does orochimaru now have zetsu abillities?

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How is it a theory? The portions I posted have sources to them. Autopsy made it clear they are made from Hashirama's cells and have access to Wood Release. Furthermore they were boosted up by Kabuto. But since you're the kinda guy who needs to have things spellled out for him, here goes:

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How is it a theory? The portions I posted have sources to them. Autopsy made it clear they are made from Hashirama's cells and have access to Wood Release. Furthermore they were boosted up by Kabuto. But since you're the kinda guy who needs to have things spellled out for him, here goes:

You're the kind of person that should read, understand and think before posting. I wasn't referring to Orochimaru's body stealing jutsu or the Zetsus. The Zetsus aren't a complete human and further more they are clones. So they are even further from normal humans, meaning that Orochimaru's jutsu may work differently on them. He may or he may not be able to use their abilites, but there are no proof that he is yet.
 

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hhm i didnt know this.. time to do some digging trough the manga :p
edit: nope, here you can see a zetsu clone creating more zetsu ^.^
on this: you can see the original zetsu reporting to tobi.
I believe the first link is the Original zetsu, who gets told to check up on Kisama some time later.
The Original lacks half a face as well.
 

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Orochimaru can't poop nuff has been said.
 

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I believe the first link is the Original zetsu, who gets told to check up on Kisama some time later.
The Original lacks half a face as well.

the one we saw at tobi had the "coat" thingie like he wears when black and white zetsu are together so i think he was the original zetsu.. secondly tobi could tell his task to whichever zetsu he wants since they communicate telepathically.. but thats just my opinion on that ^.^ i could be wrong but i think the chance of me being right is bigger.
 
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Bad, bad, bad reasoning, Katakitsu. It doesn't matter if Orochimaru transfers his soul to a dog. If he can inherit the ability to not defecate, he can inherit any ability the host BODY has. Furthermore the Zetsu ARE homunculi based on a HUMAN and Sakura claimed they are basically clones of the first Hokage. FUTHERMORE they were used as tributes for Impure World Resurrection to revive HUMANS.
 

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Bad, bad, bad reasoning, Katakitsu. It doesn't matter if Orochimaru transfers his soul to a dog. If he can inherit the ability to not defecate, he can inherit any ability the host BODY has. Furthermore the Zetsu ARE homunculi based on a HUMAN and Sakura claimed they are basically clones of the first Hokage. FUTHERMORE they were used as tributes for Impure World Resurrection to revive HUMANS.

Ha ha win....
 

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You're the kind of person that should read, understand and think before posting. I wasn't referring to Orochimaru's body stealing jutsu or the Zetsus. The Zetsus aren't a complete human and further more they are clones. So they are even further from normal humans, meaning that Orochimaru's jutsu may work differently on them. He may or he may not be able to use their abilites, but there are no proof that he is yet.

Honestly bro, when it's blatantly obvious you're probably wrong you shouldn't keep trying to argue that you're right. It just makes you look like a fool.

The way Orochimaru's body transfer jutsu works is he gains the abilities of the host body. We've known this for a long time. That's why he wanted Kimmimaro and Sasuke, both of whom have kekkai genkai. Tell me, why would he not gain the zetsu's powers from taking their body? There's no reason why not.

While people typically refer to your average white zetsu as a "Zetsu clone" It is still a living being. It's not like a shadow clone. It's simply a clone created from Hashirama's DNA. If someone made an actual human clone of you, would it not be human, since it's a clone? That makes no sense, but it's basically what you're saying.

Zetsu clones are not shadow clones. Two completely different things. If that were the case then Orochimaru wouldn't have been able to take the body to begin with, or use them for edo tensei.

Orochimaru having taken it's body should grant him all of the abilities of the zetsu whose body he took. There's really no real reason to argue that is not the case.
 

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Honestly bro, when it's blatantly obvious you're probably wrong you shouldn't keep trying to argue that you're right. It just makes you look like a fool.

