Restrictions: none, Kabuto is allowed all of his Edos he used from the war excluding filler edos (weather boy, sound 4). Itachi cannot use KA because Shisui's eye is in Naruto.
Knowledge: Kabuto has full knowledge on the 1st. Hashirama has knowledge on Edo tensei.
Verdict:
DSM Kabuto Low-mid difficulty. He'll probably want to test out Edo tensei Madara against him. The rest of his edos are too much for Hashirama to handle.
Scenario 2: Hashirama has Tobirama and Hiruzen.
Scenario 3: Edo Itachi gets KA and breaks edo tensei.
the only edo tensei that could ever possibly be a factor in this match is madara. every other edo here and kabuto is useless.
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the same alliance that were sealing kabutos edo tensei didnt possibly think that they could be a factor in helping hashirama take down madara and this is thousands of shinobi.
every edo tensei that kabuto has and kabuto himself gets flicked away simply by the footsteps of PS and the mokujin, similar to the juubi clones.
this battle comes down to hashirama vs madara.
the end result of that fight is this:
the only edo tensei that could ever possibly be a factor in this match is madara. every other edo here and kabuto is useless.
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the same alliance that were sealing kabutos edo tensei didnt possibly think that they could be a factor in helping hashirama take down madara and this is thousands of shinobi.
every edo tensei that kabuto has and kabuto himself gets flicked away simply by the footsteps of PS and the mokujin, similar to the juubi clones.
this battle comes down to hashirama vs madara.
the end result of that fight is this:
Edo Madara stabbed rods in Hashi's back.. Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama.
He let himself pretend to almost get sealed because he saw his chance with black zetsu to let him get revived. Notice how Madara grins while looking over at Obito right before Sai's sealing comes in?
Also Kabuto isn't useless here. The ninja alliance = people are alive, the edos are all dead men that can regenerate. Hash has never shown seals.
madara is stronger because he managed to hit hashirama? nonsense. i guess you also ignored the fact that madara was bound by 2 mokuryu, unable to move and sapped of his chakra.
He let himself pretend to almost get sealed because he saw his chance with black zetsu to let him get revived. Notice how Madara grins while looking over at Obito right before Sai's sealing comes in?
there is absolutely no correlation in the bold.
he was 100% guaranteed to be revived and have his power restored, so he had no reason to worry regardless if he lost to hashirama or was about to be sealed.
Also Kabuto isn't useless here. The ninja alliance = people are alive, the edos are all dead men that can regenerate. Hash has never shown seals.
so, when hashirama pinned madara under myoujinmon, what do you think that was? he has a way to immobilize all of kabutos edo tensei.
the fact that edo tensei can regenerate is irrelevant. they will not factor into the fight in any way whatsoever. they cannot fight on the scale of PS and the mokujin.
madara is stronger because he managed to hit hashirama? nonsense. i guess you also ignored the fact that madara was bound by 2 mokuryu, unable to move and sapped of his chakra.
there is absolutely no correlation in the bold.
he was 100% guaranteed to be revived and have his power restored, so he had no reason to worry regardless if he lost to hashirama or was about to be sealed.
so, when hashirama pinned madara under myoujinmon, what do you think that was? he has a way to immobilize all of kabutos edo tensei.
the fact that edo tensei can regenerate is irrelevant. they will not factor into the fight in any way whatsoever. they cannot fight on the scale of PS and the mokujin.
Madara can use all of Hashi's techs. He's already used wood dragon against BM Naruto. Yet he didn't when fighting edo Hashirama because he screwed around stalling for time. I'm not saying Edo Madara stomps him, but he definitely held back not using Hashirama's techniques against him. Not to mention that although a lot of their fight was skipped by the manga, the only thing we saw was Madara trying to stab Hashi with rods and using PS against him (he even succeeded with the rods). Also where was the guaranteed revival? If Juubito didn't lose then Obito would've been "to hell with Madara i'm starting infinite tsukuyomi". Madara could have binded his movements with the rods, but he waited to be revived (because he saw his chance) and countered then. Also because he couldn't take Hashi's sage chakra while in edo tensei.
You're also claiming that Hashirama can tank Madara's PS + 1000s of people with unlimited stamina (which includes Deidara who could ruin nations and 1 shotted the 3 tails, and Nagato who has loads of summonings and chibaku tensei,) come on now mate.
How can Hashirama stop the movements of 1000s of men as well with his myojomin w/e that technique with the gates is, I should add while fighting edo madara on top of it.
P.S. thanks for making an argument for hashirama so this thread could go somewhere ^^
are you saying this in a general sense? madara hasnt used all of hashiramas techniques. he has used a fragment of his base arsenal.
He's already used wood dragon against BM Naruto. Yet he didn't when fighting edo Hashirama because he screwed around stalling for time. I'm not saying Edo Madara stomps him, but he definitely held back not using Hashirama's techniques against him.
madara not using mokuton doesnt mean he held back. it just means that he didnt use mokuton. the mokuton and rinnegan make up the fluff of madaras arsenal.
his ems is his full power.
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Not to mention that although a lot of their fight was skipped by the manga, the only thing we saw was Madara trying to stab Hashi with rods and using PS against him (he even succeeded with the rods).
i already know that madara put rods in hashiramas back, but you are acting like hashirama didnt have the upper hand in that exchange since he bound madara with 2 wood dragons and sapped his chakra.
Also where was the guaranteed revival? If Juubito didn't lose then Obito would've been "to hell with Madara i'm starting infinite tsukuyomi".
the moment he saw obito in his weakened state, his revival was guaranteed, hence madaras smile while he was pinned down.
Madara could have binded his movements with the rods, but he waited to be revived (because he saw his chance) and countered then. Also because he couldn't take Hashi's sage chakra while in edo tensei.
madara didnt bind hashirama at that time, because he couldnt. madara ended up getting bound himself in the exchange, then he had his chakra sapped from him as stated.
the bold is wrong. edo madara outright stated that he wanted to take hashiramas sage chakra and take down obito.
You're also claiming that Hashirama can tank Madara's PS + 1000s of people with unlimited stamina (which includes Deidara who could ruin nations and 1 shotted the 3 tails, and Nagato who has loads of summonings and chibaku tensei,) come on now mate.
do you even realize the difference in scale between hashirama, madara and the rest of kabutos edo tensei? the same force that took down kabutos army said that they couldnt be a factor in hashirama and madaras fight. shinsuusenju wasnt even taken into account and the scale of that is multiple times greater than PS and the mokujin.
How can Hashirama stop the movements of 1000s of men as well with his myojomin w/e that technique with the gates is, I should add while fighting edo madara on top of it.
when hashirama and madara activate the mokujin and PS respectively, kabutos edo tensei will have no choice but to hopelessly watch the fight from afar as they wont be able to do anything to sway the outcome. thats how far above them hashirama and madara are.
after hashirama defeats madara, kabutos edo tensei all get pinned down by myoujinmon.
