Itachi. The best ninja In NV history

[BenjerminGaye]

Yea op he's very strong. Kishi made him to be Op just like Madara, minato, hashirama, nagato and some others. Most people just don't accept that those 5 are overpowered/broken because their fave can't compete with them.
There's a reason they're all prodigies. Prodigies are meant to be a cut above the rest. Otherwise, they're just average nobodies who have nothing special about them. What's the fun in that

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I was gonna say something to undermine his abilities(mention his stamina) but that spoiler had me in tears.

U sir have won the internet.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

only stupid kids will say Itachi was a best ninja.
Reason why itachi wasn't a good ninja at all.
1.Killed half of knohoha citizen to save rest of citizens.
2.Killed his parents . What kind of insane person who kill his own father n mother. Itachi is such a jack ass
3.Itachi never had a philosophy of his own. Itachi never had a say. Itachi was used , abused and misused by Danzou and Tobi.
4.Itach failed all his life. Itachi failed to protect his clan, family and his brother.
Itachi failed to kill Obito by amaterasu, Itachi failed to stop akatsuki from collecting biju and instead helped them sealing few. Itachi only helped Madara to finally get out of Edo tensei.
5.the way i see it , Itachi failed all his life

 

[Ovan]

Itachi keep the ninja world spinning even beyond the grave.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Hagoromo is just a rumor. Itachi = rikoudo

well whatever floats your mind

 

[sindi1997]

He s the best character Imo I love his Story ^^

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

There is so many things wrong with this post....smh​

only stupid kids will say Itachi was a best ninja.
Reason why itachi wasn't a good ninja at all.
1.Killed half of knohoha citizen to save rest of citizens.

He's implying that the Uchiha was half of Konoha'a population......smh and if he didn't lots of innocents would of died and that would of left the village open and easy for invasion.He listened to his superiors that is what good shinobis do.​

2.Killed his parents . What kind of insane person who kill his own father n mother. Itachi is such a jack ass

Aagain the needs of the many out-ways the needs of the few.....as you can see his was in tears in doing this he done this to save the leaf and many inncoents. The way your talking you're acting like he had to smile on his face while doing it and he did it for no reason.​

3.Itachi never had a philosophy of his own. Itachi never had a say. Itachi was used , abused and misused by Danzou and Tobi.

Misused by Danzou...oh ok that why he threatened Danzou and Danzou was so shock he didn't even think about laying a hand on Sasuke. Oh yeah and Yobi bullied Itachi right? That's why he never layed a hand on the leaf while Itachi was alive right, and he had to hide shit for him or he would of been killed.​

4.Itach failed all his life. Itachi failed to protect his clan, family and his brother.
Itachi failed to kill Obito by amaterasu, Itachi failed to stop akatsuki from collecting biju and instead helped them sealing few. Itachi only helped Madara to finally get out of Edo tensei.

His goal was to protect the Leaf and his brother while he was alive neither or them got ****ed with, his goal was never to stop the akatsuki form collecting bijuu but to spy on them, and if Itachi refused to seal bijuu that would blow his cover, may I ask are you a idiot​

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5.the way i see it , Itachi failed all his life

The way I see it you have lack of common sense and intelligence. Itachi is one of the successful people in the manga and one of if not the best shiobi in the manga, only rivaled by people like Minato, Hashirama and Tobirama.


I wondered why the was so many Itachi-tards but I can see with people like you are just asking them to say dumb shit...U_U ​

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

ALLHAIL THE SOLOKING!!!!

ALL HAIL OUR LORD

ALL HAIL OUR MASTER

ALL HAIL ITACHI UCHIHA

Rest in peace

rest in pieces you mean considering hes a violent evil terrorist

He listened to his superiors that is what good shinobis do.

HAHAHA. he ignored and extorted them at every opportunity. he completely ignored tsunade and refused to inform her of the altered situation

.smh and if he didn't lots of innocents would of died and that would of left the village open and easy for invasion.

and destroying their most powerful clan wont?
and lol dont use the word innocent so firmly around a place like konoha

Aagain the needs of the many out-ways the needs of the few..

but according to itachi it really fukin doesnt.
as shown when he let mass murdering terrorists live and get away from him scot free.
oro, kabuto, danzo, sound 5, sasuke. the list goes on. he favoured sasueks life so highly he was willing to sell information about his own people to enemy nations. you call that needs of the many?

.as you can see his was in tears in doing this he done this to save the leaf

which wasnt in any danger. a few dozen uchihas vs hundreds of thousands of trained ninjas. yeah thats not good odds. zomg uchiha are so evil and so strong! we need itachi sama to save us from 50 revolutionaries attempting a secret takeover in the dead of night! its not like they had hundreds of thousands of jounin at their beck and call!

The way your talking you're acting like he had to smile on his face while doing it and he did it for no reason.

oh but he really fukin did. his reasoning was apparently to stop a civil war which would be completely impossible because the uchihas were so few. if uchihas wanted a war theyd be up front about it, not attempt a secret assasination in the middle of the night. they knew theyd get owned unless it was a surprise attack. which it wasnt any more thanks to itachi so wtf was he worried about?

oh ok that why he threatened Danzou and Danzou was so shock he didn't even think about laying a hand on Sasuke.

danzo pissed on itachi and ignored him. as shown when he flippantly ordered sasukes murder in the beginning of part 2 at sai's hands

? That's why he never layed a hand on the leaf while Itachi was alive right

so what, you think itachi > pain, obito and rest of akatsuki? you dont believe that. obito didnt attack konah because it wasnt a prioritiy. did he not send kisame after naruto? didnt itachi attack kakashi? so what, the deal is "dont touch my people, because only i am allowed to beat them to near death apparently!"
obitos plans didnt advance till AFTER he got sasuke on his side. thats what he was waiting for. not before.

