The real reason why Itachi & Kisame fled from Jiraiya

[Prestonyoko]

I really don't understand why people seem to think Jiraiya can solo Itachi & Kisame. That's idiodic to me.

Itachi never admitted he was completey inferior to Jiraiya. Do you know why Itachi & Jiraiya fled from their sence with Jiraiya?

1: Itachi, being a Genius of course. Chose the perfect decision in the most appropriate situation to withdraw & leave the village.

If he & Kisame would of stayed & fought Jiraiya do you even know what would happen? Reinforcments all around the Leaf Village would of came in Jiraiya's aid responding to the fight happening inside the village & Itachi & Kisame would end up fighting everyone in Konoha.

Itachi & Kisame cannot defeat the entire Leaf Village all at once.

Wouldn't be surprisded although considering he solo-ed the Leaf Village's most powerful clan all by himself when he was like 16...

Only a fool would stay & fight on enemy territory.

2: Itachi & Kisame were only responding to the hype that he has heard about Jiraiya considering Jiraiya is a famous ninja. Sannin after all.

But that doesn't mean sh-t seeing how he solo-ed the strongest Sannin in Part 1 with one technique... again WHILE he was like 16!


& to even compare Itachi Uchiha to Jiraiya is just mere disrespect to his reputation.

Jiraiya almost died trying to stop 4 Tailed Naruto!! While on the other hand a sick, eroding body Orochimaru easily fended him off.

Orochimaru even stated he would of finished Naruto if it werent for his body reaching is his limit. (Body rejecting him)

& again who solo-ed Orochimaru in part 1? How does that work..?

Jiraiya can't even defeat Itachi point blank. Throwing in Kisame as well would be an absolute overkill.

Sh-t back in Part 1 Itachi was using Amatersu just to clear a wall! That says something about his stamina back then.


I didn't excatly read the Manga Page before making this thread so hopefully theirs no screw ups

I just used what I remembered back then from watching it as a kid.. lol

Just had to make this point clear.

 

[Vegeto30294]

Are we really going back to this?

Sh-t back in Part 1 Itachi was using Amatersu just to clear a wall! That says something about his stamina back then.

Two Tsukiyomis & One Amaterasu = 1 Tired out Part I Itachi

One Tsukiyomi /w backlash + 1 drawn out Amaterasu + 1 drawn out Susano'o = 1 Tired out sick Part II Itachi

 

[Prestonyoko]

Are we really going back to this?

Yes, yes we are. Some people just never understand.

 

[Joker]

ABC logic doesn't work at all. Like AT ALL, well only when they're TIERS apart. Itachi is a bad match of for Orochimaru, similar to how Tsunade is a bad match up for Sasori.

OT: Itachi > Jiraiya

 

[itachi4real]

Are we really going back to this?

Ikr. These threads shouldve been stopped

 

[giocuesta12]

I really don't understand why people seem to think Jiraiya can solo Itachi & Kisame. That's idiodic to me.

Itachi never admitted he was completey inferior to Jiraiya. Do you know why Itachi & Jiraiya fled from their sence with Jiraiya?

1: Itachi, being a Genius of course. Chose the perfect decision in the most appropriate situation to withdraw & leave the village.

If he & Kisame would of stayed & fought Jiraiya do you even know what would happen? Reinforcments all around the Leaf Village would of came in Jiraiya's aid responding to the fight happening inside the village & Itachi & Kisame would end up fighting everyone in Konoha.

Itachi & Kisame cannot defeat the entire Leaf Village all at once.

Wouldn't be surprisded although considering he solo-ed the Leaf Village's most powerful clan all by himself when he was like 16...

Only a fool would stay & fight on enemy territory.

2: Itachi & Kisame were only responding to the hype that he has heard about Jiraiya considering Jiraiya is a famous ninja. Sannin after all.

But that doesn't mean sh-t seeing how he solo-ed the strongest Sannin in Part 1 with one technique... again WHILE he was like 16!


& to even compare Itachi Uchiha to Jiraiya is just mere disrespect to his reputation.

Jiraiya almost died trying to stop 4 Tailed Naruto!! While on the other hand a sick, eroding body Orochimaru easily fended him off.

Orochimaru even stated he would of finished Naruto if it werent for his body reaching is his limit. (Body rejecting him)

& again who solo-ed Orochimaru in part 1? How does that work..?

Jiraiya can't even defeat Itachi point blank. Throwing in Kisame as well would be an absolute overkill.

Sh-t back in Part 1 Itachi was using Amatersu just to clear a wall! That says something about his stamina back then.


I didn't excatly read the Manga Page before making this thread so hopefully theirs no screw ups

I just used what I remembered back then from watching it as a kid.. lol

Just had to make this point clear.

I agree, but I think it would be fair to say itachi dying if it was a one on one. If anything itachi would most likely end up dying just like when he fought sasuke. Who knows at this point lol.

 

[itachi4real]

ABC logic doesn't work at all. Like AT ALL, well only when they're TIERS apart. Itachi is a bad match of for Orochimaru, similar to how Tsunade is a bad match up for Sasori.

OT: Itachi > Jiraiya

:| orochimaru got soloed twice in less than 2 seconds by the great itachi

 

[Xēnovia.]

