Hiashi Hyuuga vs 3T Itachi Uchiha

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I said the niga's argument sounds convincing, that automatically means im tip riding -____-

and no one takes this serious, as soon as a hyuuga is mentioned you go all preach mode, like niga calm down :cool:

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Bro im in chill mode just Cruising! Im good on my end. You definitely feel some type of way though.
 

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Ya'll both some bitches if you ask me.

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Huahhhh hahaha, Houston vs Golden State? Yessir. Just seen OKC lose smh!

Yea I only seen the end of the OKC game. SMH I gotta see the highlights since I had to work. I fux with Houston though, Curry head done gotten way to big for my taste!
 

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apparently kaiten blocks everything but juubi sticks.

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That is because neither you nor him know anything about the hyugas. If you did you would know Rotation does not work like he stated. And would Know Heavenly spin does not translate to Hakke Kuushou. lmmfao hahahahahahahaha I'll school you all one time.





1. Rotation is NOT Vaccum palm/kUUSHOU. Halve your argument was debunked with the fact you thought that. Plus the fact you did not know Hinato does not have nor know Rotaion.... lol Moving on.

2. You forget to list the fact All hyuga's know their . Plus the fact Neji at the time had a weak Byukugan that had that Particular Blind spot, but it was nothing even for his low level byakugan. And as a result this happened:

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Basically the "blind spot" claim is 100% out the window! plus the fact itachi doesn't even have the aresanal to expose and defeat that blind spot "THAT PARTICULAR BYUKUGAN" HAD. Neji in part 2 range wasnt a mear 50 meters any more. haha Unless itachi blah blah (magically) goes beyond 500 meters and attempt to find a moving hyugas blind spot... lol You get my drift! This is what A hyuga of neji's level see's when his byakugan is activated:

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And Hiashi's range is god levels beyond any other hyuga ever shown! Speed isn't the weakness and nothing shown has been fast enough that they cannot burst chakra out of their body then spin. And since it is from their body it is similar to the speed of susanoo (in pokemon it's priority would be Detect or Protect).

3. Byakugan allows them to detect and sense every moving thing accurately the moment it happens. Byakugan also allos one to see any and all chakra build up before it even happens to the ninja. Shunshin is a ninjutsu that uses chakra (manga fact), Hiashi easily see's it before it happens. Sharigan cannot predict chakra nor something that can happen last second or is un orthodox. Hyugas out class them in taijutsu it isn't even funny. Lets say Itachi dodges a standard punch from Hiashi; the moment after is ear/face is instanly blasted by a shit load of chakra that will instantly pin point a chakra sourse thus possibly deactivating his Sharingan (lets pretend it wouldn't though). Basically they would'nt even need 64 divinity, when there instant chakra would come from no where when ever they please.

So in short no matter how fast they are at dodging or striking, they have a way to combat it. And with hiashi no speed feat shown is beyond his eyes unfortunately (unless it is massively hyper sonic aka Beyond DBZ and bleach levels)

And I can use hiashi destroying fodders no diff as well if you wanna use hype on no names. Uchihas of that level got owned through the manga by fodders. Itachi is wayyyyy above them so it is nothing to brag about. And btw sharingan does not grant them immunity to taijutsu as seen through the manga.

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Neji is the one that stated that he was unable to spin fast enough to combat the attack that was incoming. You keep linking scans of their range. I don't think you understand what lee said very much
. I never denied any hyuuga would be able to see him coming.

"Even if you can see the attack, it's useless if your body can't do anything about it"
You think Sasuke didn't see lee coming either? It didn't matter, he couldn't react to lee and got kicked into the air
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It's going to be the same. The same as if Hiashi tried to go up against any person adept in speed. You think he's blocking A or Minato's shunshin speed as well? You're joking.
Hiashi see's chakra in his feet then what? Itachi appears behind him, just as he did against bee. It doesn't matter if he see's it, he's out sped , and hasn't displayed any reflexes or speed even near the level to combat Itachi.. Not to mention that he would still have the weakness of not being able to spin fast enough, as I stated before
 
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Woah there, I linked the wrong scans.
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Neji is the one that stated that he was unable to spin fast enough to combat the attack that was incoming. You keep linking scans of their range. I don't think you understand what lee said very much
. I never denied any hyuuga would be able to see him coming.

