SM Minato and DSM Kabuto.

[AlphaScythian]

SM Minato (alive) VS DSM Kabuto.

1)No FTG, No Edos.

2) FTG, No Edos.

SM vs SM i think its fun comparison.
So please your thoughts on 2 scenarios.

My money are on kabuto on both scenarios ​

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

I'd say Kabuto, with difficulty. I don't see SM giving him too much of a better chance than just regular vanilla Minato.

 

[omarsen]

Kabuto takes this easily

 

[HiddenSound]

Imo, Kabuto wins high difficulty in scenario 2. I made a thread about it a while ago.
In scenario 1, we don't really know Minato's limits with SM, so can't say.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I'd say Kabuto, with difficulty. I don't see SM giving him too much of a better chance than just regular vanilla Minato.

Pretty much, kabuto has to many abilities and white rage is OP for close range fighter like minato, plus suigetsu's ability on top

Kabuto takes this easily

True

Imo, Kabuto wins high difficulty in scenario 2. I made a thread about it a while ago.
In scenario 1, we don't really know Minato's limits with SM, so can't say.

I dont see why high, even with FTG he cant do much dmg to oro/karin/suigetsu mix

 

[HiddenSound]

Thought, if Kabuto doesn't have the reflexes to avoid Minato when he's using FTG, which is entirely debatable

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Then couldn't he just avoid death by decapitation by keeping his body in a liquid state? He can obviously mold and melt his body around, I doubt that simple beheading would kill someone so durable and resilient.
So Kunais should be out. Then he has Rasengan, which is useless on someone like DSM Kabuto. Add in the paralyzing effects of Hakugeki and Mugen Onsa, and Kabuto can kill him.
If I'm right, I think it'd be low-mid dif for DSM Kabuto.

 

[itachi izanami]

this question is like 1+1

Ofcourse it's fvcking Kabuto can easily beat Ass-pull mode minato

 

[KidGamer65]

Kabuto pretty much stomps him in the first scenario and takes the second mid diff as usual. Sage Mode doesn't add anything that would let him deal with anymore of Kabuto's arsenal than he could while alive, so the difficulty isn't decreasing either.

 

[ShiroT]

i cant see minato winning without ftg and with it kabuto cant hit him. If he uses his sage attack he can simply teleport since he doesnt need to move for that just use chakra idk i'd call it even unless minato has a seal for him he probably would lose

 

[AlphaScythian]

Kabuto takes this easily

this question is like 1+1

Ofcourse it's fvcking Kabuto can easily beat Ass-pull mode minato

Kabuto pretty much stomps him in the first scenario and takes the second mid diff as usual. Sage Mode doesn't add anything that would let him deal with anymore of Kabuto's arsenal than he could while alive, so the difficulty isn't decreasing either.

Wise words my friends

i cant see minato winning without ftg and with it kabuto cant hit him. If he uses his sage attack he can simply teleport since he doesnt need to move for that just use chakra idk i'd call it even unless minato has a seal for him he probably would lose

Kabuto still has genjutsu, both sound and even few others, spider webs can limit minato's escape roots, placing it at kunais should be enough, bones all over is bad environment for reckless FTG too.

 

[ShiroT]

and all you guys saying he could liquidfy why didnt he do that when itachi cut part of his ear off? which means minato can hit him

 

[HiddenSound]

and all you guys saying he could liquidfy why didnt he do that when itachi cut part of his ear off? which means minato can hit him

It was a horn.
And I dunno, I'm not him. I just listed a possibility of what Kabuto could do.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

with FTG Minato wins mid diff.
without FTG Minato wins high diff.

and there is always a draw with minato's RDS in both case.

Minato easily outclass Kabuto in speed and reflexes despite both being in SM.

Ma and Pa for sound Genjutsu , just like Kabuto has sound 4 for his own sound genjutsu. but Ma and pa being a seprate entity hence they will help to release Minato from genjutsu but nobody is there for Kabuto.

suijutsu liquidifcation tech helps kabuto but kabuto must solidify to attack and Minato can exploit this weakness just like in case of obito vs Minato.

