Pure Physical Strength in NV

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Punk Hazard

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You guiz need 2 stop being rude 2 each other

Like that'll happen on NB.

And to answer your status, nowadays, "opinion" is a word used when someone is contradicted, argued with or proven wrong, but don't have the intelligence or means of providing a rebuttal. It's an excuse, especially on NB.
 

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Chakra points being blocked hinder taijutsu because your chakra points blocked hurts the muscles and causes pain to the body, hindering movement. The taijutsu is stopped not as a resullt of chakra stopping, but because the method used to stop the chakra(I assume your talking about Gentle Fist since nothing else does that) hurts the body so much it's hard to move. This furthers our point that taijutsu is dependent on the user's physical strength and body, and not chakra, since stress on the body hinders taijutsu.

Chakra being drained to a certain level can hinder taijutsu, not because chakra is required and used in taijutsu, but because physical stamina is a key component of chakra, so it's lost along with chakra. Physical stamina is what is used in taijutsu, not chakra. Extreme draining of chakra CAN hinder movement and by extension, taijutsu, but using taijutsu does not drain or use up any chakra with the exception of certain techniques, such as Gates or nintaijutsu.

King Hashirama, the problem here is that while you are correct in that losing enough chakra causes exhaustion and thus, renders someone unable to use taijutsu, you are incorrect in saying this means using taijutsu uses up or expends chakra.

I already told you bro, you can present facts and logic all you want but clowns wont listen, he knows his wrong but too shame to admit, disgraceful.
 

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So no 3rd Raikage ? ._.)

I was considering him, but all he's really shown is a tough body. We haven't really seen him being as physically strong as A with his raw strength.
 

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I'm not here to counter it.. what i stated is in the manga also... I simply go on what happened in action, after it was said.

Tell that to Naruto who couldn't use taijutsu with his chakra network blocked =]



He said Physical strength.. Physical means = body.. not chakra. Tsunade and chakra still use their own body to touch things, however they have the chakra in that hand to help them out.

BSM Naruto uses pure chakra..

And notice that i told you that there is no category for "enhanced" speed. Just saying.. cause strength is strength..

Striking strength / leg strength and etc are categories that determine the strength of a specific body part..

But sure you can make a category.. but Manga puts them on the same category..


But then you'll have to take away the tough body of Rock lee and Guy to make it a fair challenge.. Otherwise you are taking a skill of others.. while not evening out others..

Physical strength = comes from your body... Tsunade and Sakura use their physical bodies.. not chakra.. they simply have chakra in that specific hand that they use to punch..

Check the op posts he includes chakra enhance feats meaning his meaning of physical is not what you say it's (atleast not in this thread or what the op is talking about) is sm naruto strength feat by your definition?
 

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I guess because he's more durable than strong. (._.) Idk man idk.

I was considering him, but all he's really shown is a tough body. We haven't really seen him being as physically strong as A with his raw strength.

I see I see , but when he goes on his finger mode destroyer it doesn't count as raw power then ?
 
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Chakra points being blocked hinder taijutsu because your chakra points blocked hurts the muscles and causes pain to the body, hindering movement. The taijutsu is stopped not as a resullt of chakra stopping, but because the method used to stop the chakra(I assume your talking about Gentle Fist since nothing else does that) hurts the body so much it's hard to move. This furthers our point that taijutsu is dependent on the user's physical strength and body, and not chakra, since stress on the body hinders taijutsu.

Chakra being drained to a certain level can hinder taijutsu, not because chakra is required and used in taijutsu, but because physical stamina is a key component of chakra, so it's lost along with chakra. Physical stamina is what is used in taijutsu, not chakra. Extreme draining of chakra CAN hinder movement and by extension, taijutsu, but using taijutsu does not drain or use up any chakra with the exception of certain techniques, such as Gates or nintaijutsu.

King Hashirama, the problem here is that while you are correct in that losing enough chakra causes exhaustion and thus, renders someone unable to use taijutsu, you are incorrect in saying this means using taijutsu uses up or expends chakra.

I understand what you are saying, but my argument is this:

@Bold, but why does it cause harm?

Chakra uses the physical energies present in every single cell of the body, that is made through by training your body. And sadly no, the method itself hasn't been said to hurt the user..


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What hurts the user is the blocking of chakra, which causes damage to the organs.



Further more when the chakra openings are put down or closed.

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It is an envitable fact that chakra power ups the body. What i'm trying to say is whether you do not have efficient chakra control like Tsunade and sakura over chakra.. every ninja still uses chakra for taijutsu. Only difference is the amount used isn't huge..


Check the op posts he includes chakra enhance feats meaning his meaning of physical is not what you say it's (atleast not in this thread or what the op is talking about) is sm naruto strength feat by your definition?

he clearly didn't mention BM now did he..
 

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I had to pick Tsunade, Sakura has a better punching feat than her. But Tsunade shredded that wood clone which is just as durable as the real thing or else it would fool noone, Tsunade also has a lifting feat.
 

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I understand what you are saying, but my argument is this:

@Bold, but why does it cause harm?

Chakra uses the physical energies present in every single cell of the body, that is made through by training your body. And sadly no, the method itself hasn't been said to hurt the user..


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What hurts the user is the blocking of chakra, which causes damage to the organs.



Further more when the chakra openings are put down or closed.

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It is an envitable fact that chakra power ups the body. What i'm trying to say is whether you do not have efficient chakra control like Tsunade and sakura over chakra.. every ninja still uses chakra for taijutsu. Only difference is the amount used isn't huge..




he clearly didn't mention BM now did he..
Actually I was slightly wrong. Blocking chakra with Gentle Fist hinders taijutsu because of damage to organs, which impairs the body's ability to move. We've already explained how taijutsu doesn't use chakra. You need to
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I wonder what 4th Raikage and Tsunade's child will look like.
 

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if he still denies this then my sig pretty much sums it all up
Answer me this then, Is Ems Madara on Hashirama's level or not?

Actually I was slightly wrong. Blocking chakra with Gentle Fist hinders taijutsu because of damage to organs, which impairs the body's ability to move. We've already explained how taijutsu doesn't use chakra. You need to
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aaaanddd you stlll aren't understanding my point here.

The damage to the organs is caused by the damage to the chakra points, that deliver chakra to every single cell.

Why else would Neji be Rock Lee's opposite, and coincidentally Lee learned the Gates to counter Neji.....

You block chakra points = you make taijutsu useless and pathetic.
 

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Lol KH you are such a hypocrite.. you always say Kish>whatever we say but when it's used against you it doesn't mean crap. While I wouldn't personally hate you I do have to say you're the biggest ignorant member on this site.
 
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