"Even if you can see the attack, it's useless if your body can't do anything about it"
You think Sasuke didn't see lee coming either? It didn't matter, he couldn't react to lee and got kicked into the air
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It's going to be the same. The same as if Hiashi tried to go up against any person adept in speed. You think he's blocking A or Minato's shunshin speed as well? You're joking.
Hiashi see's chakra in his feet then what? Itachi appears behind him, just as he did against bee. It doesn't matter if he see's it, he's out sped , and hasn't displayed any reflexes or speed even near the level to combat Itachi.. Not to mention that he would still have the weakness of not being able to spin fast enough, as I stated before

Hiashi kept spinning. lol It was neji who had problems, Hiashi Did not once complain. And It was multiple Stakes Back to back to back to back, Itachi does not have anything with that amount of numbers, Length, Power, speed behind his attacks that even come close to simulating what happened to NEJI! What is your point? Plus the fact Rotation isn't their only ways of countering speed. They can put up a chakra field that will alter and control anything with in it to allow them to perfectly react to even the fasted ninja shown not including Juubi jink's. The difference between the Raikages and other speedsters is The raikages have a tank for a body so they can afford to blitz and not worry about anything like counter attacks because of their amazing bodies. Minato/Itachi does have to worry etc etc.

And again Lee never ever ever ever Stated that about the Byakugan. Neji with out trying always defeated Lee with his amazing speed and Taijutsu. Sharingan and Byakugan Work differently so please stop comparing them. Only thing they have in common is that Sharingan can see the Color of chakra, while Byakugan Goes Ions further on what they see when it comes to chakra and the opponent.

And Bro it's ok if you though Kuushou was rotation.. You clearly took the time to underline the scans and everything. Itachi speed will never overwhelm A hyuga of his level in the slightest. It isn't even funny how useless his so called Amazing Shunshin is.
 

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And again Lee never ever ever ever Stated that about the Byakugan. Neji with out trying always defeated Lee with his amazing speed and Taijutsu.

Lee was speaking of the sharingan, but what he said would apply directly to the byakugan as well , considering one of the byakugan's primary abilities, and most famed is it's Vision.. Even if sasuke had byakugan instead, He'd be able to see Lee, but still not be able to react. I doesn't matter what the eye is.Byukagan allowing him to see tenketsu and a wider range IS not helping him against Itachi's speed;.


Only thing they have in common is that Sharingan can see the Color of chakra, while Byakugan Goes Ions further on what they see when it comes to chakra and the opponent.
The byakugan's extended unique qualities have NOTHING that would help them in a match up of speed. Infact, At least sharingan has movement prediction to aid them even a little.. Byakugan has nothing like that. Just as Nagato's pein got one shotted by Jiraya's speed when he entered sage mode, it's the exact same thing that would happen. If you can't react to it, you lose.

Neji with out trying always defeated Lee with his amazing speed and Taijutsu.
Are we really talking part 1 lee here? WHO HELD Back? did you not see neji shitting bricks when lee used gates an was zipping all over the place?

I'll repeat this once again, Hiashi has no reaction feets even close enough to deal with speedsters. Your entire argument relies on the power of his eye, which doesn't help his situation. Even if he can see it, he can't counter it. That is manga fact that has been stated since part 1. Even sharingan users and rinnegan users can be blitzed, regardless of if their eyes see the attack incoming.
In terms of speed, byakugan is in no way better at precognition than the sharingan, and even the sharingan can't help in such a scenario

You're making up hiashi's reaction and speed feets, when databook puts him below even neji in the speed department

You think hiashi magically has the body capable to react to people like Minato and A's speed. That's utter madness.
 
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Lee was speaking of the sharingan, but what he said would apply directly to the byakugan as well , considering one of the byakugan's primary abilities, and most famed is it's Vision.. Even if sasuke had byakugan instead, He'd be able to see Lee, but still not be able to react. I doesn't matter what the eye is.Byukagan allowing him to see tenketsu and a wider range IS not helping him against Itachi's speed;.



The byakugan's extended unique qualities have NOTHING that would help them in a match up of speed. Infact, At least sharingan has movement prediction to aid them even a little.. Byakugan has nothing like that. Just as Nagato's pein got one shotted by Jiraya's speed when he entered sage mode, it's the exact same thing that would happen. If you can't react to it, you lose.


