Hiashi Hyuuga vs 3T Itachi Uchiha

[VongolaX]

Why did you restrict finger genjutsu? It is easily countered, as well as Crow genjutsu. Only thing that needs to be restricted is MS and weapons.

There you go with the assumptions again.

Do you have a scan of him, easily breaking a genjustu of that level?

Or any for that matter?

 

[adeshina365]

Why is Itachi being compared to a Hyuuga fodder? -_-

Itachi wins.

 

[~Sky~]

Don't really see how Hiashi can keep up with Itachi's Shunshin, but meh.

 

[Haizaki]

Itachi stomps low-diff.

Fanboy alert..how does 3T itachi win this..say anything you think and I'll counter right now

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

People are failing to consider Itachi's body flicker speed here. Yes byakugan will allow him to see Itachi, but that doesn't matter does it?

There is a more than just a chance for Itachi considering his kunai skills. People are greatly underestimating this prodigy.

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We already know the weaknesses of they heavenly rotation. It's speed. It doesnt matter if they see the attack coming with they overly large radius of vision. If they can't REACT to it fast enough. they're dead

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Now the sharingan and the Byakugan have this weakness in common

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As I already showed, both Neji and hinato were unable to react fast enough to activate their rotation when the juubi let out its needles


To summarise. Byakugan has two weaknesses, Speed and Its BlindSpot. Two weaknesses Itachi is potentially a master of exploting.
Meaning he can either stay from afar and barrage Hiashi with thousdands of kunai (similar to his throwout with sasuke), and send a few aiming at the blindspot of rinnegan, if and when he notices it , which he will.
Or he can approach this physically and get close.

Before people get their panties in a bunch. According to the databook, Hiashi's speed is only a mere 4. putting him below ALOT, of ninjas, even Neji.


And to end it, Byakugan simply will allow Hiashi to see in a nice wide range. Sharingan has its unique ability of precognition in battle.

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Unfortunately, Itachi was able to take out 3 mature 3 tomoe Police force Sharingan users all before they could even react with his speed. There would be nothing hiashi could do at that point.

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Damn you just shut everybody up.



Ot: Itachi wins even with restrictions. ​

 

[Haizaki]

People are failing to consider Itachi's body flicker speed here. Yes byakugan will allow him to see Itachi, but that doesn't matter does it?

There is a more than just a chance for Itachi considering his kunai skills. People are greatly underestimating this prodigy.

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We already know the weaknesses of they heavenly rotation. It's speed. It doesnt matter if they see the attack coming with they overly large radius of vision. If they can't REACT to it fast enough. they're dead

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Now the sharingan and the Byakugan have this weakness in common

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As I already showed, both Neji and hinato were unable to react fast enough to activate their rotation when the juubi let out its needles


To summarise. Byakugan has two weaknesses, Speed and Its BlindSpot. Two weaknesses Itachi is potentially a master of exploting.
Meaning he can either stay from afar and barrage Hiashi with thousdands of kunai (similar to his throwout with sasuke), and send a few aiming at the blindspot of rinnegan, if and when he notices it , which he will.
Or he can approach this physically and get close.

Before people get their panties in a bunch. According to the databook, Hiashi's speed is only a mere 4. putting him below ALOT, of ninjas, even Neji.


And to end it, Byakugan simply will allow Hiashi to see in a nice wide range. Sharingan has its unique ability of precognition in battle.

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Unfortunately, Itachi was able to take out 3 mature 3 tomoe Police force Sharingan users all before they could even react with his speed. There would be nothing hiashi could do at that point.

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Even if I believe Hiashi wins..damn I must commend your intelligence..Itachi fanboys just jump in with no reasonable debate but this is really good I must say

 

[Haizaki]

First off...itachi must get away from hiashi before he can use his shurikens which would be hard...itachi was able to successfully use his shurikens against nagato because nagato was focusing on naruto and kb..yes nagato had summons to watch out for him "while he was busy with naruto and kb"..if not he won't just stand and do nothing..he'd have gone for itachi in a 1 on 1..kidomaru a long range fighter and was able to make neji pay because back then neji's byakugan could see about 50 meters which is natural when the byakugan is activated, now neji can see 800 meters which I believe is not further than what Hiashi can see .. he saw as far off a that village was destroyed in an instant by the Ten-Tails' Tailed Beast Ball...it's true the byakugan has a bling spot but itachi would first have to analyze this because he didn't watch neji and kidomaru fight...question is would hiashi give him the time for that?..and having said that,

