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Re: Pretty sad how much hate Minato is recieving....
i agree. i saw many butthurt Minato haters this day
Smh Minato.
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Re: Pretty sad how much hate Minato is recieving....
Sasuke was defeated by Madara using an advanced Rinnegan technique even Nagato didn't know. He didn't just get stabbed with his sword out of nowhere.
Re: Pretty sad how much hate Minato is recieving....
Don't mind her - she's always short of a few hundred marbles that aid an individual in intellectual comprehension. The fact that Sasuke is 'the only' ninja to have pushed Madara back and stabbed him, says a lot about his prowess as a Ninja. Madara actually offered him to side with him. Can't say the same for Minato - who it seems, needs a hand - Pun Intended.
edgarmagician
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Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story
The only hole in this is that at this point Naruto didn't know that Minato was his dad and for some reason nobody wanted to tell him. That might have included the toads
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adeshina365
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Sometimes I feel like you, I sometimes feel like these characters actually exist and have their own minds but when it comes down to it, Kishi wrote the script. Plot no jutsu. I knew he would lose his other arm just on principle.
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So why was Minato's sage mode impossible? Let me count the ways.
Minato observed it and learned from Naruto.: Are you forgetting Madara actually needs Hashirama on his chest to achieve this feat? If was as simple as observation don't you think the greatest Sharingan user would have done this?
He was linked to Naruto's chakra and Naruto shared that chakra.: You mean the chakra that recently dissipated for everyone? If Naruto was sharing Nature chakra there would be a lot of stone toads on the battlefield
The Kyubi wouldn't allow Minato to use it before.: The Kyuubi can't stop you from using it if you want to, but can stop himself from mixing with it. He may not want to mix but this makes no sense since Kurama already agreed to it with Naruto. The Kyuubi knows what is at stake and has done it before, even when on the worst of terms with the Jin (see pain arc). The Kyuubi may hate sharing but he hates other things more.
He learned it from Mount Myobokuzan: Someone should tell Pa. Minato himself was amazed that Naruto had learned Jiraiya's Senjutsu. He didn't say so my son has learned senjutsu also. You must train at the mountain the same way that you must train at Ryuchidou and Shikkotsurin if you wish to gain their respective sage modes.
Now all that being said it is intentional. Not every mystery wears a mask or doesn't wear shoes.
Minato observed it and learned from Naruto.: Are you forgetting Madara actually needs Hashirama on his chest to achieve this feat? If was as simple as observation don't you think the greatest Sharingan user would have done this?
He was linked to Naruto's chakra and Naruto shared that chakra.: You mean the chakra that recently dissipated for everyone? If Naruto was sharing Nature chakra there would be a lot of stone toads on the battlefield
The Kyubi wouldn't allow Minato to use it before.: The Kyuubi can't stop you from using it if you want to, but can stop himself from mixing with it. He may not want to mix but this makes no sense since Kurama already agreed to it with Naruto. The Kyuubi knows what is at stake and has done it before, even when on the worst of terms with the Jin (see pain arc). The Kyuubi may hate sharing but he hates other things more.
He learned it from Mount Myobokuzan: Someone should tell Pa. Minato himself was amazed that Naruto had learned Jiraiya's Senjutsu. He didn't say so my son has learned senjutsu also. You must train at the mountain the same way that you must train at Ryuchidou and Shikkotsurin if you wish to gain their respective sage modes.
Now all that being said it is intentional. Not every mystery wears a mask or doesn't wear shoes.
edgarmagician
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Dude tajutsu from the JJ. Obviously JJ Madara's taijutsu is a whole lot faster. Even Naruto was having a hard time with Obito when he was the Jubi Jin.
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Nothing embarrassing getting beat by the Juubi's Jinchuriki, especially when everyone else got owned by a blind/Juubiless Madara. This is only getting so much commotion because this site is filled with Uchiha fappers, so they have to poke their fun towards Minato. The Minato fans are happy their favourite got a major power boost though, don't think they'll mind. I mean, I'm pretty sure everyone laughed when he got roundhouse kicked and his decapitated arm just whacked Kakashi like that.
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The Toads (specifically Pa) didn't teach Minato SM
Pa didn't teach Minato SM.
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Pa didn't teach Minato SM.
Re: Lmao at all these Minato haters
How is he a failure of a father, he love his son and thinks nothing but the best of Naruto where as Sasuke's dad ignored Sasuke in favor for Itachi. Minato sacrificed his life not only to give Naruto yang Kurama (he had faith Naruto can bare it and master it's power) but was also thinking of the wellness of his village as the Hokage and didn't want Kurama to later be revived without a host as well as not wanting to hurt the balance of power which was created by Hashirama as he gave other Bijuus away.