Beheading kabuto will definately kill kabuto , if otherwise stated in manga. Minato's kunai sliced throgh thick tentacle of hachibi like hot knife in butter.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

and all you guys saying he could liquidfy why didnt he do that when itachi cut part of his ear off? which means minato can hit him

Its because kabuto need to solidify himself to attack others. just like Obito's kamui fighting style. If Itachi had attacked kabuto when he was in liquid state then the attack would had just slipped through.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

Kabuto pretty much stomps him in the first scenario and takes the second mid diff as usual. Sage Mode doesn't add anything that would let him deal with anymore of Kabuto's arsenal than he could while alive, so the difficulty isn't decreasing either.

if a sword can kill madara, izuna and possibly sasuke then I see no other reason why kabuto can't die with a sword / kunai slash.
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Rashingan can disintegrate kabuto's body in cellular level so no matter if he is in liquid or solid state, it would still hurt him.

 

[Lucidus]

Kabuto wins in the first scenario since minato doesnt have FTG so lets move on frmo this one

second scenario

with FTG kabuto will have a little more trouble..

thanks to FTG minato will be able to avoid kabuto's techs more easily and anything that kabuto throws at minato can be redirected thanks for FTG however this wont be enough to beat Kabuto..

Sage mode gives minato a nice power up but as others have said thanks to kabuto's liquifiing ability it doesnt help against him.. however the increased durability will be of help atleast here and use of nature energy and Kabuto will need to solidify again to attack Minato, Minato can exploit this, especially if he manages to place a seal on Kabuto.. we have seen Minato's reactions are one of the fastest.. if not the fastest in the manga so i can see Minato being able to exploit this weakness

this is more speculation on my part but.. since minato has sage mode.. he would of had to have trained for it since you need to train to be able to control and learn how to feel nature energy.. now the final part of the training is fusing with ma and pa.. so i would assume minato has access to them.. now if he does then frog sound genjutsu could be the deciding factor for minato to win..

but again as i said this is merely speculation and we cant really tell..

il just put it this way.. without frog song Kabuto would win high diff
If minato did have access to frog song then this could be the factor that allows minato to beat Kabuto.. again it would be High diff

its situations like these where i wish kishi elabourated more on Minato's sealing capabilities because this is where a lot of his power could come from and could have been a nice alternative than giving him sage mode but whatever

conclusion:

Scenario 1 - Kabuto
Scenario 2 - Kabuto - without frog song - high diff - this match could go either way still
- with Frog song it could go either way still but i would see Minato winning high dif

 

[ShiroT]

Its because kabuto need to solidify himself to attack others. just like Obito's kamui fighting style. If Itachi had attacked kabuto when he was in liquid state then the attack would had just slipped through.

therefor he would need to solidfy to attack a faster opponent and he could easily get hit but he has that unlimited heal

 

[ajpn920]

Manga says Minato: Haters says otherwise!Zzz

 

[AlphaScythian]

and there is always a draw with minato's RDS in both case.

No draws allowed

Minato easily outclass Kabuto in speed and reflexes despite both being in SM.

Debatable

Ma and Pa for sound Genjutsu , just like Kabuto has sound 4 for his own sound genjutsu. but Ma and pa being a seprate entity hence they will help to release Minato from genjutsu but nobody is there for Kabuto.

Ma n PA didnt couldnt even pull the rod from j.man on their own until he *****ed. They arent noticing genjutsu as rods give similar effects.

Kabuto can negate sound by liquidizing his body as with white rage.

suijutsu liquidifcation tech helps kabuto but kabuto must solidify to attack and Minato can exploit this weakness just like in case of obito vs Minato.

Hardly. Kabuto has good reflexes uchiha bros barely hit him. Too naive.

Beheading kabuto will definately kill kabuto , if otherwise stated in manga. Minato's kunai sliced throgh thick tentacle of hachibi like hot knife in butter.

And orochimaru was chopped to pieces, suigetsu too.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Is this in the cave? Nonetheless....I'm leaning more towards Kabuto both times. In open space....I can't find a clear conclusion in my mind. _@: