Tobirama and Kakashi vs Minato

[Touken]

I actually agree with the point of Tobirama and Kakashi winning this but what exactly makes u think Tobiramas fodder EDO can do anything against Minato? Base Minato without summons is slightly above Tobirama,How exactly can u say that Minato ain't touching Tobirama when he don't even have prepared kunai?

Minato can't escape the blast radius with FTG considering the blast radius would cover the area where his marked kunai are, and he can't escape the blast radius with Shunshin alone. He doesn't need prepped kuani, Kage Bunshin are enough to act as marked kunai and he only really needs one marked kunai/sword. Plus, Minato only throws a handful of kunai out when going up against platoons; against MS Obito he only had one kunai out and against JM Madara he didn't spread his kunai either.

 

[Avinash012]

Minato can't escape the blast radius with FTG considering the blast radius would cover the area where his marked kunai are, and he can't escape the blast radius with Shunshin alone. He doesn't need prepped kuani, Kage Bunshin are enough to act as marked kunai and he only really needs one marked kunai/sword. Plus, Minato only throws a handful of kunai out when going up against platoons; against MS Obito he only had one kunai out and against JM Madara he didn't spread his kunai either.

It takes considerable amount of time for that blact to reach its peak ,Minato already witnessed that bomb and can simply throw a kunai and escape it. Did u forgot the fact that it Minato can't escape blast radius,the same goes for Tobirama and Kakashi which makes it a suicide.In face ur overrating this blast range and Minato can simply counter it with his shunshin FTG is not needed.How exactly do u think this summon can get near Minato? Do u think Tobiramas EDO is as fast as Minato and can actually catch him?

Do u think Tobirama can gain enough time to spam shadow clones against someone like Minato? What if he appears infrot of Tobirama with his rasengan like he did against Madara? Even Madara didn't noticed it until Minato appeared infront of him so don't tell me Tobirama catches it or deflects it.

 

[Touken]

It takes considerable amount of time for that blact to reach its peak ,Minato already witnessed that bomb and can simply throw a kunai and escape it. Did u forgot the fact that it Minato can't escape blast radius,the same goes for Tobirama and Kakashi which makes it a suicide.In face ur overrating this blast range and Minato can simply counter it with his shunshin FTG is not needed.How exactly do u think this summon can get near Minato? Do u think Tobiramas EDO is as fast as Minato and can actually catch him?

The blast is instantaneous, as soon as it goes off Minato isn't going to have time to throw a kunai to escape the blast radius. Tobirama and Kakashi won't be caught in the blast radius as long as they're behind the Edo, bearing in mind that the blast only goes forward [

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]. Tobirama can simply have the Edo prep Gojou Kibakufuda, throw a kunai at Minato and use FTG v2 to have the Edo teleport to the kunai. Once that happens, there'd be no time for Minato to Shunshin away or throw a kunai elsewhere to escape the blast radius.

Do u think Tobirama can gain enough time to spam shadow clones against someone like Minato? What if he appears infrot of Tobirama with his rasengan like he did against Madara? Even Madara didn't noticed it until Minato appeared infront of him so don't tell me Tobirama catches it or deflects it.

It takes one hand seal, so yeah, I definitely think he can spam Kage Bunshin. He either teleports to his Edo or to his Kage Bunshin, he isn't going to take down Tobirama the same way he tried against JM Madara.

 

[Avinash012]

The blast is instantaneous, as soon as it goes off Minato isn't going to have time to throw a kunai to escape the blast radius. Tobirama and Kakashi won't be caught in the blast radius as long as they're behind the Edo, bearing in mind that the blast only goes forward [

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]. Tobirama can simply have the Edo prep Gojou Kibakufuda, throw a kunai at Minato and use FTG v2 to have the Edo teleport to the kunai. Once that happens, there'd be no time for Minato to Shunshin away or throw a kunai elsewhere to escape the blast radius.

Lmao,Do u even realize how much time does it takes for a paper bomb to explod? It is instantaneous? Plz don't pull things out of nowhere,this jutsu is nowhere near instantaneous and this is jutsu is one of those jutsu which takes shitload of prp time.The movement Minato realized that there is a paper bomb he'll teleport to one of his kunai and throws a kunai and teleport to it incase if the blast reaches his place.He canonically escaped it with FTG and I don't get what exactly makes u think it would work on Minato.

Now Tobirama throws a kunai with a speed even Minato couldn't react/notice? on top of that Tobirama teleports his EDO tensei to Minatos place (never heared of such a feat) and that EDO body catches Minato then places paper tags on him and still Minato has no time to react? Lmao plz bro.

It takes one hand seal, so yeah, I definitely think he can spam Kage Bunshin. He either teleports to his Edo or to his Kage Bunshin, he isn't going to take down Tobirama the same way he tried against JM Madara.