In the war Kishi made all of the Hokages act as nothing more than supporters
How was it asspull when it was foreshadowed in Pein arc?
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How would Pa toad know Minato as well as he knew Jiraiya? Obviously he had to have met him to even see Minato in Naruto and then compare him to him. Minato was Jiraiya's student since he was a genin and he favored Minato, same reasons why I said he had to of had SM back when Pein arc happened.Well Kishi only have the edo's act as supporters, he's not going to have them fight and do major damage or finishing blows like that. Have you seen Tobirama use Edo tensei? Why not? It's a summoning jutsus and Hanzo, Hiruzen and Hashirama all summoned things so why not Tobirama? Why doesn't Hashirama used water or earth jutsus that make up wood jutsu? Why didn't Tobirama use that soul thing he wanted to use on Sasuke on Naruto who went down first? Why don't Tobirama use more water jutsus? Where was Hiruzen most of Juubito's fight? See what I mean? I can go on and on about that Edo Hokages but at the end of the day, they all acted as mere supporters for Naruto and Sasuke.
Not an asspull if it was foreshadowed in Pein arc
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. How would Pa toad, a toad Sage who didn't even show himself to Naruto until he wanted to train Naruto even though Naruto was Jiraiya's student for three years at the very least. Minato was with Jiraiya since he was a genin and was Jiraiya's favorite student.How is he a failure of a father, he love his son and thinks nothing but the best of Naruto where as Sasuke's dad ignored Sasuke in favor for Itachi. Minato sacrificed his life not only to give Naruto yang Kurama (he had faith Naruto can bare it and master it's power) but was also thinking of the wellness of his village as the Hokage and didn't want Kurama to later be revived without a host as well as not wanting to hurt the balance of power which was created by Hashirama as he gave other Bijuus away.
In the war Kishi made all of the Hokages act as nothing more than supporters
Re: The Toads (specifically Pa) didn't teach Minato SM
He could have, You have to remember that at the time naruto never met his dad and didn't know the fourth has his father. So pa mentioning minato wouldn't have had relavence to naruto.
He could have, You have to remember that at the time naruto never met his dad and didn't know the fourth has his father. So pa mentioning minato wouldn't have had relavence to naruto.
edgarmagician
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You might want to consider the possibility that the toad only mentioned Jiraya because he didn't, like everyone else, wanted to tell Naruto about Minato. We all know that Minato had a contract with the toads, so Minato's SM was never out of the question except to Minato haters.
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Re: The Toads (specifically Pa) didn't teach Minato SM
OP is right. Minato shouldn't have Sage Mode...He shouldn't have KCM IMO either.
ON the contrary. It has a huge relavence to Naruto. Naruto Trained hard on Rasengan after Jiraiya mentioned it was a jutsu created by the 4th Hokage. Jiraiya didn't throw out Minato's name but he did mention it to Naruto which fueled his determination to master it. The same should have gone with Sage Mode.
He did. But Frog Sage Mode isn't a requirement for being the Child of Prophecy. As the scan show's above Pa only mentioned Jiraiya. He didn't need to throw out Minato's name, but you would think he would at least mention that the Yondinme trained here as well.
OP is right. Minato shouldn't have Sage Mode...He shouldn't have KCM IMO either.
ON the contrary. It has a huge relavence to Naruto. Naruto Trained hard on Rasengan after Jiraiya mentioned it was a jutsu created by the 4th Hokage. Jiraiya didn't throw out Minato's name but he did mention it to Naruto which fueled his determination to master it. The same should have gone with Sage Mode.
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N9NETAILSSAGENARUTO
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Re: The Toads (specifically Pa) didn't teach Minato SM
just because he said that doesnt mean pa didnt teach him. in the narutoverse people tend to not tell all the details at once.
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Minato knew how to use Senjutsu, but its painfully obvious that b/c of him becoming the Hokage he did not have a chance to truly maximize his potential. I'm sure his SM strength is comparable to Naruto when he 1st started going Sage Mode for a few minutes.
But Minato could summon the Frogs. And he obviously knew Senjutsu when he saw it. Even Kuruma told Minato to sense better, and he was not in KM when doing this. This added sensing ability is from SM.
But Minato could summon the Frogs. And he obviously knew Senjutsu when he saw it. Even Kuruma told Minato to sense better, and he was not in KM when doing this. This added sensing ability is from SM.