EMS Madara vs BSM Naruto

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It's difficult to judge whether PS would be able to tank a Senjutsu Bijuudama.
 

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It's literally Madara Vs half a Bijuu.

Madara still wins.
 

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Madara low diff
 

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Yet that half a Bijuu matched 5 in power. Naruto's BM avatar has much higher showings than PS as it is.​

But it's still only half of the one that Madara brought under his heel. His unstable Susano'o tanked a point-blank Bijuu Dama off the real thing.
 

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Hard to see Madara winning. In BM alone Naruto matches PS's explosive power, and Madara said himself that Bijuu are the only ones who's power matches PS.
 

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But it's still only half of the one that Madara brought under his heel. His unstable Susano'o tanked a point-blank Bijuu Dama off the real thing.

Bijuu control doesn't work in this match so that's moot.

Perfect Susano'O's highest showing was tanking one Bijudama. That doesn't amount to much when Naruto can shoot off four of them or use Flash Bijudama or Ultimate Bijudama, the aforementioned both capable of wrecking Islands.​
 

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Bijuu control doesn't work in this match so that's moot.

Perfect Susano'O's highest showing was tanking one Bijudama. That doesn't amount to much when Naruto can shoot off four of them or use Flash Bijudama or Ultimate Bijudama, the aforementioned both capable of wrecking Islands.​

It wasn't an actual argument.

It wasn't perfect Susano'o as it wasn't stabilised. Shooting off four smaller Bijuu Dama is pretty much the same as one larger one. Again, the one his weaker Susano'o withstood was from a 100% Kyuubi.
 

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I thought Naruto in his Kurama avatar was stronger than 100% Kyuubi because of intelligence and chakra combinations and sh*t.
 

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It wasn't an actual argument.

It wasn't perfect Susano'o as it wasn't stabilised. Shooting off four smaller Bijuu Dama is pretty much the same as one larger one. Again, the one his weaker Susano'o withstood was from a 100% Kyuubi.

Perfect Susano'O was stabilized in the middle of the explosion. That makes the feat even weaker.

The AoE of each of the Renzoku Bijjudama are comparable to one normal one. Bijudama's strength is dictated by how much chakra was pumped into it anyways, so it doesn't matter that it was the full Kyuubi.​
 

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Well not in terms of actual strength. The 100% Kyuubi is far larger and has the Yin(?) chakra that Naruto doesn't have.

Perfect Susano'O was stabilized in the middle of the explosion. That makes the feat even weaker.

The AoE of each of the Renzoku Bijjudama are comparable to one normal one. Bijudama's strength is dictated by how much chakra was pumped into it anyways, so it doesn't matter that it was the full Kyuubi.​

No it wasn't.

Prove it. Spitting out unfocused Bijuu Dama will unavoidably be weaker than one that is. That is where the Dama's strength comes from.
 
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Maddy's PS can attack faster than Naruto can shoot off Bijuudamas, output way more damage
 

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EMS Madara wins. PS tanked thousands of Shin-Senju attacks and then began to flake off. I don't see Naruto matching its power in just 8 minutes. Continuous Slashes from PS sword would not only prevent the charge but make them blow up in Naruto's face as we saw when Naruto was practicing Bijuu-Dama in KCM and when Deva abruptly interrupted the charge. Genjutsu would also give Madara the window to tackle Naruto. PS has more than enough defense to take on BDs and survive it. To state that it cannot, it's nothing but speculation. EMS Madara wins mid-difference most.
 

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He soloes a debate without delving into Sasuke's instruments. Nice!

How goes the debate?
 

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No it wasn't.

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Prove it. Spitting out unfocused Bijuu Dama will unavoidably be weaker than one that is. That is where the Dama's strength comes from.

Its common sense. That why Naruto was able to match 5 Biju's Bijudama by pumping more chakra into it.​
 

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^ PS didn't tank thousands of Shinsuusenju's hands. Most of its hands were destroyed by the multiple Bijuudama/PS slash combinations before its hands even touched PS.
 

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Depends if Naruto can get enough distance to safely charge massive TBB and shoot, though knowing the speed of PS's slashes and the range they have, makes it impossible. So i will say Madara.
 

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Hard to say. EMS Madara needed Kurama just to take Hashirama in base, eventually Hashirama shut him up with sage mode.

Now Naruto has Kurama on his side + Sage Mode, plus the power of Bunta, Ken and Hiro on his side.

Continuous tailed beast bombs is a major problem for Madara and his perfect susanoo to deal with. And these are senjutsu enhanced tailed beast bombs.

BM speed is gonna be difficult for Madaras eyes to follow if he's not in susanoo.

I think I'll have to go with Naruto. Sage enhanced tailed beast Justus are a lot to handle, and giant toads also add a lot of fire power. Madara May wipe them out, but they'll still do damage before that, Gamakichi and his sage techniques alone are troublesome.

Naruto very high diff, his guts and determination see him through.

If this was Rinnegan Madara (not sage madara) then it's a different story
 
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