His goal was to protect the Leaf and his brother

he ensured the leaf was defenceless and got blown off the face of the earth, and made sure his brother got put inot a mentally shattered coma/become an insane terrorist

r while he was alive neither or them got ****ed with,

WHAT?
orochimaru killed half the village and executed the hokage. you call that not being fuked with?
sasuke got put into a mentally and physically shattered state that needed tsunade to save him from and even then, decided on joining a mass murderer and atrempted to murder his best friend.

he had to hide shit for him or he would of been killed.

so your saying the almighty wise itachi needs obitos secrets and powers or else hes completely and utterly helpless vs obito's might? without them, hes at obitos mercy?

his goal was never to stop the akatsuki form collecting bijuu but to spy on them,

tell me again whats better for the world. stopping or sabotaging a group collecting living nukes for an unknown plan involving undoubtedly global destruction, or knowing a few useless facts about them and passing it all onto an inept corrupt government?

if Itachi refused to seal bijuu that would blow his cover,

again how is this serving his village or world. whats he finding out in akatsuki thats so worth keeping his cover? is he in the inner circle? no. does he know all of pain and obitos powers? apparently not. does he know their ultimate goal and has a plan to sabotage it? no.
what in all flying levels of fuk is itachi achieving by staying with them? ill tell you. the deaths of thousands of people.

Itachi is one of the successful people in the manga

tried to stop a war by killing his clan - failed. there was never gonna be a war and killing their strongest clan is gonna weaken them just as much as anything else will
tried to stop orochimaru -let him go for no reason
tried to kill obito - fail
tried to torture sasuke to insanity and corrupt him into his own little murderous puppet that slaughters innocent people for power - fail. sasuke went about it his own way
tried to enslave sasuke into serving an inept and corrupt government for eternity - fail.
tried to stop his village being half killed and destroyed by oro/pain- fail.
tried to stop obito touching konoha when hes alive - fail. kakuzu and hidan would have invaded if they werent intercepted, on obitos orders.
tried to stop kabuto and edo tensei- fail. kabuto's legacy is madara and madara is currently killing everyone. ending ET changed nothing.
tried to convince naruto to not do everything alone - fail. narutos still an arrogant douche

one of if not the best shiobi in the manga, only rivaled by people like Minato, Hashirama and Tobirama.

are you really comparing an evil terrorist whos a minor footnote on akatsukis shoes to the man who created konoha and ended the warring clan era?

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

rest in pieces you mean considering hes a violent evil terrorist

Terrorist? Why did protect the Leaf and sacrifice his family.​

HAHAHA. he ignored and extorted them at every opportunity. he completely ignored tsunade and refused to inform her of the altered situation

Ignored who, where your evidnce, he was still under Danzou at that point he severd under Hizuren and Danzou just because Hizuren died doesn't mean he's not under Danzou.At all how do you think Jiriaya got information on Pain? The most plausible source would be Itachi ​

and destroying their most powerful clan wont?

Lel the Uchiha were murder silently in the night were nobody knew, and they weren't even definatley the strongest clan takes away the only loyal Uchihas Itachi and Shusui they lose to Hizuren's clan and the Hyugga. And what would leave somone more open one clan being nurdered or that caln +1000 or 2000 people, use your head.

and lol dont use the word innocent so firmly around a place like konoha

Most people in Konoha are inncoent.​

but according to itachi it really fukin doesnt.
as shown when he let mass murdering terrorists live and get away from him scot free.
oro, kabuto, danzo, sound 5, sasuke. the list goes on. he favoured sasueks life so highly he was willing to sell information about his own people to enemy nations. you call that needs of the many?

Hizuren was to deal with Oro and he dealt with Kabuto, Danzou was a leaf elder so that point is irrelevant, Sasuke wasn't a mass murdering terrorist when Itachi met him you forget Sasuke attacked the Kage summit after he died. Sound 5 when did Itachi encounter the Sound5? Looks like someone is making up BS. As for the 'Sasuke' that was a threat to keep Danzou away he could be easily bluffing he never did it so that's irrelevant, all Itachi did was protect the leaf.
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which wasnt in any danger. a few dozen uchihas vs hundreds of thousands of trained ninjas. yeah thats not good odds. zomg uchiha are so evil and so strong! we need itachi sama to save us from 50 revolutionaries attempting a secret takeover in the dead of night! its not like they had hundreds of thousands of jounin at their beck and call!

Uchiha was the stronger than the average ninja and the fact that you say that's good odds proves you know shit. I would rather take then out than risk people dying if the coupe went down the Uchiha would of died just lots of innocents and military force would died so yeah making Itachi do it was the best option.
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oh but he really fukin did. his reasoning was apparently to stop a civil war which would be completely impossible because the uchihas were so few. if uchihas wanted a war theyd be up front about it, not attempt a secret assasination in the middle of the night. they knew theyd get owned unless it was a surprise attack. which it wasnt any more thanks to itachi so wtf was he worried about?

They were planning to take-over why would they be up-front about it Itachi knew the methods they were going to use, so Danzou planned it accordingly. You even said in your first post to you the Uchiha was the strongest so yes there was something to worry about they wanted no innocents too die. The most I read your post the more I see you lack common sense.​

danzo pissed on itachi and ignored him. as shown when he flippantly ordered sasukes murder in the beginning of part 2 at sai's hands

Lol you think Itachi wouldn't **** up Danzou if Sasuke died. Once again he done that because Sasuke was a missing in and a Rouge ninja. And that proves how dumb Danzou is to even push Itachi buttons.​

so what, you think itachi > pain, obito and rest of akatsuki? you dont believe that. obito didnt attack konah because it wasnt a prioritiy. did he not send kisame after naruto? didnt itachi attack kakashi? so what, the deal is "dont touch my people, because only i am allowed to beat them to near death apparently!"
obitos plans didnt advance till AFTER he got sasuke on his side. thats what he was waiting for. not before.

I never said that I was talking about the dumb-ass who said Itachi didn't do shit to the akatsuki, I'm think what is supposed to do kill them? As for your other point Obito clearly say after Itachi dies that he's not in the way and he can attack the Leaf. Itachi was the one person protecting the Leaf. Him and Kisame taking Naruto was clearly BS Itachi stopped Kisame from killing Kakashi and he used Tskuomi on Kakshi because it isn't fatal. When the went to capture Naruto that was blatantly stalled out they could of grabbed Naruto the second they saw him.​

he ensured the leaf was defenceless and got blown off the face of the earth, and made sure his brother got put inot a mentally shattered coma/become an insane terrorist

Itachi protected the Leaf while he was alive, what was he supposed to do Pain when he was dead think before type. Sasuke was fine before Obito got to him so again your making up BS it was Obito telling Sasuke what happened tunred him into what he was now, this was even backed up by what Karin said, about his Chakra before he met Obito and after.​

WHAT?
orochimaru killed half the village and executed the hokage. you call that not being fuked with?
sasuke got put into a mentally and physically shattered state that needed tsunade to save him from and even then, decided on joining a mass murderer and atrempted to murder his best friend.

