So you're saying Sasuke being "different" is why Kishi is hating him?

Just thought of it that way, but wouldn't that be weird seeing how Kishi is the person who made Sasuke
 

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He just looks like someone who deserves to be one-paneled.

Ah that's what this is about, butthurt...

I'm sure Kishi has plans for Sasuke and he'll get some power up that will let you dribble all over his d!(k again soon.
 

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As interesting as your story is I am pretty sure u are taking your hate and interpreting it as Kishimoto's. I don't really see Sasuke as a bad guy and even Kishi stated as such.

There was meaning in Sasuke getting each of his power ups and his development is one of the most interesting in the series ( my opinion)

PS: Yes, its sad there are bullies, but its the same everywhere

I don't hate Sasuke at all, I just hate how his character could have been given a better character development, otherwise I think the concept of his character and his techniques are cool.
 

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Ah that's what this is about, butthurt...

I'm sure Kishi has plans for Sasuke and he'll get some power up that will let you dribble all over his d!(k again soon.

I don't understand why you all think I hate Sasuke; let me go right out and say I like him better than Naruto atm I could give af less that he got killed the way he did because I respect him more than Naruto.
 

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funny fact: sasuke has real character development in shipuuden only on dark side... after this sasuke just regressed for part one himself
 

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We never get to hear anyone's inner dialogue or thoughts except Naruto in the ****ing story, of course we're going to think sasuke's just a **** since he is the only one that's placed in just as much importance as Naruto but we never know what he's up to or his feelings. He just looks like someone who deserves to be one-paneled, it's kishi's expressed hate for people like that.

You sound like a crazy Sasuke fanboy trying to rationalize why Kishi made a character which is baseline meant to be a ****, and then built around it, just like Naruto is base line a good guy and built around it, and Sakura is baseline a dedicated person and built around it, Kakashi, a mysterious mentor, and built around it, I could go on, but this is how you write long term novels, you get the basic ideas and then make complex webs and interlink their stories.
 

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Oh. Sasuke is not out cast: he's the native one..... And i doubt kishi eva thought abt those japanese traditions... U_U
 

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You sound like a crazy Sasuke fanboy trying to rationalize why Kishi made a character which is baseline meant to be a ****, and then built around it, just like Naruto is base line a good guy and built around it, and Sakura is baseline a dedicated person and built around it, Kakashi, a mysterious mentor, and built around it, I could go on, but this is how you write long term novels, you get the basic ideas and then make complex webs and interlink their stories.

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Why are all the Narutobase members I hate the most up in my thread right now? XD where did you mother****ers come from?
 

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only character Kishi hates is Neji and Yamato
 

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Why are all the Narutobase members I hate the most up in my thread right now? XD where did you mother****ers come from?
So I'm seeing...
"All you people disagreeing with me, get out of my thread!!" what are you? Arizona?
 

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But kishi has constantly hyped up the uchiha, and constantly shows that konoha (and most nations) praise their prodigies. Kishi isn't intentionally 'hammering' down sasuke he is just demonstrating themes of his manga through him.

Itachi once told Naruto that when you obtain power you become arrogant and shun other peoples help, just like Madara did. He then went on to say people that do this are doomed to fail. Sasuke did just that and in fact Kishi has been building Sasuke as madara's foil for awhile now. Sasuke gained power in his eyes, but it came at a cost. He basically threw strategy out the window and started spamming sharingan techniques to no end. His over reliance and arrogance is what has got him into his current predicament - not kishi intentionally picking on Sasuke because he was gifted.


only character Kishi hates is Neji and Yamato
Still can't believe Kishi managed to literally kill Neji, a branch family member, with a branch. Thats some serious irony there....
 
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And now Minato as well.

Minato was already dead so anything he did as an edo tensei just gave us more hype about him with SM and KCM. He had to kill off somebody for it to be believable and he chose Neji. All that happened to Naruto was getting Kyuubi extracted but his struggle was long, Sasuke was not given such a chance in most his fights without having to be mortally wounded and healed by Karin.
 
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