Pure Physical Strength in NV

[KingHashirama]

no problem dog, im so tired of this niga's BS, my spidy senses always tingle when I see a post from him,smh clowns bro.



lol still denying the manga? kishimotos words>your BS

False, its called staying up to date.

Funny that anything you believe is right is Kishimoto's word, but everything someone else says is their BS.

It was kishimoto himself who decided to make taijutsu useless when the chakra points are locked down. It was Kishimoto himself who put chakra and stamina in the same category.. even though making a chart saying they are different..

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Choji is like relly strong too

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Pts bm choji is as strong as if not stronger than jirobo.
But like sakura and tsunade he uses chakra to argument his strength(butterfly bullet bomb)

 

[~Sky~]

So every scan I've looked over 10 times is invalid now. Better write Kishimoto and let him know.

 

[Prince Charles]

False, its called staying up to date.

Funny that anything you believe is right is Kishimoto's word, but everything someone else says is their BS.

It was kishimoto himself who decided to make taijutsu useless when the chakra points are locked down. It was Kishimoto himself who put chakra and stamina in the same category.. even though making a chart saying they are different..

clown.

I can't even deal with his last post xD "Showing me a scan I've seen ten times now isn't gonna change my mind." Dude has to be trolling.

Man like I said bro his a clown, dont waste your time on him. His performance was mediocre and eye pleasing at best and Ill applaud him for the effort but thats it!

 

[KingHashirama]

So every scan I've looked over 10 times is invalid now. Better write Kishimoto and let him know.

Funny that you people like bringing kishimoto into things when you can't discuss it out. And counter the logic of that person.

So you are telling me i must agree with everything i see 10 times?

 

[~Sky~]

Funny that you people like bringing kishimoto into things when you can't discuss it out. And counter the logic of that person.

So you are telling me i must agree with everything i see 10 times?

The scan clearly says stamina =/= chakra.

You have no backing to that argument.

 

[Javaweb]

Pts bm choji is as strong as if not stronger than jirobo.
But like sakura and tsunade he uses chakra to argument his strength(butterfly bullet bomb)

Yep he is stronger

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But indeed he do use chakra

 

[~Sky~]

Sennin Modo Naruto has to be really strong. He casually tosses Rhino's like they're sacks of potatoes.

 

[KingHashirama]

The scan clearly says stamina =/= chakra.

You have no backing to that argument.

I'm not backing my argument? Holy sh*t. I'm done.

Chakra points get blocked = Taijutsu can't be performed. WHY? I mean chakra has nothing to do with your taijutsu right..

Don't tell me i'm not backing my argument, when i provided plenty of reasons, that you people haven't countered.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Mate grow the hell up... if you want to prove someone wrong then you can do it without being childish. And then you people b*tch and moan about trolls.

Posting a scan that i already looked at 10 times now, isn't gonna change anything. Due to the fact loss of stamina = loss of chakra... something you aren't comprehending.

You lock down the chakra points = your body stops moving. Why? Because movement itself requires chakra.....


Fact = its called chakra enhanced STRENGTH


Minato is the fastest man due to shunshin and Hirashin.. unless you wanna say Guy or Rock lee are faster.. and that Minato's quickness isn't due to his speed.. but due to chakra control..

Rock Lee and guy are fast if we don't include argumentation techniques like body Flickr, ftg, lightning armor etc.
I have no qualms about admitting that.

Physical strength=/= chakra enhanced strength. Using chakra as a supplement instead of relying purely on stamina is considered an augmentation. Same as body flicker, lightning armour, sage mode etc.

 

[~Sky~]

I'm not backing my argument? Holy sh*t. I'm done.

Chakra points get blocked = Taijutsu can't be performed. WHY? I mean chakra has nothing to do with your taijutsu right..

Don't tell me i'm not backing my argument, when i provided plenty of reasons, that you people haven't countered.

Your reasons still don't counter the manga directly saying Taijutsu requires no chakra. Get it through your head.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yep he is stronger

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But indeed he do use chakra

I wonder if he can use those wings to fly...

 

[warlee]

Logically, you are able to lift things 10-50x times the size of the damage you make with a punch.. just saying.