Shsusui was Itachi best friend when did he try and kill him, as for Sasuke he did what he did to make Sasuke hate him which was apart of his plan. As for Orochimaru what would of Itachi done when he wasn't at the village at that time.​

so your saying the almighty wise itachi needs obitos secrets and powers or else hes completely and utterly helpless vs obito's might? without them, hes at obitos mercy?

Obito is haxed so yeah nobody without intel in the show part from jins FTG users could beat Obito. Obito felt that threatened by Itachi he never laid a finger in the Leaf and he kept secrets, Itachi had Obito at his mercy this was shown ckearly in the manga.​

tell me again whats better for the world. stopping or sabotaging a group collecting living nukes for an unknown plan involving undoubtedly global destruction, or knowing a few useless facts about them and passing it all onto an inept corrupt government?

Your retarded, intel has shown to be vital in Naruto with intel Jiriyaya would of beat Nagato, without intel Naruto would of lost to Nagato. With intel Itachi would of killed Obito a while ago, Kisame died for intel so you point is relevant, intel has shown to be vital in Naruto.
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again how is this serving his village or world. whats he finding out in akatsuki thats so worth keeping his cover? is he in the inner circle? no. does he know all of pain and obitos powers? apparently not. does he know their ultimate goal and has a plan to sabotage it? no.
what in all flying levels of fuk is itachi achieving by staying with them? ill tell you. the deaths of thousands of people.

He knew where there base was at he knew about members like Diedra, Sasori and Kisame, knew about Obito just not everything. It was plausible the the intel Jiriaya first got form Pain was froming Itachi. Once again your simple mindedness has yet to discover why intel important. And if Itachi left the akasuki where would he go the akatsuki was the most helpful thing Itachi could of done for the village.​

tried to stop a war by killing his clan - failed. there was never gonna be a war and killing their strongest clan is gonna weaken them just as much as anything else will

He never tried to stop a WAR, he stopped the civil war in the Leaf and he stopped it form being attack while he was alive.​

tried to stop orochimaru -let him go for no reason

He never tried to stop Orochimaru he attack Itachi and then Itachi beat him.
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tried to kill obito - fail

He never attempted to kill Obito while he was alive if your talking the implant he done to Sasuke yeah then he did fail then.​

tried to torture sasuke to insanity and corrupt him into his own little murderous puppet that slaughters innocent people for power - fail. sasuke went about it his own way

He never attempted for Sasuke to kill innocent, Itachi even said he planned to make Sasuke a hero by letting Sasuke kill him. And he could've easily manipulated if he didn't use KA on himself. ​

tried to enslave sasuke into serving an inept and corrupt government for eternity - fail.

The only corrupt person was Danzou, and he could've easily if it wasn't for Obito and in fact Sauske was fighting for the village now in the manga. And he could of easily done it with KA.​

tried to stop his village being half killed and destroyed by oro/pain- fail.

More BS he never attempted to stop any of them, in fact Itachi was dead when Pain attacked you moron. ​

tried to stop obito touching konoha when hes alive - fail. kakuzu and hidan would have invaded if they werent intercepted, on obitos orders.

He didn't fail those were Nagato's orders and also he he stopped and he did stop OBITO himself from attacking the Leaf, so no he didn't fail.​

tried to stop kabuto and edo tensei- fail. kabuto's legacy is madara and madara is currently killing everyone. ending ET changed nothing.

Kabuto's legacy isn't Madra you idiot you're making up more BS he she achieved in stopping the edo tensei just not Madra you moron he stopped Kabuto. Tell me in the manga where it says that Madara was Kabuto's legacy.​

tried to convince naruto to not do everything alone - fail. narutos still an arrogant douche

He never tried to convince Naruto to not do everything by himself he just said don't and he hasn't. If he did he would of tired to beat Madra and Obito but he left Madara to the Gokage, he would of tried to beat Obito by himself but he done it with Bee and Kakashi and he teamed with the 4 Kages and Obito. Telll me one major thing Naruto has done by himself.​

are you really comparing an evil terrorist whos a minor footnote on akatsukis shoes to the man who created konoha and ended the warring clan era?

Itachi a man who protected Konoha his entire life and saved the Shiniobi alliance and prevented a civil war and blood shed, and then Hashirama while a great guy nearly handed over the village to his vengeful hateful guy just because he was his friend.​

 

[madvictory]

LOL at the kids thinking Kabutomaru is stronger than Itachi. The big brother, Itachi, stated himself that they must NOT kill Kabuto at any cost. He could have used Taka-Sword or Amaterasu at any given time.

 

[madvictory]

LOL at the kids thinking Kabutomaru is stronger than Itachi. The big brother, Itachi, stated himself that they must NOT kill Kabuto at any cost. He could have used Taka-Sword or Amaterasu at any given time.

Even though I agree with many of your points, the Hyuuga being the most powerful clan in Konoha was just a plot-hole in Naruto Part 1 (fixed in Part 2), just like the Third Hokage was said to be the strongest hokage of all time in Part 1, even though he wasn't.

 

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[Gaara Of The Death]

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Itachi>>Orochimaru>>Hizuren.​

 

[Smd]

i like how a bunch of you are calling yourself itachi fans now.

when your not even

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Terrorist? Why did protect the Leaf and sacrifice his family.

he didnt protect anything except himself

LOL at the kids thinking Kabutomaru is stronger than Itachi. The big brother, Itachi, stated himself that they must NOT kill Kabuto at any cost. He could have used Taka-Sword or Amaterasu at any given time.

kabuto knew he was coming and could have at any time, summoned more edos, or ended itachi himself. itachi ran in half cocked and believed his basic genjutsu enough to win

el the Uchiha were murder silently in the night were nobody knew

um yes everyone knew. the whole world knew a shinobi from konoha was allowed to kill a clan ad escape. this makes them look weak

gnored who, where your evidnce, he was still under Danzou at that point he severd under Hizuren and Danzou just because Hizuren died doesn't mean he's not under Danzo

hes not in the foundation so how cuold he be under danzo? i didnt see a seal on his tongue.
if hes not under hiruzen then hes under hiruzens appointed successor whom he saw fit to keep in the dark for no reason

Most people in Konoha are inncoent.

most people in konoha are bloodthirsty mercenaries. and if you believe that how come itachi told sasuke to murder innocent people for the mangekeyo

they weren't even definatley the strongest clan takes away the only loyal Uchihas Itachi and Shusui they lose to Hizuren's clan and the Hyugga.

yuo just proved me right then. there was no threat level thus killing them all is pointless

And what would leave somone more open one clan being nurdered or that caln +1000 or 2000 people, use your head.

whos killing 1000 people? not the uchihas who you just admitted had lost their old prowess, were surrounded and lost the element of surprise

Hizuren was to deal with Oro and he dealt with Kabut

hiruzen died vs orochimaru because itachi stupidly let him go for no reason.
itachi let kabuto become a powerhouse who killed thousands of alliance shinobi and unleashed madara.
even if he didnt think that would happen, i thought he was all about the few vs the many.