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that explains how hiashi can compensate for the blind spot... Hiashi was able to take out the cloud leader shinobi quickly as well

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hiashi also has his vacuum palms which as explained to kishi in the character databook to be "an extremely fast strike with the palm unleashed after pinpointing an enemy's vital spot..he also said it's a mid range attack that compensates for weakness in close combat...if itachi fights from a distance, he's shuriken would be slower because the further he is the longer it takes to get to hiashi making it easier for hiashi to dodge or react faster to them unlike a fast moving arrow.
Another choice for itachi is close combat...don't think he wants to try that
Hiashi takes this

 

[AGoodBoy]

itachi obviously wins.

ITachi's probably even better than this guy in CQC combat even with his whole hyuuga and gentle fist crap.
Itachi's faster, has better jutsu, smarter.

This guy gets solo'd med diff. Itachi riddles him with a shadow clone and shurikens. Even Genjutsu will temporarily work. Anyone who tries to deny that, I'll point them right to Sasuke uchiha who was caught under itachi's genjutsu until he later realized.

 

[Haizaki]

itachi obviously wins.

ITachi's probably even better than this guy in CQC combat even with his whole hyuuga and gentle fist crap.
Itachi's faster, has better jutsu, smarter.

This guy gets solo'd med diff. Itachi riddles him with a shadow clone and shurikens. Even Genjutsu will temporarily work. Anyone who tries to deny that, I'll point them right to Sasuke uchiha who was caught under itachi's genjutsu until he later realized.

First bold is just a joke and shouldn't be replied
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Ao's one eyed byakugan is nothing compared to hiashi's byakugan on both eyes but yet..

 

[AGoodBoy]

First bold is just a joke and shouldn't be replied
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Ao's one eyed byakugan is nothing compared to hiashi's byakugan on both eyes but yet..

Yea, I'm sure you find it a joke. Really, the only dangerous part of gentle fist is the chakra hits. but, with sharingan precog, itachi can literally see how the guy's arm moves and react to it before they reach their intended position. Seeing as itachi's faster than him(non debateable), and has easily kept up and parried the unpredictability of bee's 7 sword dance(with his bare fists), I'm not seeing what feat hiashi has that says itachi can't par, if not beat, him in taijutsu CQC combat. At the end of the day, it's hiashi trying to block chakra points while itachi has a Speed and precog advantage.


So, Ao saw through an illusion placed on someone else and that's supposed to prove what? Thanks for neglecting my point that a dojutsu user was already caught in a genjutsu by itachi.

 

[Haizaki]

Yea, I'm sure you find it a joke. Really, the only dangerous part of gentle fist is the chakra hits. but, with sharingan precog, itachi can literally see how the guy's arm moves and react to it before they reach their intended position. Seeing as itachi's faster than him(non debateable), and has easily kept up and parried the unpredictability of bee's 7 sword dance(with his bare fists), I'm not seeing what feat hiashi has that says itachi can't par, if not beat, him in taijutsu CQC combat. At the end of the day, it's hiashi trying to block chakra points while itachi has a Speed and precog advantage.

So, Ao saw through an illusion placed on someone else and that's supposed to prove what? Thanks for neglecting my point that a dojutsu user was already caught in a genjutsu by itachi.

Obviously, itachi is faster but that doesn't mean hiashi can't react to him...kcm naruto when they he was younger was faster than neji but he could still react to him..you're failing to recognize that a single strike from hiashi could be the end for itachi..in kishi's datebook itachi's taijustu is 4.5 while hisashi has a 5 in taijustu.

As for the genjutsu part, hiashi can tell when itachi is about to use genjustu by looking at itachi's chakra and it's flow

 

[AGoodBoy]

Never said he couldn't react to itachi. I said i don't see why itachi can't react to him. Precog + speed + feats i don't see why he can't parry.

That makes no sense. No one else could do that.

