Jiraiya strongest sage?

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Is it just me. But didn't Jiraiya's sage mode seem more useful and did more in his battle against Pain?
Every since that battle sage mode seemed cheapened.


Sorry for bad typing, on mobile.
 

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Minato with Sage mode is most likely the strongest
 

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No jiraiya was not a strongest sage

Strongest sages are
1-Hashirama
2-Naruto
3-Jiraiya/Minato
4-Kabuto
 

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Jiraya has the strongest SM out of TSM users at least.
Reasons:
Already insane base skills, evenly matched with Itachi.
Knowledge, variety of really useful jutsus and guts.

Now most will say oh imperfect SM blah blah.
Thats nothing but speculation.
His SM is imperfect only cuz he doesnt keep the perfect balance of 3 energies(nature,physic,spirit).

Not enough nature energy = pale eye marks.
perfect balance = perfect eye marks.
More nature energy = toad features.

So in essence jiraya gets more nature energy and stronger enhancement as result :cool:
 

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Are we talking about overall character strength or Sennin mode skill and prowess?
 

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kabuto is, I'd rather say, and the only weak point of his is the plot which obviously was against him.
 

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Jiraya has the strongest SM out of TSM users at least.
Reasons:
Already insane base skills, evenly matched with Itachi.
Knowledge, variety of really useful jutsus and guts.

Now most will say oh imperfect SM blah blah.
Thats nothing but speculation.
His SM is imperfect only cuz he doesnt keep the perfect balance of 3 energies(nature,physic,spirit).

Not enough nature energy = pale eye marks.
perfect balance = perfect eye marks.
More nature energy = toad features.

So in essence jiraya gets more nature energy and stronger enhancement as result :cool:

In order for him to really utilize SM, he needed Ma and Pa
 

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Yes, he had more OP jutsus with his SM than naruto, but kabuto's DSM jutsus are the most OP.
 

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I see where your getting at bro. Ya naruto and hashi have technically more powerful sm but it seemed like when jiraiyi had it it seemed more useful and diverse. We have yet to see anyone fuse with a sage creature
 

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Seriously Kabuto wasn't that strong. The only reason Itachi didn't solo his ass is because he needed him alive.
 

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lol Kabuto > Naruto & Minato > Naruto .
Foolish kid, use your mind rather than your ass

Minato is not > naruto in SM and SM naruto can stomp DSM kabuto anytime , anywhere by using his frog kumite or frog song U_U
 

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His has a lot more variation, coupled with the fact that he has the advantages of ma and pa, and can spit toad oil, but FRS is a LOT of destructive force to deal with. Not only that, but it also seems like he lacks the sensing skills Nardo gained with his SM.
 
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