Sasuke wasn't a mass murdering terrorist when Itachi met him you forget Sasuke attacked the Kage summit after he died.

irrelevant. thats what itachi turned him into and what he was inevitably going to become

. Sound 5 when did Itachi encounter the Sound5?

exactly. never. he never went after oro in any earnest way meaning he didnt care one bit about the konoha citizens being tortured and killed there

you think Itachi wouldn't **** up Danzou if Sasuke died.

i think he should have after the massacre or during it. danzo was as big or bigger threat than his family was with his militant actions. if itachis big on love and peace and honor, surely danzo is a target for his murder spree.
after that, and after danzo got off scot free i think itachi accepted that he was gonna allow danzo to slaughter and brainwash innocent people for no reason and let him destroy konoha's laws.

As for the 'Sasuke' that was a threat to keep Danzou away he could be easily bluffing he never did it so that's irrelevant,

he threatened and extorted his own people. ninjas have been killed for less.

all Itachi did was protect the leaf.

all itachi did was help destroy the leaf and leave it utterly defenceless vs all threats. he ensured akatsuki was stronger than ever and did nothing to even slow orochimaru down

Uchiha was the stronger than the average ninja and the fact that you say that's good odds proves you know shit. I would rather take then out than risk people dying if the coupe went down the Uchiha would of died just lots of innocents and military force would died so yeah making Itachi do it was the best option.

itachi went insane and commmitted genocide. he butchered his mother and shoved a sword in her back. didnt he wonder why they were pushed to this? didnt he think that some would be better served being put on trial than simply murdered in their sleep?
like i said, the uchihas were just as scared and human as anyone else in the village. show force and they will surrender. kill the ringleaders at MOST. what did random uchiha number 22 aged 13 do to deserve this? refuse to turn on his parents? if anything they should have promoted half the clan for their loyalty and choosing loved ones over strangers. isnt that what konoha's supposed to be about? a clan of ninjas who make hard choices for their family? uchihas viewed their revolution as hard but necessary. all they needed to understand is the element of surprise was lost and theyd only die trying.
itachi undoubtely murdered babies since sasuke couldnt possibly be the only kid under 12 left if uchihas were as strong and numerous as you claim.

They were planning to take-over why would they be up-front about it

idiot if they are planning ot take over and are strong enough to do it, they wouldnt need to sneak about like rats. theyd be like zod in man of steel and declare dominion, killing anyone who disagrees. but they arent strong enough to do even that meaning they wouldnt do dik against a trained military of hundreds of thousands

You even said in your first post to you the Uchiha was the strongest so yes there was something to worry about they wanted no innocents too die

so what, the uchihas who werent fighting and merely knew about it are suddenly soiled and not innocent anymore? maybe theyb didnt want to MURDER THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. but oh no, itachi thinks they ALL need to die. because you know. its not like they knew uchihas werent bloodthirsty suicidal maniacs.
if they were made to understand it WAS suicide via a show of force, then crisis averted. easy. you said yourself their only goal was ruling, not wanton mass murdering

Once again he done that because Sasuke was a missing in and a Rouge ninja. And that proves how dumb Danzou is to even push Itachi buttons.

so you admit itachi will murder a konoha high ranking officer because his evil traitorous brother is trying to be stopped?

He never tried to stop a WAR, he stopped the civil war in the Leaf and he stopped it form being attack while he was alive.

there was never going to be such a war as uchihas were too weak so he stopped nothing. and moreover, he helped start a world war

Itachi protected the Leaf while he was alive,

itachi ensured konohas destruction when he was alive by doing nothing about the most powerful enemy since madara. pain could walk in any time and take naruto, he was just waiting on obitos order.
oro actually DID just walk in and try to take sasuke out from under konoha and itachis noses.
he would have succeeded if it werent for gaara being too wounded by sasuke to rampage.

, what was he supposed to do Pain when he was dead

being dead didnt stop him trying to kill obito. but he had ZERO plans for obito's top officer. which is inept and retarded underestimation

never said that I was talking about the dumb-ass who said Itachi didn't do shit to the akatsuki, I'm think what is supposed to do kill them?

YES. and if he cant do that then LEAVE and prepare konoha's defences. he wasted everyones vaulable time being a supposed spy yet not learning anything useful. konoah was clueless because of his inept embarassingly bad spy work

As for your other point Obito clearly say after Itachi dies that he's not in the way and he can attack the Leaf.

no he didnt. actually he never mentioned anything about konoha. he said a thorn in his side is gone. he was waiting for itachi to die TO GET SASUKE.he didnt give a shit about konoha. he just wanted the ammo to recruit sasuke with.
he ordered nagato to go to konoha when itachi was still alive.
kakuzu and hidan very nearly got to konoha's borders but were intercepted.


no gai did. itachi ordered kisame to murder kakashi in cold blood

Obito is haxed so yeah nobody without intel in the show part from jins FTG users could beat Obito. Obito felt that threatened by Itachi he never laid a finger in the Leaf and he kept secrets, Itachi had Obito at his mercy this was shown ckearly in the manga.

itachi was powerless vs obito and completely at his mercy. obito was allowed to do wahtever he wanted for 7 years. itachi didnt even slow him down. as shown when kakuzu and hidan nearly got to konoha's borders. obito felt itachi was so unimportant and so weak that he ignored him and ordered kakuzu and hidan and pain to get naruto when itachi was alive. obito felt itach was so weak that he couldnt possibly kill him and his suspicions were confirmed when the amaterasu last ditch failed. obito knew the whole time itachi WANTED HIM DEAD and did he order his akatsukis to gangrape itachi? nope. because he believed the whole time that itachi didnt know enough. which he didnt.
if itachi is able to beat obi, he would have fukin done so

