[Theory] Hagoromo Doesnt Gave Senju/Uchiha In +More

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Hagoromo Doesnt Have Senju/Uchiha In +More

People keep on saying that the SO6Ps has Senju/Uchiha Dna or he is both clans this is false and they repeatedly said it in the manga

COAT (Creation of all things) allows the sage to being life into creation from his imagination

So this means he created them in the image He wanted them to be because possibly he couldn't have kids by having the juubi in him so saying this there not related to him and the brother's themselves aren't related to each other at all!

How?
Hinata (Hyuuga) loves Naruto (Uzumaki)
Hashirama (Senju) sexed Mito (Uzumaki) making Tsunade (Uzumaki/senju Dna)
^
people think this is incest but it isn't since there not even family

This is incest among the clans if this happens
Sasuke (Uchiha) Sexed Hinata (Hyuuga)
how is that incest????

BECAUSE THERE BLOOD FAMILY! From the ancestor uchiha

I have gotten all this from the manga on Viz as it stated "Uchihas sharingan are derived from hyuuga bloodline"

Since people can't read.....
Where is Hagoromo wife?
Who is Hagoromo wife?
how was the clan born?

What obito said "Once and the same"
^ yes technically they are from Hagoromo but there not his actual sons people who can't seem to read needs to stop posting only thing obito said correctly

The he was the 2 clans and 2 blooodlines
That's just what obito might have thought because he never read the tablet

:happy: Short....Logical....Factual?
 
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Clans and families are different I'm pretty sure.

Within an entire clan there is a wide variety of family branches, and in fact most people would end up starting a family with someone from their own clan. That's how they continue to be clans instead of all blurring together.
 

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I agree on everything except where you said this ''Hashirama (Senju) sexed Mito (Uzumaki) making Tsunade (Uzumaki/senju Dna)'' This is wrong since Tsunade is his grandaughter, not his daughter.
 

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Clans and families are different I'm pretty sure.

Within an entire clan there is a wide variety of family branches, and in fact most people would end up starting a family with someone from their own clan. That's how they continue to be clans instead of all blurring together.

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I agree on everything except where you said this ''Hashirama (Senju) sexed Mito (Uzumaki) making Tsunade (Uzumaki/senju Dna)'' This is wrong since Tsunade is his grandaughter, not his daughter.

Lol I know that I wasn't gonna type alot so I just made it short
 

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People keep on saying that the SO6Ps has Senju/Uchiha Dna or he is both clans this is false and they repeatedly said it

COAT (Creation of all things) allows the sage to being life into creation from his imagination

So this means he created them in the image. He wanted because possibly he couldn't have kids by having the juubi in him so saying this there not relates to him and tbe brother's aren't related to each other at all!

How?
Hinata (Hyuuga) loves Naruto (Uzumaki)
Hashirama (Senju) sexed Mito (Uzumaki) making Tsunade (Uzumaki/senju Dna)
^
people think this is incest but it isn't since there not even family

This is incest among the clans if this happens
Sasuke (Uchiha) Sexed Hinata (Hyuuga)
how is that incest???? BECAUSE THERE BLOOD FAMILY! From the ancestor uchiha

I have gotten all this from the manga on Viz as it stated "Uchihas sharingan are derived from hyuuga bloodline"

:happy: Short....Logical....Factual?

What is this sh*t? He never used Banbatsu Sozo to create his sons. That was never stated. Senju and Uzumaki are related. This is a manga fact. It's not even confirmed that Uchiha and Hyuuga are related. Not only did Kakashi admit that was a rumor, we know it to be false, since we know were Sharingan comes from.
 

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Clans and families are different I'm pretty sure.

Within an entire clan there is a wide variety of family branches, and in fact most people would end up starting a family with someone from their own clan. That's how they continue to be clans instead of all blurring together.
It can't be since there should be more uchiha/senjus alive as you forget uchiha stayed together and senju just randomly seized to exist for no reason
 

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What is this sh*t? He never used Banbatsu Sozo to create his sons. That was never stated. Senju and Uzumaki are related. This is a manga fact. It's not even confirmed that Uchiha and Hyuuga are related. Not only did Kakashi admit that was a rumor, we know it to be false, since we know were Sharingan comes from.

Your not so right.....please read the manga and no because you didn't read nothing I posted if there related dumbass then its incest but there not
 

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People keep on saying that the SO6Ps has Senju/Uchiha Dna or he is both clans this is false and they repeatedly said it in the manga

COAT (Creation of all things) allows the sage to being life into creation from his imagination

So this means he created them in the image He wanted them to be because possibly he couldn't have kids by having the juubi in him so saying this there not related to him and the brother's themselves aren't related to each other at all!

How?
Hinata (Hyuuga) loves Naruto (Uzumaki)
Hashirama (Senju) sexed Mito (Uzumaki) making Tsunade (Uzumaki/senju Dna)
^
people think this is incest but it isn't since there not even family

This is incest among the clans if this happens
Sasuke (Uchiha) Sexed Hinata (Hyuuga)
how is that incest????

BECAUSE THERE BLOOD FAMILY! From the ancestor uchiha

I have gotten all this from the manga on Viz as it stated "Uchihas sharingan are derived from hyuuga bloodline"

:happy: Short....Logical....Factual?