Oh, boy here we go again folks.​

 

[Vegeto30294]

I'm pretty sure the only reason Itachi left was because he had no reason to fight there.

Imagine if Itachi was actually stuck in that Toad Mouth. Oh look, more problem for less reward.

Whether Jiraiya can beat Itachi & Kisame or not, it doesn't matter, because Jiraiya was fighting to capture and Itachi was "fighting" to escape.

 

[Prestonyoko]

Are we really going back to this?



Two Tsukiyomis & One Amaterasu = 1 Tired out Part I Itachi

One Tsukiyomi /w backlash + 1 drawn out Amaterasu + 1 drawn out Susano'o = 1 Tired out sick Part II Itachi

Tired? He ran way from the Leaf Village just fine to me. Tired is a bit amping much don't you think?

& you can't truly judge Itachi's power in a fight he purpose lost the match.

ABC logic doesn't work at all. Like AT ALL, well only when they're TIERS apart. Itachi is a bad match of for Orochimaru, similar to how Tsunade is a bad match up for Sasori.

OT: Itachi > Jiraiya

Tsunade a bad matchup for Sasori? Tsunade can tank Flamethrowers now?

I agree, but I think it would be fair to say itachi dying if it was a one on one. If anything itachi would most likely end up dying just like when he fought sasuke. Who knows at this point lol.

Again, purposely lost the match. No legit win.

:| orochimaru got soloed twice in less than 2 seconds by the great itachi

Twice?

 

[Fair Warning]

We already knew this, in fact, the manga stated it

 

[WolfHaley]

He can solo Itachi, but not Kisame.

 

[itachi4real]

Twice?

Yep twice. One by genjutsu and the other by totsuka.

 

[Prestonyoko]

I'm pretty sure the only reason Itachi left was because he had no reason to fight there.

Imagine if Itachi was actually stuck in that Toad Mouth. Oh look, more problem for less reward.

Whether Jiraiya can beat Itachi & Kisame or not, it doesn't matter, because Jiraiya was fighting to capture and Itachi was "fighting" to escape.

Fighting to escape? He escaped no difficulty & got away. If Jiraiya really wanted to capture him he would of ran after him.

I bet Jiraiya was relieved greatly after seeing Itachi run away. Lol

 

[CDT23]

Itachi is for the leaf. He ran to avoid killing Naruto and Jiraiya. Jiraiya is good but I dont think he can take Itachis full arsenal.

 

[Prestonyoko]

We already knew this, in fact, the manga stated it

If it did then I supose I missed it..

He can solo Itachi, but not Kisame.

Jiraiya can't counter Amaterasu, too slow.

Yep twice. One by genjutsu and the other by totsuka.

Well technically je did but I wouldn't really count it considering Orochimaru was emerging out of a curse mark..

 

[To Whatever]

The J-Man would of killed Itachi

 

[KingHashirama]

1. They would have took Naruto if Jiraiya wasn't there..

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

As tiring as this gets to say, A>B>C logic does not work in Naruto.

Your argument about Jiraiya not being able to defeat Four-Tailed Naruto is invalid considering we actually never saw the fight. It was insinuated that Naruto just burst into the Four-Tailed state and went on a rampage whereas Orochimaru saw the initial, one and three tailed states before going into the Four Tailed state.

Also, Jiraiya was not trying to kill Naruto, whereas Orochimaru at that time did not care if he lived or died, having no personal attachment to Naruto.

While I agree that Itachi and Kisame would've owned Jiraiya at that time in a 1v1 fight on forums people always have a tendency to picture the fight being completely one-sided and only imagining how they think the fight would have gone, which, typically with Itachi, means "Amaterasu to the face" and done.

A. Amaterasu hasn't killed anybody yet for such a hyped technique.
B. When has Itachi started a fight with Amaterasu?

Jiraiya hasn't really shown incredible speed feats except in Sage Mode, and that was his only fight IN Sage Mode. It's not like even in base form he was a slug, so amping him up with Sage Mode speed would only help, plus the ability to sense danger and perception would help an evasion. Plus, Obito has noted that by sensing chakra in the eye, Amaterasu's slow burning damage can be negated.

Sage Mode makes you a sensor....

Then the argument becomes, "Welp, Sage Mode takes time".

We all act like Pain was just chillin while Jiraiya was entering Sage Mode when he actually had to summon animals to evade for him, etc.

Do I actually think Jiraiya could defeat Itachi 1v1? Not really, but we all act like there is no chance for Jiraiya to win at all.

My personal opinion is that Itachi wanted to protect Jiraiya and Naruto and watch over the Leaf. If Jiraiya actually knows the truth about Itachi (doubtful but who knows), maybe he was putting on an act so Kisame would not know that Itachi was looking out for Akatsuki on the inside.

 

[Derek1st]

Look at the nature of jiraiyas attacks. He's a perfect counter to itachi/kisame. Super speed + sensing, makes amaterasu obsolete (also he proved he can seal it). Tsukyomi is pointless on a shinobi who can fight blind. Susano'o can't last long, SM lasts forever. Also add giant summons, hax water style techniques counter kisame's. more importantly, mixing oil with water lets you light it on fire. Kisame would absorb sage chakra and turn to stone. Jiraiya is the PERFECT counter for both of them