I don't see why you people care to put a difference between chakra enhanced strength and strength.. Its like saying people who workout and increase their strength are different than people who just do their daily sh*t and don't work out..



1. Naruto uses ninjutsu.. BSM = ninjutsu....



False, speed is speed. There are simply different categories of speed . However do you see a category for enhanced speed? no.... Because the matter of the fact is enhanced speed is still speed.

Stinking speed /leg speed and etc are speed of different parts of your body..

You admit there are different categories of speed why can't their be different categories of strength? Bsm is a mode and everything goes in this thread even sm which is also a mode.

 

[KingHashirama]

Your reasons still don't counter the manga directly saying Taijutsu requires no chakra. Get it through your head.

:vincent:

I'm not here to counter it.. what i stated is in the manga also... I simply go on what happened in action, after it was said.

Tell that to Naruto who couldn't use taijutsu with his chakra network blocked =]

You admit there are different categories of speed why can't their be different categories of strength? Bsm is a mode and everything goes in this thread even sm which is also a mode.

He said Physical strength.. Physical means = body.. not chakra. Tsunade and chakra still use their own body to touch things, however they have the chakra in that hand to help them out.

BSM Naruto uses pure chakra..

And notice that i told you that there is no category for "enhanced" speed. Just saying.. cause strength is strength..

Striking strength / leg strength and etc are categories that determine the strength of a specific body part..

But sure you can make a category.. but Manga puts them on the same category..

Rock Lee and guy are fast if we don't include argumentation techniques like body Flickr, ftg, lightning armor etc.
I have no qualms about admitting that.

Physical strength=/= chakra enhanced strength. Using chakra as a supplement instead of relying purely on stamina is considered an augmentation. Same as body flicker, lightning armour, sage mode etc.

But then you'll have to take away the tough body of Rock lee and Guy to make it a fair challenge.. Otherwise you are taking a skill of others.. while not evening out others..

Physical strength = comes from your body... Tsunade and Sakura use their physical bodies.. not chakra.. they simply have chakra in that specific hand that they use to punch..

 

[~Sky~]

:vincent:

I'm not here to counter it.. what i stated is in the manga also... I simply go on what happened in action, after it was said.

Tell that to Naruto who couldn't use taijutsu with his chakra network blocked =]

Really? Show me the scan saying Taijutsu requires chakra.

 

[-Punk-]

lol Why does every got damn hot thread has to involve this ignorant ass against the world -_- ? seriously KH@.

OT : What about the 3rd Raikage? isn't he stronger than Ay , physically ?

 

[Xēnovia.]

I'm not pointing figures, but a certain someone's posts gave me cancer.​

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm not backing my argument? Holy sh*t. I'm done.

Chakra points get blocked = Taijutsu can't be performed. WHY? I mean chakra has nothing to do with your taijutsu right..

Don't tell me i'm not backing my argument, when i provided plenty of reasons, that you people haven't countered.

Chakra points being blocked hinder taijutsu because your chakra points blocked hurts the muscles and causes pain to the body, hindering movement. The taijutsu is stopped not as a resullt of chakra stopping, but because the method used to stop the chakra(I assume your talking about Gentle Fist since nothing else does that) hurts the body so much it's hard to move. This furthers our point that taijutsu is dependent on the user's physical strength and body, and not chakra, since stress on the body hinders taijutsu.

Chakra being drained to a certain level can hinder taijutsu, not because chakra is required and used in taijutsu, but because physical stamina is a key component of chakra, so it's lost along with chakra. Physical stamina is what is used in taijutsu, not chakra. Extreme draining of chakra CAN hinder movement and by extension, taijutsu, but using taijutsu does not drain or use up any chakra with the exception of certain techniques, such as Gates or nintaijutsu.

King Hashirama, the problem here is that while you are correct in that losing enough chakra causes exhaustion and thus, renders someone unable to use taijutsu, you are incorrect in saying this means using taijutsu uses up or expends chakra.

 

[Javaweb]

I wonder if he can use those wings to fly...

Yep he can

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[Made in Heaven]

You guiz need 2 stop being rude 2 each other