Are we really talking part 1 lee here? WHO HELD Back? did you not see neji shitting bricks when lee used gates an was zipping all over the place?

I'll repeat this once again, Hiashi has no reaction feets even close enough to deal with speedsters. Your entire argument relies on the power of his eye, which doesn't help his situation. Even if he can see it, he can't counter it. That is manga fact that has been stated since part 1. Even sharingan users and rinnegan users can be blitzed, regardless of if their eyes see the attack incoming.
In terms of speed, byakugan is in no way better at precognition than the sharingan, and even the sharingan can't help in such a scenario

You're making up hiashi's reaction and speed feets, when databook puts him below even neji in the speed department

You think hiashi magically has the body capable to react to people like Minato and A's speed. That's utter madness.

Again they are not the same nor close to being the same. They have 1 thing in common, and they work differently in how they can achieve things. Lee never stated that about Neji and none of them cheap tricks ever worked. Ill explain.

Byakugan Allows you to sense and detect 360 Accurately basically, So no matter what happens or what you do they will know it before and the moment you Shunshin or do anything. They have 2 ways of stopping all speed users that uses Body flicker and even the Pure Taijutsu users who use Taijutsu to allow Speed (Lee and Guy do not use Shunshin).

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Just in case you didn't know the definition. And you even agreed They would be able to see and track Itachi so ima move on to the next point.

Then you compared the rinnegan to byakugan as if they are even close to working the same. lmmfao Really? Please leave the Rinnegan out of this, thanks!

Sharingan Works differently in the sense that they predict what you might/would do in front and front only! Once you leave there vision they have to then try to lock on to you once again and predict what you might do next. As seen with Kakashi and Zabuza, kakashi and Kakuzu, Sasuke and Naruto VOTE, sasuke and itachi, sasuke and killer bee etc etc etc.

Byakugan senses everything accurately 360! As in no matter where you might appear they have you tracked no diff! Unless you shrink to the size of a vertebrate about nickle size btw. They also detect everything the moment it happens no diff! So with that There abilities shine bright!

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Right before any attack lands! No matter how fast you think you might be they will always beat you since it takes Zero time to omit Chakra from ones body. Itachi does not have any attack or punch that will even make them smile! His shunshin will be useless since they would know chakra to feet equals trying to blitz and with there Vision whether behind or in front they can counter itachi with out even blinking!

Then we have the ability to see everything in a Freeze frame:

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With this effect and ability they see time as if it has stopped (that is how fast there eyes are working if you don't understand), Then having the ability to alter anything they please with pure chakra alone that is instant! Itachi will not only have all his attacks blocked no diff, he want be able to predict it either. A full body Blow will kill him or badly injure if to close as well.

Then you bring up Lee in gates as if Itachi has that Taijutsu Speed (he doesn't, shunshin isn't taijutsu if you didn't know). And Nor can Itachi hit even close to 1/16 the power lee possessed nor spam the speed lee spammed appearing almost instantly in multiple locations. And I guess lets ignore the fact Neji was keeping up and seeing everything lee was doing, and was surprised Lee had that ability; he wasn't scared or "shitting bricks". It was more so Surprised Lee had such a secret. Not once did he comment on "Too fast" or "too powerful" or "I cannot see anything" etc etc. SO please leave that alone unless you have words on kishi/manga stating this? Add Neji always held back as well since they were friends and teammates! Why would they fight to kill again???? Mute point.

Byakugan isnt rinnegan nor sharingan. Nor do any of them users (bar Nagato ST, or using Susanoo) have the ability to defend themselves instantly! Unless you can show an sharingan user No susanoo having a better def then Omitting Chakra instantly from there body??? Can either eyes do this:

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Hit 64 times and move there body in conjunction in mere seconds? There eyes and body is adapt to fast movement it isn't even funny. To preform 64 Divinity you have to have the eyes to be able to react instantly since each hit is precise and pinpoint with perfect detail one after another and would need the body to move your arms and torso with your arms and hands and feet moving in such a high speed to the point you see literally nothing but one motion hitting them multiple times! Itachi has never shown anything on that level of speed, using a few handseals fast is childsplay, Throwing kunais that you can see and see his arm moving is also childsplay. When 64 divinity is in play you see nothing but after hits after he has counted (4, 8, 16, 32, 64). Only Gai has shown anything close to this ability, and he needed 6 gates to achieve it.