The way Orochimaru's body transfer jutsu works is he gains the abilities of the host body. We've known this for a long time. That's why he wanted Kimmimaro and Sasuke, both of whom have kekkai genkai. Tell me, why would he not gain the zetsu's powers from taking their body? There's no reason why not.

While people typically refer to your average white zetsu as a "Zetsu clone" It is still a living being. It's not like a shadow clone. It's simply a clone created from Hashirama's DNA. If someone made an actual human clone of you, would it not be human, since it's a clone? That makes no sense, but it's basically what you're saying.

Zetsu clones are not shadow clones. Two completely different things. If that were the case then Orochimaru wouldn't have been able to take the body to begin with, or use them for edo tensei.

Orochimaru having taken it's body should grant him all of the abilities of the zetsu whose body he took. There's really no real reason to argue that is not the case.
i shouldve just used all these points to begin with.. but i'm too lazy for that ^.^ thanks for explaining it in a way that everyone can understand ;)
 

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Bad, bad, bad reasoning, Katakitsu. It doesn't matter if Orochimaru transfers his soul to a dog. If he can inherit the ability to not defecate, he can inherit any ability the host BODY has. Furthermore the Zetsu ARE homunculi based on a HUMAN and Sakura claimed they are basically clones of the first Hokage. FUTHERMORE they were used as tributes for Impure World Resurrection to revive HUMANS.

So its bad reasoning that he may or may not have gained those abilities? Seems odd, as you argued for one of those. I am simply stating that you cannot be certain until its shown. They aren't the same as your average human, which is why you are trying to say it seems. They lack several things that humans do have. Such as a soul, because if Madara was able to create souls then he must've used something as powerful as Creation of all Things. Which is highly doubtable. The only traits I can see being useful to Oro is the extremely strong body. As I can't recall seeing a normal Zetsu preform Mokuton and if he is able to absorb chakra like them then he would need to split open his body like them. But as I said again and again. He may or he may not have gained the abilties, but as I also said. I cannot recall seeing a normal Zetsu perform Mokuton. The only one I can recall is Spiral, and he is somewhat special.

Though it is true that Oro would need something on the level with Mokuton if he wishes to even be a threat after Madara is gone.
 

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Lol oh my god he's still at it? XD

Zetsu do indeed have souls or else they would not be alive and would not have been used as tributes for Impure World Resurrection. They do not lack anything humans have as stated by the original Zetsu himself. They are smart like humans, have emotions such as fear like humans, they live and die like humans...But you need more? Creation of All Things was actually hinted to be used to make Zetsu:


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Madara Uchiha has insinuated that Yin–Yang Release was involved in the creation of White Zetsu and his clone siblings."

Also, Black Zetsu has used Wood Release, so has Spiral Zetsu, and Sakura claimed every White Zetsu has access to the ability since they are clones of the first. GG.
 

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So its bad reasoning that he may or may not have gained those abilities? Seems odd, as you argued for one of those. I am simply stating that you cannot be certain until its shown. They aren't the same as your average human, which is why you are trying to say it seems. They lack several things that humans do have. Such as a soul, because if Madara was able to create souls then he must've used something as powerful as Creation of all Things. Which is highly doubtable. The only traits I can see being useful to Oro is the extremely strong body. As I can't recall seeing a normal Zetsu preform Mokuton and if he is able to absorb chakra like them then he would need to split open his body like them. But as I said again and again. He may or he may not have gained the abilties, but as I also said. I cannot recall seeing a normal Zetsu perform Mokuton. The only one I can recall is Spiral, and he is somewhat special.

Though it is true that Oro would need something on the level with Mokuton if he wishes to even be a threat after Madara is gone.

Well oro tech places his soul into the host body, so the clones don't need to have a soul for it to work. In fact I would say it would make it easer because he won't have to confine its soul. I do however agree with you slightly on the fact that it could go either way but logiclly oro tech rules apply human or not.
 

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You know, if Orochimaru uses Zetsu's ability to transform into another person through his chakra, he could become an Uchiha just by copying Sasuke's chakra xD. That's what he has always wanted. Plus he would get Rinnegan, because he has Senju Dna. LOL.
 
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