Naruto compared to Madara

[Kiro man]

In this thread I'm gonna write about Naruto's and Madara's visions of peace.

Obito was actually saying the truth to Konan about Nagato losing hope for his dreamworld.That's why in his last moments
he had to forget himself and nothing but to believe in Naruto's ways of making peace.

Naruto doesn't completely understand people's pain and the hatred generated,because he's too young to know that much.Is not enough just to see and trying to understand;You need to feel it.The older you get,the stronger your feeling
gets,and that feeling is something Naruto didn't experience.

Madara is the best example.Not only that he got his brother killed by Senju,but as a clan leader he couldn't do anything
to warn the other Uchiha members about the outcome.He cared too much about his clan,and his words had no meaning
anymore.Indeed the alliance was a wrong step for them,and an opportunity for the Senju,except Hashirama.


That's why Madara started losing hope for this world.His peace belongs in another world,while Naruto's still remains in the real one.


What is Naruto doing at the moment?


-Having the backup of the entire army,he tries to resist to Madara's will and make sure his will be victorious.Naruto belives that people could really understand each other,something that cannot happen that easily.


What is Madara doing at the moment?



-He's trying to bring peace to everyone's heart,living or death.The only way for it is by force,since there is too much people opposing him.Remember that he also wants peace and a happy world like Naruto.He wants his family back,his friends back,and everyone that fought for this world and died.

-Knowledge means power.That's why nobody understands Madara's actions.He knows too much about the corrupted shinoby system and tries to do something for it.Only the Uchihas understood him after he disappeared,and were preparing for the revolution.


Both Naruto and Madara are cursed in the peace-making.Naruto's freedom is Madara's death,while Madara's freedom is him being victorious.

To sum up,Madara isn't evil,nor Naruto is good.Both of them want peace.In the end,the one who believes stronger in his will shall be victorious.

 

[Zol]

Good thoughts on their ideals/motives, but I don't think Naruto and everyone else just misunderstand Madara. I'm pretty sure they know Madara's goal means the end of free will and choice in life, and thus they resist that by wanting real peace that is born out of he free will of people...

 

[~Sky~]

Pretty sure Madara is evil.

 

[Da Best Ever]

In this thread I'm gonna write about Naruto's and Madara's visions of peace.

Obito was actually saying the truth to Konan about Nagato losing hope for his dreamworld.That's why in his last moments
he had to forget himself and nothing but to believe in Naruto's ways of making peace.

Naruto doesn't completely understand people's pain and the hatred generated,because he's too young to know that much.Is not enough just to see and trying to understand;You need to feel it.The older you get,the stronger your feeling
gets,and that feeling is something Naruto didn't experience.

Madara is the best example.Not only that he got his brother killed by Senju,but as a clan leader he couldn't do anything
to warn the other Uchiha members about the outcome.He cared too much about his clan,and his words had no meaning
anymore.Indeed the alliance was a wrong step for them,and an opportunity for the Senju,except Hashirama.


That's why Madara started losing hope for this world.His peace belongs in another world,while Naruto's still remains in the real one.


What is Naruto doing at the moment?


-Having the backup of the entire army,he tries to resist to Madara's will and make sure his will be victorious.Naruto belives that people could really understand each other,something that cannot happen that easily.


What is Madara doing at the moment?



-He's trying to bring peace to everyone's heart,living or death.The only way for it is by force,since there is too much people opposing him.Remember that he also wants peace and a happy world like Naruto.He wants his family back,his friends back,and everyone that fought for this world and died.

-Knowledge means power.That's why nobody understands Madara's actions.He knows too much about the corrupted shinoby system and tries to do something for it.Only the Uchihas understood him after he disappeared,and were preparing for the revolution.


Both Naruto and Madara are cursed in the peace-making.Naruto's freedom is Madara's death,while Madara's freedom is him being victorious.

To sum up,Madara isn't evil,nor Naruto is good.Both of them want peace.In the end,the one who believes stronger in his will shall be victorious.

obito gave up on the dreamworld too, and madara isnt evil he just has malicious ways to go about his peace but naruto is absolutely pure hearted...

 

[Zol]

One little thing: Nagato didn't give up on the dreamworld, he didn't know of that plan.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

yeah you are right but naruto also suffered hatred without any reason but he still forgave Villagers.
May be Rikodou will help naruto about answer to real peace by telling his own life story to naruto.

 

[Kiro man]

obito gave up on the dreamworld too, and madara isnt evil he just has malicious ways to go about his peace but naruto is absolutely pure hearted...

Yes,he gave up when he failed.But Madara never gave up,not when he lost to Hashirama.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara is Agent Smith, just wants to impose matrix over NV.

Naruto is just like Neo, with power to believe and makes other believe in peace too.

Basically naruto has better campaign as make believe is cheaper then changing the world

 

[itachi4real]

Madara is evil with good intention... naruto has good intentions but childish/ bad morals

 

[Kiro man]

One little thing: Nagato didn't give up on the dreamworld, he didn't know of that plan.

Didn't Obito tell him about that in the flashbacks?

 

[Kiro man]

Madara is evil with good intention... naruto has good intentions but childish/ bad morals

Madara does what he believes is good.The others see Madara evil.