Please stop using the outdated Databook! please! Unless you are saying Kurenai is equal to itachi in genjutsu? Or Gai and kisame is equal to Tsunade in strength? etc etc I can keep going on how flawed that out dated thing is it isnt even funny! The fact that you are relying on it speaks volumes...

And just in case you still do not get it. It takes no time to omit chakra from there body, they do not have to move a muscle! That is why you cannot compare them to the other eyes since they have to move to react or block any attack that might happen. Learn the difference please! And detect and sense everything accurately and see anything chakra related before it happens>Body prediction. Since sharinagn has to read and predict is the reason they cannot react to speed demons with out having o use Susanoo (Sasuke vs Aye prime example). Hyuga's have chakra as there def and means to alter attacks and counter attack. Show a 3 tomoe user using chakra from there entire body then we can compare the eyes... I'll wait.. His basic Ninjutsu usless, taijutsu useless, speed useless, genjutsu useless. What is next itachi is god as usual?
 

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And are you also saying Itachi can keep up with or match lee or Gai 5 gates+?????? lmao
 

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lmao, Drae's going all out.

lol bro I haven't even yet to get serious because he hasn't said anything to make a point. Just countering his stander post strategy with basic Hyuga abilities.
 

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Lee was speaking of the sharingan, but what he said would apply directly to the byakugan as well , considering one of the byakugan's primary abilities, and most famed is it's Vision.. Even if sasuke had byakugan instead, He'd be able to see Lee, but still not be able to react. I doesn't matter what the eye is.Byukagan allowing him to see tenketsu and a wider range IS not helping him against Itachi's speed;.



The byakugan's extended unique qualities have NOTHING that would help them in a match up of speed. Infact, At least sharingan has movement prediction to aid them even a little.. Byakugan has nothing like that. Just as Nagato's pein got one shotted by Jiraya's speed when he entered sage mode, it's the exact same thing that would happen. If you can't react to it, you lose.


Are we really talking part 1 lee here? WHO HELD Back? did you not see neji shitting bricks when lee used gates an was zipping all over the place?

I'll repeat this once again, Hiashi has no reaction feets even close enough to deal with speedsters. Your entire argument relies on the power of his eye, which doesn't help his situation. Even if he can see it, he can't counter it. That is manga fact that has been stated since part 1. Even sharingan users and rinnegan users can be blitzed, regardless of if their eyes see the attack incoming.
In terms of speed, byakugan is in no way better at precognition than the sharingan, and even the sharingan can't help in such a scenario

You're making up hiashi's reaction and speed feets, when databook puts him below even neji in the speed department

You think hiashi magically has the body capable to react to people like Minato and A's speed. That's utter madness.

You judged wrongly..the second data book says neji's speed is 4 and then the 3rd says his speed is 4.5..second says hiash's speed is 4..third doesn't rank hiashi at all so whether his speed increased is unknown..however, sasuke who's speed is nothing compared to that of the raikage's ,managed to react to him

and the difference between their speed is much,itachi has a 5 in speed while hiashi has a 4..the gap between them in terms of speed shouldn't be that much
also naruto who was faster than neji when using his nine tails chakra mode was reacted to,


Comparing itachi's speed to lee's speed is out of the question because lee is faster in his gates
 

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You judged wrongly..the second data book says neji's speed is 4 and then the 3rd says his speed is 4.5..second says hiash's speed is 4..third doesn't rank hiashi at all so whether his speed increased is unknown..however, sasuke who's speed is nothing compared to that of the raikage's ,managed to react to him

and the difference between their speed is much,itachi has a 5 in speed while hiashi has a 4..the gap between them in terms of speed shouldn't be that much
also naruto who was faster than neji when using his nine tails chakra mode was reacted to,


Comparing itachi's speed to lee's speed is out of the question because lee is faster in his gates

And to add to this post; Neji reacted perfectly no diff to Nine tails cloak naruto and matched his speed With out using all the abilities his byakugan had. While Sasuke with un-weighted lee' speed and SHARINGAN got destroyed no difficulty by naruto who used kyubi cloak (kimmi destroyed an army of Kyubi cloak narutos btw).


And I think he really thinks Itachi is faster then Guy/Lee in gates... smh
 
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Itachi wins mid to high difficulty.