It takes no hand signs for Minato to throw a kunai and Rasengan Tobirama, even if Tobirama manage to escape Tobirama close range combat against a SM user = Suicide.

 

[Bogard]

The kibakufuda is far from instant. Just like normal explosive tags, they need to detonate first, that alone gives the opponent awareness even without knowledge, let alone with knowledge

At least 3 steps are needed before explosion

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Minato already showed to dodge an already explosive tags(4explosive tags infact) even having time to

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1- Hiraishin to a safe house

2- Remove the tags and throw them away

3- Escape the blast explosion with shunshin

He did even better while saving Kushina judging by the fact he wasn't even there from the start, so had to notice the situation really quickly before making his moves

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I'm pretty confident Minato can dodge it with base speed let alone with Hiraishin

 

[Touken]

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1- Hiraishin to a safe house

2- Remove the tags and throw them away

3- Escape the blast explosion with shunshin

He did even better while saving Kushina judging by the fact he wasn't even there from the start, so had to notice the situation really quickly before making his moves

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I'm pretty confident Minato can dodge it with base speed let alone with Hiraishin

-Hiraishin's instant, so no point discussing this.
-Fair enough.
-Irrelevant, GK's explosions dwarf the explosion those 4 paper tags made.

GK's initial explosion dwarfed a Bijuu sized Juubi fodder then continued to grow bigger. If Minato does dodge it with Shunshin, then he either goes right or left, and Tobirama can easily intercept him by making a Kage Bunshin go one way while the real one goes the other.

Although I highly doubt Minato can Shunshin out of GK; he has to deal with the explosion and the shock waves produced from an explosion of that size.

^ By instantaneous I was talking about when the tags explode, not the prep time.

 

[Avinash012]

-Hiraishin's instant, so no point discussing this.
-Fair enough.
-Irrelevant, GK's explosions dwarf the explosion those 4 paper tags made.

GK's initial explosion dwarfed a Bijuu sized Juubi fodder then continued to grow bigger. If Minato does dodge it with Shunshin, then he either goes right or left, and Tobirama can easily intercept him by making a Kage Bunshin go one way while the real one goes the other.

Although I highly doubt Minato can Shunshin out of GK; he has to deal with the explosion and the shock waves produced from an explosion of that size.

^ By instantaneous I was talking about when the tags explode, not the prep time.

Like I said b4 blast won't reach its peak on a whim like TBB or other blasts,More paper tags are summoned = increases the blast radius. Minato escapes it right after noticing first tag so it ain't going to effect him by any means. Those Juubi clones are not bijju sized and blast area is 2=3X bigger than the area Gamakichis body can cover so Minato is more than capable of escaping its radius with shunshin but he need FTG to get rid of tags so he FTGs to his kunai the movement he realizes the papger bomb then uses shunshin to get away.No need to mention the fact that Tobirama and Kakashi are standing near blast without getting away proves that it won't reach their location and Minato is smart enough to figureout something as simple as this so he'll run or FTG towords Tobirama and Kakashis location.

Tobiramas clones ain't doing anything to Minato.

 

[Touken]

Like I said b4 blast won't reach its peak on a whim like TBB or other blasts,More paper tags are summoned = increases the blast radius. Minato escapes it right after noticing first tag so it ain't going to effect him by any means. Those Juubi clones are not bijju sized and blast area is 2=3X bigger than the area Gamakichis body can cover so Minato is more than capable of escaping its radius with shunshin but he need FTG to get rid of tags so he FTGs to his kunai the movement he realizes the papger bomb then uses shunshin to get away.No need to mention the fact that Tobirama and Kakashi are standing near blast without getting away proves that it won't reach their location and Minato is smart enough to figureout something as simple as this so he'll run or FTG towords Tobirama and Kakashis location.

Tobiramas clones ain't doing anything to Minato.

Like I said, the Edo doesn't need to go straight up to Minato and then prep GK, that'd make no sense. The Edo could explode anywhere and it'd be big enough to catch Minato in the explosion. Minato can't do anything even if he notices the Edo summoning paper tags, the best option he has is to Shunshin away. Yes, they are Bijuu sized,

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who's the size of Gamabunta, who's roughly the size of a Bijuu, and

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. Tobirama can position the Edo beforehand so all the marked kunai would be in the blast radius but this doesn't matter anyway while bearing in mind that Minato only has a bunch of marked kunai against groups of ninja. At best he'd have 2 marked kunai out on the battlefield, one for Tobirama and one for Kakashi, the same method he used against JM Madara, so he has no marked kunai to FTG to otherwise he'd be caught in the blast and Shunshin is his only option, and I've already mentioned how I doubt he'd be able to get out of that explosion with Shunshin alone considering the shock wave itself would send him flying.

 

[Boston Rob]

Kamui FTG GG, i probably just soloed the thread, sorry.......

 

[Amenotejikara]

is this dr proof lol