 

[Zol]

Didn't Obito tell him about that in the flashbacks?

No, Nagato's belief was with collecting the Bijuu they would built some kind of mass-destruction weapon, which they would hand out to villages/countries so that they would keep each others in check in a sort of cold war state.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Madara is evil with good intention... naruto has good intentions but childish/ bad morals

Naruto's thinking is not childish and It still not clear what naruto have a answer for a true peace.

It is quite certain that Naruto will meet up with So6P and then So6P will tell him his own life story.

Most probably after hearing So6P's story life , Naruto will come up with a Answer for true peace but it is too early to predict naruto's answer for true peace U_U

 

[itachi4real]

Madara does what he believes is good.The others see Madara evil.

Madara is good with good intentions but has made horrible decisions( which im fine with) to obtain peace.

Naruto's thinking is not childish and It still not clear what naruto have a answer for a true peace.

It is quite certain that Naruto will meet up with So6P and then So6P will tell him his own life story.

Most probably after hearing So6P's story life , Naruto will come up with a Answer for true peace but it is too early to predict naruto's answer for true peace U_U

Its childish imo. Im not gonna go through this with u again bruh.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Madara is good with good intentions but has made horrible decisions( which im fine with) to obtain peace.


Its childish imo. Im not gonna go through this with u again bruh.

As i said , it is still unclear the answer which naruto have for peace and currently , it is useless to claim that naruto has childish thinking

Manga is not ended yet and kishi will show us naruto's answer

 

[romeboii]

In this thread I'm gonna write about Naruto's and Madara's visions of peace.

Obito was actually saying the truth to Konan about Nagato losing hope for his dreamworld.That's why in his last moments
he had to forget himself and nothing but to believe in Naruto's ways of making peace.

Naruto doesn't completely understand people's pain and the hatred generated,because he's too young to know that much.Is not enough just to see and trying to understand;You need to feel it.The older you get,the stronger your feeling
gets,and that feeling is something Naruto didn't experience.

Madara is the best example.Not only that he got his brother killed by Senju,but as a clan leader he couldn't do anything
to warn the other Uchiha members about the outcome.He cared too much about his clan,and his words had no meaning
anymore.Indeed the alliance was a wrong step for them,and an opportunity for the Senju,except Hashirama.


That's why Madara started losing hope for this world.His peace belongs in another world,while Naruto's still remains in the real one.


What is Naruto doing at the moment?


-Having the backup of the entire army,he tries to resist to Madara's will and make sure his will be victorious.Naruto belives that people could really understand each other,something that cannot happen that easily.


What is Madara doing at the moment?



-He's trying to bring peace to everyone's heart,living or death.The only way for it is by force,since there is too much people opposing him.Remember that he also wants peace and a happy world like Naruto.He wants his family back,his friends back,and everyone that fought for this world and died.

-Knowledge means power.That's why nobody understands Madara's actions.He knows too much about the corrupted shinoby system and tries to do something for it.Only the Uchihas understood him after he disappeared,and were preparing for the revolution.


Both Naruto and Madara are cursed in the peace-making.Naruto's freedom is Madara's death,while Madara's freedom is him being victorious.

To sum up,Madara isn't evil,nor Naruto is good.Both of them want peace.In the end,the one who believes stronger in his will shall be victorious.

i disagree madara is evil which is the difference between him and nagato and obito madara has shown he enjoys battle and has a wicked side look at his actions he preaches peace when in reality he wants control the control that was taken from him when the uchiha stopped believing in him the control he was denied when he could not become hokage the control he in the infinite tsukiyomi..im not saying the loss of his brothers is not a motivating factor but he started to become a good person after with hashirama trying to give him the hokage seat but he knew that his clan had lpst faith in him and believed in hashirama more..he chose this path out of greed and he may be able to create peace under his jutsu but he will have complete control....but how can you say naruto cant understand the pain people have he has had his fair share of pain...it is not his youth that keeps him from understanding...he wants to change the world from a place where true peace cant exist to a.place where it can and create something out of nothing he changed someone like nagato and obito who thought peace cant be obtained in that its his desire to change people heart that makes him good

 

[romeboii]

Its a morality issue madara is cruel the geniunr article he will kill and enjoy doing it that is what makes him evil

 

[itachi4real]

As i said , it is still unclear the answer which naruto have for peace and currently , it is useless to claim that naruto has childish thinking

Manga is not ended yet and kishi will show us naruto's answer

Why is useless to think he has childish thinkin :|... with what his morals are at this point ima say its childish. Yea he might switch his way of thinkin at the end but atm this is my opinion bruh.

 

[Kaneki Kun]

Lord Madara's way of peace is the most realistic and effective. Yes force must be used but honestly thanks to the ignorance of the 5kages more than 60,000 shinobis have died. Even if they were to defeat Lord Madara and achieve this so called "peace" how long would it last? As long as theres happiness there will always be hatred. One must suffer in order for the one to be happy, its just the way it works.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Why is useless to think he has childish thinkin :|... with what his morals are at this point ima say its childish. Yea he might switch his way of thinkin at the end but atm this is my opinion bruh.

i will oppose you but you know that itachi was the one who guided naruto towards this path (bond of friendship)