  • Itachi is firstly faster. Hiashi's speed in Databook's is about 4, while he has 5. Hiashi is not closing his chakra way even hardly. Itachi also can see the chakra build up with his Sharingan and movements, predicting where he tries to land. The attacks go as far, as seeing attacks from five frames behind.


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  • Second of all, Hiashi has no counter to Utakata. Seeing is 30 meters, Hiashi is not running zigzag if he attempts CQC. Itachi easily points out his finger and snap.


  • Third of all, the area is advantegous. In this case, to attack him with Suiton while having constant water supply. He can easily attack him with Suigadan from below. Note that Itachi made hand seals so fast, Jōnin members failed to realize it. Suiryūdan and Katon from his Kage Bunshin would be fatal. Hiashi would be on defensive, spamming Kaiten. Assuming even a Bunshin Daibakuha would bust the defense.


Hiashi has nothing on Itachi. Just vision that is useless.
 
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Itachi wins mid to high difficulty.

  • Itachi is firstly faster. Hiashi's speed in Databook's is about 4, while he has 5. Hiashi is not closing his chakra way even hardly. Itachi also can see the chakra build up with his Sharingan and movements, predicting where he tries to land. The attacks go as far, as seeing attacks from five frames behind.


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  • Second of all, Hiashi has no counter to Utakata. Seeing is 30 meters, Hiashi is not running zigzag if he attempts CQC. Itachi easily points out his finger and snap.


  • Third of all, the area is advantegous. In this case, to attack him with Suiton while having constant water supply. He can easily attack him with Suigadan from below. Note that Itachi made hand seals so fast, Jōnin members failed to realize it. Suiryūdan and Katon from his Kage Bunshin would be fatal.


Hiashi has nothing on Itachi. Just vision that is useless.

Most of what you stated makes no sense at all. And the rest has been countered no diff. Did you even read the thread??? Just sit back and allow Owarji to represent Itachi alone please... smh
 

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You judged wrongly..the second data book says neji's speed is 4 and then the 3rd says his speed is 4.5..second says hiash's speed is 4..third doesn't rank hiashi at all so whether his speed increased is unknown..however, sasuke who's speed is nothing compared to that of the raikage's ,managed to react to him

and the difference between their speed is much,itachi has a 5 in speed while hiashi has a 4..the gap between them in terms of speed shouldn't be that much
also naruto who was faster than neji when using his nine tails chakra mode was reacted to,


Comparing itachi's speed to lee's speed is out of the question because lee is faster in his gates
You forgot to factor in that none of those people had pre-cog. Pre-cog cancels precog so You no longer have the advantage of precog to pad your lack of speed - which was the case in those fights. Now it's speed vs speed because when you precog, they precog. + by manga feats, sharingan precog's > Byakugan meaning itachi's faster + has better perception. Hiashi has no chance to react, once he tries, itachi adjusts.
Again they are not the same nor close to being the same. They have 1 thing in common, and they work differently in how they can achieve things. Lee never stated that about Neji and none of them cheap tricks ever worked. Ill explain.

Byakugan Allows you to sense and detect 360 Accurately basically, So no matter what happens or what you do they will know it before and the moment you Shunshin or do anything. They have 2 ways of stopping all speed users that uses Body flicker and even the Pure Taijutsu users who use Taijutsu to allow Speed (Lee and Guy do not use Shunshin).



Just in case you didn't know the definition. And you even agreed They would be able to see and track Itachi so ima move on to the next point.

Then you compared the rinnegan to byakugan as if they are even close to working the same. lmmfao Really? Please leave the Rinnegan out of this, thanks!

Sharingan Works differently in the sense that they predict what you might/would do in front and front only! Once you leave there vision they have to then try to lock on to you once again and predict what you might do next. As seen with Kakashi and Zabuza, kakashi and Kakuzu, Sasuke and Naruto VOTE, sasuke and itachi, sasuke and killer bee etc etc etc.

Byakugan senses everything accurately 360! As in no matter where you might appear they have you tracked no diff! Unless you shrink to the size of a vertebrate about nickle size btw. They also detect everything the moment it happens no diff! So with that There abilities shine bright!

