Minato vs Obito and Kakashi

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Kakashi is the first to go since he doesn't have Obito's intangibility nor does he have the ability to evade or counter a Hiraishin blitz, Obito would go down just like he did in canon.

Minato having clones, that can also teleport, makes this even easier for him, cause he can fight both of them at the same time, and since Kakashi can't Kamui him away or evade Hiraishin blitz, even a clone would be too much for him to handle.
 

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I seriously don't see how Minato can pull a win here.
As much as FTG can provide some counter to Kamui, it's two Kamui users here, both of which have Sharingan (well, duh, but I wanted to emphasize their increased perception), Kakashi was shown to have reflexes and reaction time on par with Minato, while Obito can go intangible.

Also, I doubt Minato would have time to gather chakra for Sage Mode when facing these two, unless he had prep time.
 

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Minato would probably take it. This chapter, he was shown to A) Enter SM -- B) Toss a Kunai at Madara's feet -- C) Make a Rasengan and D) Teleport. This is all before Kamui's activation time took place (not to mention Kakakshi actually started before Minato). Now that's what I call fast.
 

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Minato would probably take it. This chapter, he was shown to A) Enter SM -- B) Toss a Kunai at Madara's feet -- C) Make a Rasengan and D) Teleport. This is all before Kamui's activation time took place (not to mention Kakakshi actually started before Minato). Now that's what I call fast.

That was only made for the flow of the plot (to make the moves of all three characters synchronous). Kakashi activated the MS before Minato threw the Kunai. So if people tell me it is faster to throw a Kunai before the feet of a distanced person, enter Sage Mode and make a Rasengan before Kakashi warps the target, then Kamui is the technique which is flawed. Lol
 

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Minato would probably take it. This chapter, he was shown to A) Enter SM -- B) Toss a Kunai at Madara's feet -- C) Make a Rasengan and D) Teleport. This is all before Kamui's activation time took place (not to mention Kakakshi actually started before Minato). Now that's what I call fast.

Actually, he tossed the Kunai before going to SM, and it was at same time Kakashi used Kamui, then Minato goes to SM, while Kakashi kamui Obito but cancelled, then Minato teleports. Kakashi was faster.
 

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That was only made for the flow of the plot (to make the moves of all three characters synchronous). Kakashi activated the MS before Minato threw the Kunai. So if people tell me it is faster to throw a Kunai before the feet of a distanced person, enter Sage Mode and make a Rasengan before Kakashi warps the target, then Kamui is the technique which is flawed. Lol

Playing the plot card, Strict? It happened.

Actually, he tossed the Kunai before going to SM, and it was at same time Kakashi used Kamui, then Minato goes to SM, while Kakashi kamui Obito but cancelled, then Minato teleports. Kakashi was faster.

The point still stands. After the Kunai was tossed, Kakashi started his Kamui activation around the same time. Then, Minato entered SM, made a Rasengan, and Kamui has just started taking effect.
 

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The point still stands. After the Kunai was tossed, Kakashi started his Kamui activation around the same time. Then, Minato entered SM, made a Rasengan, and Kamui has just started taking effect.

It shows Kakashi was faster.
 

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It also shows that Minato was able to 3 things in the time it took Kakashi to do one.

1st panel - Kakashi activates MS and Kamui
2nd panel - Minato throws the Kunai
3rd panel - Minato activates SM
5th panel - Kakashi uses Kamui on Obito but cancelled
6th panel - Minato teleports

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1st panel - Kakashi activates MS and Kamui
2nd panel - Minato throws the Kunai
3rd panel - Minato activates SM
5th panel - Kakashi uses Kamui on Obito but cancelled
6th panel - Minato teleports

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Wait, I thought the Kamui got cancelled because ? Though, look at your own analysis. In the time it took Kakashi to activate Kamui, Minato had already tossed his Kunai and entered SM. In a fight, Minato will already have pre-prepped Kunai, as he always does.
 

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Wait, I thought the Kamui got cancelled because ? Though, look at your own analysis. In the time it took Kakashi to activate Kamui, Minato had already tossed his Kunai and entered SM. In a fight, Minato will already have pre-prepped Kunai, as he always does.

Obito it. Realize the moment he activates MS, he says ''Kamui''. Either way, i believe war arc Kakashi would beat Minato.
 

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Obito it. Realize the moment he activates MS, he says ''Kamui''. Either way, i believe war arc Kakashi would beat Minato.
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How does Obito stabbing Madara have anything to do with Kamui's cancellation? Kakashi was mid way through warping Obito here [ ], and in the page straight after, Kakashi looks to be in shock as Minato's arm is coming directly his way [ ] after having it severed by Madara. Obito didn't cancel it, Madara just disrupted the warp by kicking Minato's arm his way. Proof of Obito not cancelling Kamui is further supported here [ ]. A few pages prior to their little skirmish, Obito had a 3T activated. It was only when he pierced Madara was he shown to have a Mangekyo.
 
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How does Obito stabbing Madara have anything to do with Kamui's cancellation? Kakashi was mid way through warping Obito here [ ], and in the page straight after, Kakashi looks to be in shock as Minato's arm is coming directly his way [ ] after having it severed by Madara. Obito didn't cancel it, Madara just disrupted the warp by kicking Minato's arm his way. Proof of Obito not cancelling Kamui is further supported here [ ]. A few pages prior to their little skirmish, Obito had a 3T activated. It was only when he pierced Madara was he shown to have a Mangekyo.

Uhhh? Do you not see Obito activating his MS? he cancelled with his own Kamui.
 

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Kakashi and Obito take this. Obito - given that this is not kid Obito - already has a developed intel through self-experience. He isn't falling for the same trick Minato used on him twice. Considering the fact that Kakashi acted faster than Minato also goes against him. Obito and Kakashi win this with ease.
 

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Lol, no. He wasn't.

Oh, but he was. It's no surprise, considering he has Sharingan.
Somebody stubborn would point out that Kakashi had a longer way to Obito than Minato, which would make combination of Kakashi's reflexes and reaction even better than Minato's, but I feel that's paying too much attention to, most likely, irrelevant details.

The fact that Kakashi leaped towards Obito just as fast as Minato is hardly debatable, though.

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As Madara Rules has said, the reason Kamui failed was because Obito cancelled it, not because Kakashi was interrupted. Kamui was cast at the exact moment when Kakashi said "Kamui" and it was much faster than what Minato did.
 
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Oh, but he was. It's no surprise, considering he has Sharingan.
Somebody stubborn would point out that Kakashi had a longer way to Obito than Minato, which would make combination of Kakashi's reflexes and reaction even better than Minato's, but I feel that's paying too much attention to, most likely, irrelevant details.

The fact that Kakashi leaped towards Obito just as fast as Minato is hardly debatable, though.


No clue what you are even talking about. Why don't you post a scan?
 

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Kakashi & obito take this.

Minato's kunai are deflected & blocked by either obito's shuriken & kunai spam or kakashi's doton wall.

Kakashi can teleport as well, & since one can't sense a kamui users chakra until they appear back in the real world, the team can launch multiple kamui attacks from different directions simultaneously.

Clones are either taken down or pushed back by obito's katon. Or even better obito can place a barrier to trap the group & the kunai all at once.

& Warping minato isn't even necessary here, a raikiri, kunai, or shuriken can take him down just as well.

Minato can't take on two kamui users together.
 
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