 

[Touken]

Never said he couldn't react to itachi. I said i don't see why itachi can't react to him. Precog + speed + feats i don't see why he can't parry.

That makes no sense. No one else could do that.

Hiashi stomps Itachi in a CQC fight. Sasuke's precognition allowed him to track Juubito but could he react to his combat speed? No. Same thing happens in a CQC fight between Hiashi and Itachi. He isn't reacting to someone who can land as many as 64 hits in the space of a few seconds.

 

[~Sky~]

Hiashi stomps Itachi in a CQC fight. Sasuke's precognition allowed him to track Juubito but could he react to his combat speed? No. Same thing happens in a CQC fight between Hiashi and Itachi. He isn't reacting to someone who can land as many as 64 hits in the space of a few seconds.

That's a terrible comparison, honestly.

Juubito to Sasuke =/= Hiashi to Itachi. Not in the slightest.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

First off...itachi must get away from hiashi before he can use his shurikens which would be hard...itachi was able to successfully use his shurikens against nagato because nagato was focusing on naruto and kb..yes nagato had summons to watch out for him "while he was busy with naruto and kb"..if not he won't just stand and do nothing..he'd have gone for itachi in a 1 on 1..kidomaru a long range fighter and was able to make neji pay because back then neji's byakugan could see about 50 meters which is natural when the byakugan is activated, now neji can see 800 meters which I believe is not further than what Hiashi can see .. he saw as far off a that village was destroyed in an instant by the Ten-Tails' Tailed Beast Ball...it's true the byakugan has a bling spot but itachi would first have to analyze this because he didn't watch neji and kidomaru fight...question is would hiashi give him the time for that?..and having said that,

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that explains how hiashi can compensate for the blind spot... Hiashi was able to take out the cloud leader shinobi quickly as well

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hiashi also has his vacuum palms which as explained to kishi in the character databook to be "an extremely fast strike with the palm unleashed after pinpointing an enemy's vital spot..he also said it's a mid range attack that compensates for weakness in close combat...if itachi fights from a distance, he's shuriken would be slower because the further he is the longer it takes to get to hiashi making it easier for hiashi to dodge or react faster to them unlike a fast moving arrow.
Another choice for itachi is close combat...don't think he wants to try that
Hiashi takes this

Your statement is implying he has no knowledge on the Hyuga, or that Itachi's analytical skills ain't on that level not to realize the Bykugan doesn't have a blind spot. Itachi would be easily able to create space him and Hiashi due to his superior speed and pre cog would allow him to counter Hiashi from a distance.


As for you points for the blind spot are wrong him being able to take out fodder doesn't compensate for his blind spot he hasn't show a counter to his blind spots and Itachi's shuriken would be able to hit Hiashi if aimed correctly we've seen how fatal this has been.


Aagain Itachi is no idiot and he couldn't want to go straight in to CQC his air palm would be ineffective due to pre cog would allow him to see the palm thrust movement before it even happens. At range Hiashi is a sitting duck for Itachi. As for the shuriken argument that won't matter if they come at a distance he wouldn't be able to see them if you hit the blind spot. Due to the new no restrictions ama easily takes out Hiashi. ​

 

[adeshina365]

Hyuuga wank is probably worst than Minato wank. At least with the latter the character has plot relevance.

 

[Touken]

That's a terrible comparison, honestly.

Juubito to Sasuke =/= Hiashi to Itachi. Not in the slightest.

Keyword being there was combat speed.

 

[~Sky~]

Keyword being there was combat speed.

Still a horrible comparison. Juubito was leagues faster than Sasuke. There is no such difference in speed between Hiashi and Itachi.

Still don't know who wins this fight, I'm just pointing this out.

 

[Touken]

Still a horrible comparison. Juubito was leagues faster than Sasuke. There is no such difference in speed between Hiashi and Itachi.

Still don't know who wins this fight, I'm just pointing this out.

And Hiashi's combat speed is leagues faster than Itachi's. Your point?

 

[~Sky~]

And Hiashi's combat speed is leagues faster than Itachi's. Your point?

No it's not. (._.) Itachi's has moved faster than the Sharingan can discern on multiple occasions man. Hiashi has no such feats.