Actually, I think Obito already stated that the Sage was both clans in one, ppl believe the Sage used In'youton to create his sons, but it hasnt been stated
 

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It can't be since there should be more uchiha/senjus alive as you forget uchiha stayed together and senju just randomly seized to exist for no reason

There are a ton of Uchiha alive still. They simply have no character development because they aren't characters in the story (Konoha's entire police force is comprised of Uchiha for example and there are enough of them to have plotted a coup detat against all of the Leaf).

Tsunade is Senju, beyond that I really don't know why you never see any others. But regardless, none of this changes my original point.
 

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Actually, I think Obito already stated that the Sage was both clans in one, ppl believe the Sage used In'youton to create his sons, but it hasnt been stated
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You fail to see ***********/panda have wrong translations

Corrections aren't made so let state this where is the sages wife? Because there evidence to say Coat was used to create the son's & tailed beast
 
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You fail to see ***********/panda have wrong translations

Corrections aren't made so let state this where is the aages wife? Because there evidence to say Coat was used to create the son's & tailed beast

You sir are delusional. No where in the Manga does it ever mention that he created his sons with jutsu. I'm not saying he didn't because he could have(maybe). I'm just saying that it isn't stated in the manga.
 

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There are a ton of Uchiha alive still. They simply have no character development because they aren't characters in the story (Konoha's entire police force is comprised of Uchiha for example and there are enough of them to have plotted a coup detat against all of the Leaf).

Tsunade is Senju, beyond that I really don't know why you never see any others. But regardless, none of this changes my original point.
your point in this is invalid as I am talking about Bloodlines & Hagoromo your simply saying clans as if it mattered among them as I stated It
 

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You sir are delusional. No where in the Manga does it ever mention that he created his sons with jutsu. I'm not saying he didn't because he could have(maybe). I'm just saying that it isn't stated in the manga.
Then why doesn't the senju have a kekkei genkai? Why are both clans different and not the same? Where the mother? Where is there birthplace?
 

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your point in this is invalid as I am talking about Bloodlines & Hagoromo your simply saying clans as if it mattered among them as I stated It

Alright man. Having a really hard time following what you're trying to say in each post TBH.

Just trying to explain Uchiha and Hyuga are absolutely not blood relatives; even if they possibly could share a common ancestry way way back.

Peace out man.
 

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Then why doesn't the senju have a kekkei genkai? Why are both clans different and not the same? Where the mother? Where is there birthplace?
Who is Hagoromo's father?
Who is Kakashi's mother?
Who is Kurenai's mother?

Just because they havent made an appearance in the series does not mean they do not exist v_v If that were the case then, Hagoromo was made via COAT
Kurenai was made via COAT
etc
See how nonsensical that sounds...
v_v
 

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Who is Hagoromo's father?
Who is Kakashi's mother?
Who is Kurenai's mother?

Just because they havent made an appearance in the series does not mean they do not exist v_v If that were the case then, Hagoromo was made via COAT
Kurenai was made via COAT
etc
See how nonsensical that sounds...
v_v

Hagoromo was life birth also those aren't the matters here please stay on topic
 

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You fail to see ***********/panda have wrong translations

Corrections aren't made so let state this where is the sages wife? Because there evidence to say Coat was used to create the son's & tailed beast
you just proved yourself wrong. in the upper left corner of the page you posted obito stated that the sage was the two clans and the two bloodlines in one. also even if he used creation of all things it would still be more like 50 percent clones of himself rather than not being related.
 

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This has to be the strangest thread I'v read in a time, and from your replies to others, you are quite hostile. So I will stand with only the facts that have been given to us, and as well give a small theory.

The manga has stated that the Senju and Uzumaki are distant blood relatives and they are from the same person. They originate from the Younger Son of Hagoromo. The Uchiha are the only confirmed clan to originate from the Older Son however its highly likely that the Hyuuga also originate from there. Though it has never been confirmed, as Kakashi commented that their Kekkai Genkai's were linked somehow, but he also said it was only a rumor. ( Which explain it, seeing how they were the only two clans with special Dojutsu like that. ) Now, about Creation of All Things, we don't know the limits or the power of his jutsu yet. Its never been shown, only spoken of. So it may actually not be as fantastic as people thing, because if it was then Madara wouldn't need an illusion, he could just form the world as he wanted without the illusion. Heck, Hagoromo still needed a source to create the Bijuus and he wasn't able to destroy the Gedo so that means your COAT isn't an almighty jutsu.
 

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This has to be the strangest thread I'v read in a time, and from your replies to others, you are quite hostile. So I will stand with only the facts that have been given to us, and as well give a small theory.

The manga has stated that the Senju and Uzumaki are distant blood relatives and they are from the same person. They originate from the Younger Son of Hagoromo. The Uchiha are the only confirmed clan to originate from the Older Son however its highly likely that the Hyuuga also originate from there. Though it has never been confirmed, as Kakashi commented that their Kekkai Genkai's were linked somehow, but he also said it was only a rumor. ( Which explain it, seeing how they were the only two clans with special Dojutsu like that. ) Now, about Creation of All Things, we don't know the limits or the power of his jutsu yet. Its never been shown, only spoken of. So it may actually not be as fantastic as people thing, because if it was then Madara wouldn't need an illusion, he could just form the world as he wanted without the illusion. Heck, Hagoromo still needed a source to create the Bijuus and he wasn't able to destroy the Gedo so that means your COAT isn't an almighty jutsu.

I strongly disagree, i believe that Kishi hadn't thought the whole story through at the point where Kakashi mentions the link between the Byuakugan and the Sharingan...

the Byuakugan is activated through hand seals and only increases perceptiveness, it is nothing like the Sharingan...
 
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