Juubi: current madara is weak against a simple genjutsu and the truth about Juubi

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let me start by clarifying the state of the juubi. SO6P seperated the juubi into 9 parts before he died. we know that when when obito got the tails/chakra the beasts took the form of the juubi however i believe even in that form, the beast minds/spirits are still separate. that is why when Obito lost them, they automatically returned to their separate forms.

What the S06P did was permanent, he redefined the Juubi in a way that the only time a person can use the Juubi's real powers is that he must be accepted by all 9 tails.

What madara is doing right now is stealing their powers, they are not voluntarily giving madara their power. we all saw how great the power level increases when your tamed beast gives you power with naruto and Kurama.

so what is this all about? (this is just an extra)

we all know that order to escape genjustsu, you need to stop using your chakra or if you have your beast, they can help you like killer b and hachibi.(where is he by the way? could he be the mystery man? nope! will he save naruto?Mmmmm...)

anyway... Madara is not in a state where he can stop using his chakra even for a second plus the beast would not help - he could be greatly injured.

Anyway the real point is that Madara is not using the juubi's full power and if he takes in the last half of the kyuubi, i think that will be disadvantageous to him... something could happen between him and the beasts.
 

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Good point I understand now that if someone like naruto becomes Jin he will be accepted
 

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Pretty great thread, havent seen one like this since i joined.
So it seems genjutsu could be a weakness, but he does have the rinnegan/ems.
Gotta wait for the manga to see how it finishes...
 

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let me start by clarifying the state of the juubi. SO6P seperated the juubi into 9 parts before he died. we know that when when obito got the tails/chakra the beasts took the form of the juubi however i believe even in that form, the beast minds/spirits are still separate. that is why when Obito lost them, they automatically returned to their separate forms.

What the S06P did was permanent, he redefined the Juubi in a way that the only time a person can use the Juubi's real powers is that he must be accepted by all 9 tails.

What madara is doing right now is stealing their powers, they are not voluntarily giving madara their power. we all saw how great the power level increases when your tamed beast gives you power with naruto and Kurama.

so what is this all about? (this is just an extra)

we all know that order to escape genjustsu, you need to stop using your chakra or if you have your beast, they can help you like killer b and hachibi.(where is he by the way? could he be the mystery man? nope! will he save naruto?Mmmmm...)

anyway... Madara is not in a state where he can stop using his chakra even for a second plus the beast would not help - he could be greatly injured.

Anyway the real point is that Madara is not using the juubi's full power and if he takes in the last half of the kyuubi, i think that will be disadvantageous to him... something could happen between him and the beasts.

I concur, but you need to consider the tenth part of the Juubi: The Gedou Mazou. With this last one, Madara could survive to the wound.
 

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Good point I understand now that if someone like naruto becomes Jin he will be accepted

Yeah i still wonder what will happen to Sasuke. maybe i can't post anything good that will happen to him because i don't like uchihas

Pretty great thread, haven't seen one like this since i joined.
So it seems genjutsu could be a weakness, but he does have the rinnegan/ems.
Gotta wait for the manga to see how it finishes...

Yes, i refuse to believe kishimoto is simple minded. i have faith he will do something that is more complex than this thread.

I concur, but you need to consider the tenth part of the Juubi: The Gedou Mazou. With this last one, Madara could survive to the wound.

true, which is what would make it fun, seing everyone under pressure
 
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