. Itachi was the one person protecting the Leaf.

itachi was the one person ensuring the leaf was defenceless and about to eb easily destroyed by akatsuki

Sasuke was fine before Obito got to him

sasuke was an evil monstrous traitorous sociopath before obito got there. he betrayed every single one of his friends for the lure of power from the guy who murdered hiruzen who was like a grandfather to him. he almost murdered naruto in cold blood, his BEST FRIEND apparently. he tried to kill naruto, sai, yamato and sakura ON A WHIM.
as for the chakra thing, thats baseless. sasuke probably believed his crimes pre obito to be the right thing to do hence no "evil chakra".

d he used Tskuomi on Kakshi because it isn't fatal.

so what, its ok to brutally torture and mindrape your own former comrade, or actual comrade as you seem to believe, by stabbing him with swords for 3 full days inside a nightmare hell dimension, which left him in a coma, BECAUSE IT WONT KILL HIM?

as for Sasuke he did what he did to make Sasuke hate him which was apart of his plan.

sasuke was brutally tortured into a coma and driven insane. thats what itachis plan is. cruelly rip his brother's sanity apart.

Your retarded, intel has shown to be vital in Naruto with intel Jiriyaya would of beat Nagato, without intel Naruto would of lost to Nagato. With intel Itachi would of killed Obito a while ago, Kisame died for intel so you point is relevant, intel has shown to be vital in Naruto.

yet itachi diddnt seem to believe intel to be all that important. he refused to tell konoha anything useful and refused to actually study his akatsuki teammates or spar with them to learn their powers.

It was plausible the the intel Jiriaya first got form Pain was froming Itachi.

all jiraiya knew was there was a POSSIBILITY the akatsuki leader was in the rain village. could easily have been a trap. oh wait it was.

nd if Itachi left the akasuki where would he go the akatsuki was the most helpful thing Itachi could of done for the village.

it ensured konoha got destroyed. itachi did nothing, nothing whatsoever except HELP the akatsuki become much stronger. this is a complete disaster and ensured konoha got massacred. his selfishness, stupidity and refusal to even slow down the various enemies of his home got it wiped out.

He never tried to stop Orochimaru he attack Itachi and then Itachi beat him.

and then itachi allowed him to escape for no reason and spend the next 7 years brutally torutring and murdering hundreds of innocent people.

He never attempted for Sasuke to kill innocent, I

yes he did. itachi is pure evil and didnt care one bit who had to die for his selfish plans. sasuke would have killed naruto on itachis advice if naruto didnt know how to heal via the kyuubi.

, Itachi even said he planned to make Sasuke a hero by letting Sasuke kill him.

which is impossible. sasuke wouldnt be a hero. hed be globally despised for becoming an insane traitor who was merely power hungry. sai voiced what everyone was already thinking. sasuke apparently took out oro and deidara, who are missing nins and no one called him a hero.
more importantly, the higher ups wouldnt so easily forgive. danzo would kill sasuke in his sleep.

also what kind of person does that? trick poor sasuke into thinking he killed him when he didnt, and tricking the world into thinking sasukes a heor when hes not and didnt do shit to make them think that? its manipulation and lies. thats all it is.
sasuke was trusted so little by his brother that he cant even forge an honest reputation.

The only corrupt person was Danzou

HAHAHAHAHAHA. they are all corrupt. they let danzo be hokage, they let uchihas die, they let kids kill each other in the forest of death, they order brutal actions like sending hizashi to die. and the people are rotten too, abusing sakumo and naruto endlessly.

More BS he never attempted to stop any of them, in fact Itachi was dead when Pain attacked you moron.

EXACTLY. he never attempted to stop the greatest threat the world has known since madara

He didn't fail those were Nagato's orders and also he he stopped and he did stop OBITO himself from attacking the Leaf, so no he didn't fail.

but he didnt. he didnt stop obito. obito just simply didnt want to.

Kabuto's legacy isn't Madra

yes it is. he revived him. a living reminder of how itachi ensured the worlds destruction

he she achieved in stopping the edo tensei just not Madra y

he didnt stop jackshit. kimiomaor and chiyo are FODDER and the rest were ALREADY DEFEATED AND SEALED. what did he stop? nothing. his time would have been much better served on the obito battlefield.

he could've easily if it wasn't for Obito and in fact Sauske was fighting for the village now in the manga.

so you admit that he would rather sasuke be a slave than use the slavery jutsu to defeat obito who is the greatest threat since real madara? this is suicidal, stupid and evil.

he stopped Kabuto. Tell me in the manga where it says that Madara was Kabuto's legacy.

the part where madara escapes the jutsu and becomes an independent zombie. you can thank kabuto for that

f he did he would of tired to beat Madra and Obito but he left Madara to the Gokage

naruto needed bee's help from the moment they left the island so no he wasnt trying to do everything alone. itachi is wrong

Itachi a man who protected Konoha his entire life

itachi a violent monstrous terrorist who ordered the murders of innocent people, tortured scared screaming children into comas, beat his brother to near death, unleashed threats to konoha and did nothing to even slow them down, ensured konoha got destroyed by pain and orochimaru, did nothing to inform konoha of information about akatsuki, let obito run rampant, sadistically and brutally tried to torture and murder kakashi.

saved the Shiniobi alliance and prevented a civil war and blood shed

he condemned the shinobi alliance to destruction death and massacre by unleashing madara from his confines and not going after the head honcho of the war first. whoever he "saved" by his actions in the war have died anyway to juubi and madara.

prevented a civil war and blood shed,

he started a world war by helping akatsuki and making them stronger, helped start a bloody invasion by doing nothing to even slow down orochimaru, and caused mass bloodshed by helping obito become a god. he corrupted sasuke who almost destroyed konoha because of itachis manipulations. hes one of the worst terrorists in naruverse

Hashirama while a great guy nearly handed over the village to his vengeful hateful guy just because he was his friend.

hashirama tried ot make the world better for everyone. even handing the bijuus as a peace treaty. when did itachi give one single fuk about the neighouring nations. if hes so loving and caing for innocents then why did he let obito do whatever he wanted, and only make obito leave konoha alone? did the thousands of civilians in kumo just not matter to him?
and you call a man who would abandon 4 cities to possible destruction a hero who prevents bloodshed?

