Izanami without Senju DNA?

[VongolaX]

Inzangi derived from the creation of all things.

Inzangi is a yin yang release...

Inzanami was a means of stopping inzangi.

Inzanami is a uchiha kinjustu

In the beginning, Uchiha's and senju's were blood brothers (during the start of their separation)

They were by blood both uchiha and senju, but as time passed their blood thinned and the hate grew stronger.

The time period that itachi was talking about, was the one closest to the older sons generation.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Neither need senju DNA. Itachi said that plenty of uchiha's used Izanagi, and they didn't have senju DNA.

 

[osba]

yup plot hole nice find

 

[valandil988]

Neither need senju DNA. Itachi said that plenty of uchiha's used Izanagi, and they didn't have senju DNA.

Though I can't understand why you would need a WHOLE new jutsu to deal with something as limited as Izanagi it doesn't make sense, it only works once or at a maximum twice hence its a suicidal jutsu at best which isn't always certain to pay off as an pure uchiha. Therefore any "users" of this jutsu wouldn't be a problem at ALL hence I have no idea why Izanami was created...what to counter the already useless Izanagi user???

So dumb these jutsu Kishimoto obviously didn't think them through AT ALL.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Though I can't understand why you would need a WHOLE new jutsu to deal with something as limited as Izanagi it doesn't make sense, it only works once or at a maximum twice hence its a suicidal jutsu at best which isn't always certain to pay off as an pure uchiha. Therefore any "users" of this jutsu wouldn't be a problem at ALL hence I have no idea why Izanami was created...what to counter the already useless Izanagi user???

So dumb these jutsu Kishimoto obviously didn't think them through AT ALL.

Izanagi can be used 2 times, But they could steal more eyes. Plenty of people tried to steal other sharing an. Itachi said so, and itachi is the ultimate authority on everything.

 

[Meowazziel]

I dont believe that many Uchiha had Senju DNA to use Izanagi.
Maybe Obito didnt know you could use it without Senju DNA or he only talked about his version.

Itachi used Izanami without senju DNA and we have seen plenty Uchiha in scans use izanagi and
it is not likely that they all had senju DNA.

 

[Honord Sage]

The use of Senju DNA is to unify Senju DNA And Uchiha DNA back into one DNA Strand, the same strand of the SO6P Who was not a Senju nor an Uchiha.The closes DNA today to the SO6P without Senju and Uchiha DNA is An Uzumaki.

 

[Orochimagus]

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Senju DNA is a requirement, which was not hard to fulfill since there was a war that had started many years ago. This means the Uchiha had a steady supply of Senju DNA in the form of fallen soldiers.

 

[BlacLord™]

Is that the viz translation? Because the viz is the only correct one

The Viz is the worst one out of the more well-known translators.

I've explained this to other members before, they put in their own interpretations and that can really have a negative impact and overall, their translations just aren't that great.

They're only official because the company that publishes Weekly Shounen Jump, Shueisha, is the same company that owns Viz Media.

 

[Orochimagus]

Still the official translation and it is actually paid. Better than fan translations which have had some very bad translations before.

 

[itachi uchiha fiance]

izanami can be done without senju

 

[Floydical]

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Senju DNA is a requirement, which was not hard to fulfill since there was a war that had started many years ago. This means the Uchiha had a steady supply of Senju DNA in the form of fallen soldiers.

SMH at linking wikipedia. Have you never been assigned a paper in school? If so don't tell me that instructors consider wikipedia as a reliable source. The wiki says it requires Senju DNA because it was stated in manga 510. But as I've stated in this thread, Kishi obviously changed it. He changed many other things in his manga, so its not abnormal. He changed it to not require Senju DNA so that he could add depth to the Uchiha clan's history.

 

[Jako98146]

Izanami is a genjutsu created by the Uchiha. Izanagi is a form of Yin-Yang release that reflects the ability of creation that Hagorama had. Albeit the jutsu are like two halves, they are different and Senju DNA is not required (Unless Kishi says it is)for Izanami

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

more importantly, how did those fodder charachters have senju dan, if they spammed izinagi.
izinami dosent need senju dan, and i think izinagi only needs it to extend the time.

 

[valandil988]

Izanagi can be used 2 times, But they could steal more eyes. Plenty of people tried to steal other sharing an. Itachi said so, and itachi is the ultimate authority on everything.

Yeah but if they get pushed far enough in a battle they would become blind. Oh so I suppose fodder ninja know now how to take down another uchiha and steal their eyes all without their vaunted eye? Sure Madara is an exception but thats by no means the rule.

 

[VolatileSoul]

Don't add to the manga. Izanagi requires Senju DNA, Izanami was never stated to have such a requirement.

 

[valandil988]

Don't add to the manga. Izanagi requires Senju DNA, Izanami was never stated to have such a requirement.

If thats true why does Izanami exist in the first place?

Where are all these Senju DNA infused Uchiha that use Izanagi running around during the clan wars that provoked the creation of a new jutsu like Izanami.

Madara is the first person to ever gain the EMS which made him capable of finding out about the combination of Senju and Uchiha powers. Hence nobody before him should have ever learned about Izanagi (If Senju DNA is a requirement) therefore who are all these "Uchiha" that Izanami was created to defend against ~ Itachi's words. Madara certainly never used it his eyes are too precious to him, and neither did Izuna.

Sorry but your running out of MS users. Itachi never used it in life, neither did Shisui. By this definition only Uchiha AFTER Madara could have used Izanagi if it was necessary for them to have Senju DNA because he would have had to tell them about the technique and how to gain it. Do you see Madara doing that??! No!

And if the Uchiha knew about the Senju connection the Rinnegan would have been awakened in some fashion LONG before Madara came along by some other Uchiha that had gained MS and possibly EMS. Madara however was the first EMS user, apparently it had never before happened. So ergo the Uchiha couldn't have know about Senju DNA hence if Izanagi was a Uchiha "Kinjutsu" in Madara's time (during the clan wars) then it must have been used at least once before Madara's time. Ergo it cannot have been a Senju DNA required Jutsu.

Simple logic you idiots. God.

 

[Yahcob13]

What if Itachi had senju dna? Its not out of the question.

 

[Zorø]

It dont require senju dna.