Madara turning "evil"

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There is one thing I have been wondering about. Obito started out as a nice guy - then he met Madara and got talked into becoming a villain. Nagato started out as a nice guy - then he met Obito and got talked into becoming a villain.

Of course, there were also events that provided the ground for their change (Rin's death, Yahiko's death), but it was ultimately the work of someone brainwashing them to his course.

Now, think about this: Madara started out as a nice guy. Yes, he always quarreled with Hashirama, but in the end, he cofounded Konoha and seemed content even if Hashi became Hokage and not him. He had no ambitions. And then, he suddenly defects from Konoha, becomes a crazed lunatic and wants to fullfill the moon's eye plan.

That rapid change of heart doesn't really fit all his previous life's behaviour. It feels as if he also might have met someone who told him about the plan and talked him into all his, just like he did with Obito and Obito did with Nagato.

So, if Kishi wanted to, where is room to install another villain who is behind this all (someone like the elder son). I'm not saying this is the case, but it could be possible.

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That mystery villain is Kishimoto himself.
 

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Madara isn't evil.
Its just that he can't see any other way to create peace, but atleast he IS trying something instead of the previous generations of fail-kages.
 

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Madara isn't evil.
Its just that he can't see any other way to create peace, but atleast he IS trying something instead of the previous generations of fail-kages.


He is "evil" in the same way Obito and Nagato were evil. I put that word into quotes for a reason.
 

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I think that he became 'evil' after Izuna died. He blamed the Senju for it. Even if he did cofound Konoha with Hashirama he knew that no one except Hashirama had trust ih him.
 
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I believe that the Juubi is the Main villain. I think he had influence before the war.
 

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I think that he became 'evil' after Izuna died. He blamed the Senju for it. Even if he did cofound Konoha to Hashirama he knew that no one except Hashirama had trust ih him.


Yes, Izuna's death was probably the event (or one of the events) that founded his change, as was Rin's and Yahiko's death to Obito and Nagato, but he didn't become a lunatic after Izuna died. It happened much later, after he had seemingly come to terms with Izuna's death. It's as if someone has told him about the moon's eye plan and then brought Izuna's death up again as a means to corrupt Madara...
 

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He deciphered the Uchiha tablet with his EMS and I guess that was the key for him to become an antagonist.
 

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Yes, Izuna's death was probably the event (or one of the events) that founded his change, as was Rin's and Yahiko's death to Obito and Nagato, but he didn't become a lunatic after Izuna died. It happened much later, after he had seemingly come to terms with Izuna's death. It's as if someone has told him about the moon's eye plan and then brought Izuna's death up again as a means to corrupt Madara...

I don't think so. I mean it's possible of course but as the way I see it he just didn't have the support of people in Konoha,not even the Uchihas. He was always a threat. Combine that with still not getting past Izuna's death=diabolical villain.
 

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He deciphered the Uchiha tablet with his EMS and I guess that was the key for him to become an antagonist.


But would someone who is basically contempt with his present situation really become a villain bend on ending the world as we know it just through reading some ancient story on a tablet? It's a bit farfetched.
 

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But would someone who is basically contempt with his present situation really become a villain bend on ending the world as we know it just through reading some ancient story on a tablet? It's a bit farfetched.

As Madara mentioned in chapter 646 :

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He is "evil" in the same way Obito and Nagato were evil. I put that word into quotes for a reason.



Madara isn't ''evil'' he has a different view of the meaning peace, at the end of the
day they all want true peace.

 

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Your theory creates an infinite chain of evil douche bags.
 

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Your theory creates an infinite chain of evil douche bags.


Yes, but this chain-reaction is exactly what happened in this story with Madara, Obito and Nagato...
 

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Madara isnt exactly evil if you know what I mean.
 

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Not so much evil but deeply motivated to subdue the earth xd all behind this is the moon juubi
 

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Its the Juubi its pulling the strings using people to get its body and chakra back. That manipulative monster!O_O
 
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