 

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he didnt protect anything except himself

He didn't protect anyone? OK why did he protect Sasuke?​

kabuto knew he was coming and could have at any time, summoned more edos, or ended itachi himself. itachi ran in half cocked and believed his basic genjutsu enough to win

He believed normal gen fro enough lol Izinami is normal gen now?​

um yes everyone knew. the whole world knew a shinobi from konoha was allowed to kill a clan ad escape. this makes them look weak

That doesn't make them look weak, going by that logic the Mist is weak because Kisame went on a comrade killing spree. ​

hes not in the foundation so how cuold he be under danzo? i didnt see a seal on his tongue.
if hes not under hiruzen then hes under hiruzens appointed successor whom he saw fit to keep in the dark for no reason

Read the manga Itachi was reporting to Danzou and Hizuren agreed with the massacre aswell but he maonly reported to Danzou when it came to the coupe.
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most people in konoha are bloodthirsty mercenaries. and if you believe that how come itachi told sasuke to murder innocent people for the mangekeyo

So what the kids and the normal civilians were mercenaries? And he told Sasuke to kill his best friend not a bunch of random people.
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yuo just proved me right then. there was no threat level thus killing them all is pointless

No I never proved you right, the Uchiha without Itachi might not of been the strongest but they were still a threat. Wow your dumb a bunch of innocents still would of died.​

whos killing 1000 people? not the uchihas who you just admitted had lost their old prowess, were surrounded and lost the element of surprise

I never said they lost there prowess just there strongest member, and they wouldn't of caught of guard it would be obvious if a whole village tried to attack again they couldn't risk innocent by standers getting hurt.​

hiruzen died vs orochimaru because itachi stupidly let him go for no reason.
itachi let kabuto become a powerhouse who killed thousands of alliance shinobi and unleashed madara.
even if he didnt think that would happen, i thought he was all about the few vs the many.

Once again Orochimaru was Hizuren problem from the start and Itachi had just joined the akatsuki would he blow his cover by going out of his way to kill another members. Please tell me where Itachi has ever encountered Kabuto beofre the unlocked Sage Mode.....he didn't. Once again my statement is still intact Itachi though about Konoha and his brother over himself.​

irrelevant. thats what itachi turned him into and what he was inevitably going to become

Nope watch Sasuke at the start of part 2 when his goal was Itachi and now after he learned the truth, at the start of shippuden he didn't even like to kill people now he's a murderer all because of Obito and Danzou.​

exactly. never. he never went after oro in any earnest way meaning he didnt care one bit about the konoha citizens being tortured and killed there

Your implying Itachi knew about that.......​

i think he should have after the massacre or during it. danzo was as big or bigger threat than his family was with his militant actions. if itachis big on love and peace and honor, surely danzo is a target for his murder spree.
after that, and after danzo got off scot free i think itachi accepted that he was gonna allow danzo to slaughter and brainwash innocent people for no reason and let him destroy konoha's laws.

Irrelevant Itachi didn't know much about Danzou plans in the dar and he worked directly under Hizuren he was an elder, so Itachi didn't kill him the only reason he would kill Danozu if he ordered to by Hizuren or he touch Sasuke, Danzou was still a elder despite what he done. And the last part what are you on about?
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he threatened and extorted his own people. ninjas have been killed for less.

Itachi people would of brought harm to the Leaf they had to be taken down.​

all itachi did was help destroy the leaf and leave it utterly defenceless vs all threats. he ensured akatsuki was stronger than ever and did nothing to even slow orochimaru down

How did he destroy the Leaf him letting the coupe go on would of done more which would of lead to deaths to be Uchiha and the Leaf's normal shinobi. And again your implying he knew what Oro was doing and that it wasn't Hizuren's job.
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itachi went insane and commmitted genocide. he butchered his mother and shoved a sword in her back. didnt he wonder why they were pushed to this? didnt he think that some would be better served being put on trial than simply murdered in their sleep?

Itachi never went insane? He was ordered to do what he did, his mom and his dad understood why he did it his dad even called him kind right before. Your implying Itachi had a choice Danou gave him two options:

Carry out the massacre and save the Leaf from civil war.

Or fight with his clan and most likely get his younger brother killed.

There was no option for trial, this proves your limited knowledge on this topic.​

like i said, the uchihas were just as scared and human as anyone else in the village. show force and they will surrender. kill the ringleaders at MOST. what did random uchiha number 22 aged 13 do to deserve this? refuse to turn on his parents? if anything they should have promoted half the clan for their loyalty and choosing loved ones over strangers. isnt that what konoha's supposed to be about? a clan of ninjas who make hard choices for their family? uchihas viewed their revolution as hard but necessary. all they needed to understand is the element of surprise was lost and theyd only die trying.
itachi undoubtely murdered babies since sasuke couldnt possibly be the only kid under 12 left if uchihas were as strong and numerous as you claim.

Nope it was basically said the only Uchiha that weren't apart of the coupe were, Itachi, ,Shusui and Sasuke your poor argument is based on alot of assumptions. ​

idiot if they are planning ot take over and are strong enough to do it, they wouldnt need to sneak about like rats. theyd be like zod in man of steel and declare dominion, killing anyone who disagrees. but they arent strong enough to do even that meaning they wouldnt do dik against a trained military of hundreds of thousands

You're an idiot this proves, if you want to take over and your strong you still don't do that, if they done that they might of won but with shit load of deaths and injures, the Uchiha was strong even Sasuke questioned if he could take out the police force. This proved you're simple minded.​

so what, the uchihas who werent fighting and merely knew about it are suddenly soiled and not innocent anymore? maybe theyb didnt want to MURDER THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. but oh no, itachi thinks they ALL need to die. because you know. its not like they knew uchihas werent bloodthirsty suicidal maniacs.
if they were made to understand it WAS suicide via a show of force, then crisis averted. easy. you said yourself their only goal was ruling, not wanton mass murdering

It was basically said every Uchiha who knew about was in it or they would of taken action like Shusui tried to do. And again read the manga, Itachi never thought they all had to die he was ordered to kill them all he had to lead with Hizuren just to save one.......at the end of the day it wasn't Itachi's call.
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so you admit itachi will murder a konoha high ranking officer because his evil traitorous brother is trying to be stopped?