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Right before any attack lands! No matter how fast you think you might be they will always beat you since it takes Zero time to omit Chakra from ones body. Itachi does not have any attack or punch that will even make them smile! His shunshin will be useless since they would know chakra to feet equals trying to blitz and with there Vision whether behind or in front they can counter itachi with out even blinking!

Then we have the ability to see everything in a Freeze frame:

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With this effect and ability they see time as if it has stopped (that is how fast there eyes are working if you don't understand), Then having the ability to alter anything they please with pure chakra alone that is instant! Itachi will not only have all his attacks blocked no diff, he want be able to predict it either. A full body Blow will kill him or badly injure if to close as well.

Then you bring up Lee in gates as if Itachi has that Taijutsu Speed (he doesn't, shunshin isn't taijutsu if you didn't know). And Nor can Itachi hit even close to 1/16 the power lee possessed nor spam the speed lee spammed appearing almost instantly in multiple locations. And I guess lets ignore the fact Neji was keeping up and seeing everything lee was doing, and was surprised Lee had that ability; he wasn't scared or "shitting bricks". It was more so Surprised Lee had such a secret. Not once did he comment on "Too fast" or "too powerful" or "I cannot see anything" etc etc. SO please leave that alone unless you have words on kishi/manga stating this? Add Neji always held back as well since they were friends and teammates! Why would they fight to kill again???? Mute point.

Byakugan isnt rinnegan nor sharingan. Nor do any of them users (bar Nagato ST, or using Susanoo) have the ability to defend themselves instantly! Unless you can show an sharingan user No susanoo having a better def then Omitting Chakra instantly from there body??? Can either eyes do this:

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Hit 64 times and move there body in conjunction in mere seconds? There eyes and body is adapt to fast movement it isn't even funny. To preform 64 Divinity you have to have the eyes to be able to react instantly since each hit is precise and pinpoint with perfect detail one after another and would need the body to move your arms and torso with your arms and hands and feet moving in such a high speed to the point you see literally nothing but one motion hitting them multiple times! Itachi has never shown anything on that level of speed, using a few handseals fast is childsplay, Throwing kunais that you can see and see his arm moving is also childsplay. When 64 divinity is in play you see nothing but after hits after he has counted (4, 8, 16, 32, 64). Only Gai has shown anything close to this ability, and he needed 6 gates to achieve it.

Please stop using the outdated Databook! please! Unless you are saying Kurenai is equal to itachi in genjutsu? Or Gai and kisame is equal to Tsunade in strength? etc etc I can keep going on how flawed that out dated thing is it isnt even funny! The fact that you are relying on it speaks volumes...

And just in case you still do not get it. It takes no time to omit chakra from there body, they do not have to move a muscle! That is why you cannot compare them to the other eyes since they have to move to react or block any attack that might happen. Learn the difference please! And detect and sense everything accurately and see anything chakra related before it happens>Body prediction. Since sharinagn has to read and predict is the reason they cannot react to speed demons with out having o use Susanoo (Sasuke vs Aye prime example). Hyuga's have chakra as there def and means to alter attacks and counter attack. Show a 3 tomoe user using chakra from there entire body then we can compare the eyes... I'll wait.. His basic Ninjutsu usless, taijutsu useless, speed useless, genjutsu useless. What is next itachi is god as usual?

All you're saying is completely irrelevant because Owarji's point still holds.
Speed > Rotation. Manga fact.
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Neji couldn't block or evade something slower than what

Itachi won't even bat an eye to kill this guy.
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You forgot to factor in that none of those people had pre-cog. Pre-cog cancels precog so You no longer have the advantage of precog to pad your lack of speed - which was the case in those fights. Now it's speed vs speed because when you precog, they precog. + by manga feats, sharingan precog's > Byakugan meaning itachi's faster + has better perception. Hiashi has no chance to react, once he tries, itachi adjusts.


All you're saying is completely irrelevant because Owarji's point still holds.
Speed > Rotation. Manga fact.
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Neji couldn't block or evade something slower than what

Itachi won't even bat an eye to kill this guy.
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You literally proved nothing nothing at all. Like literally I wasted my time reading your post. smh Plus the fact he did block naruto made your post Mute. When you can counter everything and post manga facts or something that backs what you claim get back at me. Plus the fact Hiashi is leagues above part 1 genin neji. lmmfao His rotation neg diffed 20 joinin and its range and speed is wayyyy beyond genin neji's. lmao
 
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