Naruto did surpass Minato and Jiraiya...

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Let me know when naruto learns more than rasengan.

Minato outclasses him

I don't normally expect knowledge from trolls but this is beyond stupid.
you know that the rasengan so far is minato's only offensive jutsu right? FTG is a transportation jutsu.
But lets say you knew that but you just felt like being a hater as usual without even realise naruto has more offensive techniques than minato.

 

[take it easy]

When I saw it I lawl and wanted it as my sig.




Let me know when naruto learns more than rasengan.

Minato outclasses him

naruto surpassed minato in foot speed,rasengan,chakra transfer jutsu, kage bunshin and this mangafax

 

[Perlmutter]

Naruto only made clones because he couldn't fuse with ma and pa. Outside of that, shadow clones to refresh sm is useless You can already get a permanent sm( as long as your chakra lasts) by fusing with ma and pa because you constantly take in energy. Naruto couldn't do that which warranted the clones.

Furthermore, naruto needs to take out a scroll and reverse summon the clone then dispel it. It'd be easier to just meditate instead of doing all that shit.

What you're saying is wrong.


And speed, and sensing, and taijutsu and kenjutsu and shuriken skills and... everything. Only think naruto has over him is a rasenshuriken and a chakra pool.

You are 100% correct in the point that the clones were a work around, but they have become something more. In a perfect situation, which is what I use for all my comparisons, Naruto still beats Minato in terms of Sage power from what we have seen. Also another thing is that Ma and Pa should NEVER be used in a matchup, as that makes it 3v1.

 

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And speed, and sensing, and taijutsu and kenjutsu and shuriken skills and... everything. Only think naruto has over him is a rasenshuriken and a chakra pool.

Not really naruto in SM and KCM has shown better sensing and foot speed than minato. and minato doesn't have frog kata so naruto is superior to him in taijutsu.

 

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Naruto was never superior to Minato , they have pretty much them same but Minato has the FTG , space time barrier & sealing techs advantage .

 

[Perlmutter]

Not really naruto in SM and KCM has shown better sensing and foot speed than minato. and minato doesn't have frog kata so naruto is superior to him in taijutsu.

I'd have to assume he does have Frog Kata. They seem to be taught together when someone learns Sage Mode.

 

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naruto surpassed minato in foot speed,rasengan,chakra transfer jutsu, kage bunshin and this mangafax

K even if that was all true which it's not.

What is naruto counter for FTG which beat obito?

Obito almost soloed naruto like 3 times with his kamui, naruto had no counter


Naruto also have no counter for RDS


Minato jin> naruto jin

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

well good for him :erm: isn't that the idea/point of the show ??

 

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I'd have to assume he does have Frog Kata. They seem to be taught together when someone learns Sage Mode.

I wouldn't, Frog kata is the final aspect of sage mode training and not even jiraiya was mentioned to have it.

 

[Perlmutter]

well good for him :erm: isn't that the idea/point of the show ??

Indeed it is, but people still like to act as though Minato is superior

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Indeed it is, but people still like to act as though Minato is superior

only in terms of battle experience/strategy but, if we're speaking about Naruto's progress as a shinobi/what he has in his arsenal then he did surpass them :

- best Rasengan/Rasenshuriken.

- best chakra control.

- best SM.

- toad summons.

- Kurama's chakra (complete mastery) which is his signature power, mainly what puts him ahead of his father/sensei.

and he's only 16, i might not like Naruto as a character but, no one can deny his feats/potential U_U

 

[MorphyRulez]

Another part is he's not a fool naruto he used to be. He has unique learning style and he's too fast about it. He improved his observation skills. He's the only one with Tobirama found Obito's weakness. Not Minato, Hashirama, Kakashi, Hiruzen in the first place which is huge improvement. And Raw power >>>>>>>>> Minato already. Minato just has his huge tp advantage which is kinda predictable since he needs to mark/seal to use FTG. Even Killer-Bee is able to predict his another move. And i believe his TP speed is kinda equal to Naruto's full speed. He just already saved kakashi from multiple Bijuu bomb with high speed. About sensor type. Naruto is the best sensor atm. Even he can able to sense who is Zetsu or not. And SM give him another level sensoring skills too. Only Minato has Uzumaki Sealing techs or his space time barrier etc. Naruto already Surpassed his former teacher and his father or everyone in Konoha. Just left maybe Tobirama(i believe he surpassed him too) Just Hashirama is superior to Naruto as for me(Don't forget Madara too^^) . Tbh, being a perfect junchiriki for Kurama is a huge deal at all with SM+ Naruto skills. He's just a monster.