Itachi wouldn't do that he threatened Danzou when Sasuke was an innocent kid, I dunno what Itachi would do now.​

there was never going to be such a war as uchihas were too weak so he stopped nothing. and moreover, he helped start a world war

You're stupid......... you said yourself the Uchiha was the strongest and if the coupe did break out lots would of died by Uchiha and the rest of Konoha. The Uchiha poilceforce were dangerous and would of taked out most people bar Kakashi and the relevant characters, agian innocents would of died, he never started a war Obito did.....
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itachi ensured konohas destruction when he was alive by doing nothing about the most powerful enemy since madara. pain could walk in any time and take naruto, he was just waiting on obitos order.
oro actually DID just walk in and try to take sasuke out from under konoha and itachis noses.
he would have succeeded if it werent for gaara being too wounded by sasuke to rampage.

Obito even highlighted himself that he couldn't touch the Leaf while he was alive so you're point is irrelevant, Pain never had to listen to Obito they just wanted the same thing. Oro never walked under Itachi's nose because Itachi wasn't in Konoha when the sound 4 came to take Sasuke.​

being dead didnt stop him trying to kill obito. but he had ZERO plans for obito's top officer. which is inept and retarded underestimation

Because Obito wanted Sasuke that why he took extra procautins to stop Obito, and Itachi didn't need plans for Pain because he knew Obito wasn't going to try shit, Obito felt threatened by Itachi so again you fail.
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YES. and if he cant do that then LEAVE and prepare konoha's defences. he wasted everyones vaulable time being a supposed spy yet not learning anything useful. konoah was clueless because of his inept embarassingly bad spy work

How would he prepare Konoha against Pain when's he's dead........ he was a good spy Kabuto himself points this out and Kabuto is the best spy in the show.​

no he didnt. actually he never mentioned anything about konoha. he said a thorn in his side is gone. he was waiting for itachi to die TO GET SASUKE.he didnt give a shit about konoha. he just wanted the ammo to recruit sasuke with.
he ordered nagato to go to konoha when itachi was still alive.
kakuzu and hidan very nearly got to konoha's borders but were intercepted.

If he wasn't bothered or threatened by Itachi why didn't he order Nagato sooner why was he so afraid and cautious of Itachi he had to keep secrets and Obito said himself that he agreement with Itachi was over when he died which basically saying he kept their agreement so Itachi was a threat. Oh yeah Nagato never acted until Itachi was dead.​

no gai did. itachi ordered kisame to murder kakashi in cold blood

Gai never came until after Itachi told him to stop go read the fight again Itachi tells Kisame to stop.​

itachi was powerless vs obito and completely at his mercy. obito was allowed to do wahtever he wanted for 7 years. itachi didnt even slow him down. as shown when kakuzu and hidan nearly got to konoha's borders. obito felt itachi was so unimportant and so weak that he ignored him and ordered kakuzu and hidan and pain to get naruto when itachi was alive. obito felt itach was so weak that he couldnt possibly kill him and his suspicions were confirmed when the amaterasu last ditch failed. obito knew the whole time itachi WANTED HIM DEAD and did he order his akatsukis to gangrape itachi? nope. because he believed the whole time that itachi didnt know enough. which he didnt.
if itachi is able to beat obi, he would have fukin done so

If Itachi was so powerless why didn't Obito kill him? Why did he feel so threatened he kept secrets? Why did he only act after Itachi's death? Obito never ordered Kakuzu and Hidan, Nagato did Obito wasn't Nagato's boss they just shared the same plan. If Itachi was so powerless he would of been killed long beofre he could act and if Itachi had no power why was Obito so scared.​

itachi was the one person ensuring the leaf was defenceless and about to eb easily destroyed by akatsuki

How did he make the Leaf defenceless you idiot.

Implying his job was to take down the akatsuki.​

sasuke was an evil monstrous traitorous sociopath before obito got there. he betrayed every single one of his friends for the lure of power from the guy who murdered hiruzen who was like a grandfather to him. he almost murdered naruto in cold blood, his BEST FRIEND apparently. he tried to kill naruto, sai, yamato and sakura ON A WHIM.
as for the chakra thing, thats baseless. sasuke probably believed his crimes pre obito to be the right thing to do hence no "evil chakra".

If Sasuke was so evil why didn't he never kill anyone when training with Orochimaru? Why did he stop Sugestu from killing those guys when he went to get Zabuza's sword? Why didn't he want to kill Diedra at first he only wanted info? Now lets look at Sasuke at the 5 Kage summit, chopped down samurai for standing in his way, Karin says Sasuke chakra had tunred clod and dark during the arc, he left Jugo and Sugestu for dead, and almost killed Karin. You see the difference now......and the only major difference in-between those periods of time was Obito teeling him everything.​

so what, its ok to brutally torture and mindrape your own former comrade, or actual comrade as you seem to believe, by stabbing him with swords for 3 full days inside a nightmare hell dimension, which left him in a coma, BECAUSE IT WONT KILL HIM?

Once again he wouldn't kill Kakshi but he couldn't not attack him seriously or Kakashi would of won, it was iether that or Kisame would of killed him.​

sasuke was brutally tortured into a coma and driven insane. thats what itachis plan is. cruelly rip his brother's sanity apart.

He done that so Sasuke would hate him, which would lead Sasuke into becoming strong which would protect him from Danzou and make him strong enough to beat his 'evil' big brother and returns as the Leaf's hero.​

yet itachi diddnt seem to believe intel to be all that important. he refused to tell konoha anything useful and refused to actually study his akatsuki teammates or spar with them to learn their powers.

Danouz seemed to have intel on them, also Itachi is the most plausible person to have been Jiriaya's 'source'.

all jiraiya knew was there was a POSSIBILITY the akatsuki leader was in the rain village. could easily have been a trap. oh wait it was.

It wasn't a trap really Jiraya went there and had he stayed inside his toad thing and done he scouting there he wouldn't of gotten caught. You're talking like Pain was just sitting there waiting for the second Jiraya popped out.​

it ensured konoha got destroyed. itachi did nothing, nothing whatsoever except HELP the akatsuki become much stronger. this is a complete disaster and ensured konoha got massacred. his selfishness, stupidity and refusal to even slow down the various enemies of his home got it wiped out

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Once again this point is irrelevant because he slowed Obito down and stopped him from personally attacking the village so you're wrong. A;so if you're referring to Pain you're a dumb ass he attacked after Itachi's death. Itachi has never ensured Konoha got massacred unless you wanna show me a scan saying otherwise.
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and then itachi allowed him to escape for no reason and spend the next 7 years brutally torutring and murdering hundreds of innocent people.

Itachi doesn't randomly kill people and considering they were both apart of the akatsuki why would he kill him? As for the other part your implying Itachi had knowledge on Orchimaru.​

yes he did. itachi is pure evil and didnt care one bit who had to die for his selfish plans. sasuke would have killed naruto on itachis advice if naruto didnt know how to heal via the kyuubi.

Itachi told Sasuke to do that so he would get the MS and be strong hence Sasuke would be safe that's the one 'selfish' thing Itachi has done.​

which is impossible. sasuke wouldnt be a hero. hed be globally despised for becoming an insane traitor who was merely power hungry. sai voiced what everyone was already thinking. sasuke apparently took out oro and deidara, who are missing nins and no one called him a hero.
more importantly, the higher ups wouldnt so easily forgive. danzo would kill sasuke in his sleep.

Nobody thought Sasuke was an insane traitor hence they wouldn't of tired saving him idiot. Sasuke killed Orchimaru and everyone had mixed opinions he later attacked the Kage summit which ruined it if he killed both Itachi and Oro and not joined the akatsuki he would of been a hero if he returned.​

also what kind of person does that? trick poor sasuke into thinking he killed him when he didnt, and tricking the world into thinking sasukes a heor when hes not and didnt do shit to make them think that? its manipulation and lies. thats all it is.
sasuke was trusted so little by his brother that he cant even forge an honest reputation.

Yes Itachi would of let Sasuke kill him and yes he woud of been considered a hero I don't see what's so bad,you saying manipulation so what it would be better than the truth which would put the Leaf in political turmoil and would of tarnished Hiazuren's name.Also if he had learned the truth he would of wanted to take revenge sooner. Manipulation was the better thing in this situation.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA. they are all corrupt. they let danzo be hokage, they let uchihas die, they let kids kill each other in the forest of death, they order brutal actions like sending hizashi to die. and the people are rotten too, abusing sakumo and naruto endlessly.

Hizuren wasn't corrupted nobody let Danzou be Hokage, Tsunade was out and Danzou has superiority over most already. The Uchiha died because they would of started a civil war, also Neji's dad had to die or that could of kicked started a war between the Cloud and Leaf........... wow you couldn't even see that. Naruto wasn't abused because he was a bad kid everyone was scared of the Kyubbi inside of him even though it was still bad regardless.


EXACTLY. he never attempted to stop the greatest threat the world has known since madara


but he didnt. he didnt stop obito. obito just simply didnt want to.

He stopped Obito while he was alive Obito never attacked the Leaf so he did stop Obito.​

yes it is. he revived him. a living reminder of how itachi ensured the worlds destruction

What you said is stupid, he revived him Itachi didn't even know he was alive his mission was to get Kabuto to release the edo tensei and he was victorious, and I don't see how Itachi ensured the world destruction........ you make up so much BS.
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he didnt stop jackshit. kimiomaor and chiyo are FODDER and the rest were ALREADY DEFEATED AND SEALED. what did he stop? nothing. his time would have been much better served on the obito battlefield.

They're not fodder they killed plenty of allied shinobi and all the other edo were killing allies shinobi Itachi saved 1000s of lives.​

so you admit that he would rather sasuke be a slave than use the slavery jutsu to defeat obito who is the greatest threat since real madara? this is suicidal, stupid and evil.

He left Obito to Naruto........ also no he changed his mind about KA on Sasuke....your points are just becoming worse and worse.​

the part where madara escapes the jutsu and becomes an independent zombie. you can thank kabuto for that

Don't see how's that Itachi's fault, unless he should take a magical time machine and prevent Madara from learning the hand seals......?​

naruto needed bee's help from the moment they left the island so no he wasnt trying to do everything alone. itachi is wrong

How is Itachi wrong, you said that he told Naruto to stop trying to end the war by himself and he ignored when that's clearly not the case you're proving my point. Naruto could of broke out by himself.​

itachi a violent monstrous terrorist who ordered the murders of innocent people, tortured scared screaming children into comas, beat his brother to near death, unleashed threats to konoha and did nothing to even slow them down, ensured konoha got destroyed by pain and orochimaru, did nothing to inform konoha of information about akatsuki, let obito run rampant, sadistically and brutally tried to torture and murder kakashi.

The fact that you said he ordered the murder proves you know nothing, Danzou is the one who ordered it, what he dine to Sasuke i've already explained this he never ensured Konoha destruction Orochimaru was Hizuren problem while Itachi had limited intel and ITACHI WAS DEAD WHEN PAIN ATTACKED. Let Obito run rampant huh that's why he didn't touch the Leaf while Itachi was alive. Tired to murder Kakshi lol, if he wanted to he could of easily kill Kakashi.​

he condemned the shinobi alliance to destruction death and massacre by unleashing madara from his confines and not going after the head honcho of the war first. whoever he "saved" by his actions in the war have died anyway to juubi and madara.

He never unleashed Madra that was Kabuto the second he got revived the allience was ****ed. As for Obito he left that to Naruto.
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he started a world war by helping akatsuki and making them stronger, helped start a bloody invasion by doing nothing to even slow down orochimaru, and caused mass bloodshed by helping obito become a god. he corrupted sasuke who almost destroyed konoha because of itachis manipulations. hes one of the worst terrorists in naruverse

He never helped the akatsuki show me a scan of Itachi fighting a jin, he knew nothign about Orchimaru and he helped Obito how by making him stay away from the Leaf.

hashirama tried ot make the world better for everyone. even handing the bijuus as a peace treaty. when did itachi give one single fuk about the neighouring nations. if hes so loving and caing for innocents then why did he let obito do whatever he wanted, and only make obito leave konoha alone? did the thousands of civilians in kumo just not matter to him?
and you call a man who would abandon 4 cities to possible destruction a hero who prevents bloodshed?

Doesn't matter what you say i'm about to end this Hahisrama debate.

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