Scary paralell

[LED ZEPPELIN]

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Black means 1928 to 1930.
Red means last 24 months.


You decide what's true.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I must be an idiot, cuz I can't tell what the f*ck this is about.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I must be an idiot, cuz I can't tell what the f*ck this is about.

How can you not understand this? It's so obvious! It says... ughh... it says....yeah I have no f*cking clue either.

 

[Avery Namikaze]

So? The current one is still lower.

 

[Gyakusetsu]

So you're telling me I'm about to have a tremendous buying opportunity?

 

[RufusSerano]

I think he wants to point out that the trends are the same, rather than the fact that they are offset and that - if the trend would continue to follow the trend of a few years ago, wich is pure speculation - a huge drop in the market would follow soon.

 

[Aim64C]

How can you not understand this? It's so obvious! It says... ughh... it says....yeah I have no f*cking clue either.

It's the Dow Jones Industrial Average compared to the months prior to the Stock Market Crash that triggered the "Great Depression" and today.

Generally speaking - we have an almost identical problem in terms of weakening industry and stocks being bought on credit (since the Federal Reserve is printing money left and right - it is an unsecured flood of currency - which is why the markets are 'up' - the market is attempting to sink the flood of currency that has no real value).

Now... will history follow identically?

It's hard to tell. Trends follow until they don't.

The similarities in our economy and the similarities in the market performance are... disturbing - but it doesn't take a ghost of markets past to reveal the fatal flaws in our current economic system.

Also, Led, I see you listen to the Glen Beck program.

 

[EnDash]

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Black means 1928 to 1930.
Red means last 24 months.


You decide what's true.

so after your last 3 "the world is going to end!" threads failed you resort to supernatural claims.

in economy certain months and dates have the same impacts everytime they happen because of the stuff that happens on them. for instace on black friday demands are always very high and every month on paycheck day people tend to buy a little more then on normal days. hell you can see a recurring theme on an hourly basis where certain hours of the day people use heating/cooling much more and electricity usage is higher in the day then in the night, in winter they tend to buy more alcohol and in summer they tend to buy more soft drinks.

the fact that in 4am tonight the traffic goes down to almost nothing doesn't mean we ran out of gasoline. i bet that chart holds for more or less every 2 year period in dow jones's history.

 

[Aim64C]

so after your last 3 "the world is going to end!" threads failed you resort to supernatural claims.

in economy certain months and dates have the same impacts everytime they happen because of the stuff that happens on them. for instace on black friday demands are always very high and every month on paycheck day people tend to buy a little more then on normal days. hell you can see a recurring theme on an hourly basis where certain hours of the day people use heating/cooling much more and electricity usage is higher in the day then in the night, in winter they tend to buy more alcohol and in summer they tend to buy more soft drinks.

the fact that in 4am tonight the traffic goes down to almost nothing doesn't mean we ran out of gasoline. i bet that chart holds for more or less every 2 year period in dow jones's history.

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1900-present.

Bulls climb steps, bears fall out of windows; as the saying goes.

We can argue whether or not the trend is 'identical' -or whether that even matters. The fact is that these types of booms almost always precede very substantial 'busts.'

You'll notice that, back when we were still on a "gold and silver standard," the rise and fall of investment activity was quasi-stable with a practical limit to the 'height' of the market.

The question is: "When does our printing money mean we go from 15,000 points back to its natural value between 50 and 150 points?"

It will happen. The 'higher' the market climbs, the worse the health of our monetary system and the more severe the inevitable collapse will be.

We have virtually no industry left in this country. Education is inflated and ineffective. Healthcare is inflated in cost and artificially restricted. Most of the industry we have left is reliant upon government contracts for survival.

Costs will continue to rise. More money will have to be printed. Taxes will have to be raised (and your IRAs will be confiscated to fund the debt - those are for rich people and inhibit the poor... or so the argument will go).

They did it in Cyprus. They are doing it in the EU. They will do it here.

The next "big one" may just be what does our economies in.

Or it may not... but the longer it persists - the worse it is going to be when it finally does happen.

Personally - I think it will trend 'up' for a while. People still have faith in our system - that things can be fixed. Faith is what gives our currency its value (outside of Opec).

Reality will be forced on us when we receive 2014's bill for Medicare, Medicaid and the insurance companies under Obamacare.

Faith in the existing system will fall out, and the dollar will become almost worthless with a single press release. Treasury bonds will bottom out in value because it will be apparent that our nation has absolutely no ability to control the inflation of its currency.

America's reliance upon foreign commerce to supply basic wares and goods will end up biting us in the ass harder than we can imagine. Domestically - if dollars are all we have and know - they will retain value because people need something to serve as a currency (and proliferation of physical gold/silver will take a while to catch up). Physical currency (printed dollars and change) will be substantially more valuable than EBT, since a run on the banks will soak up the measly $1-2T in circulation that is supposed to represent a GPD of over $20T literally overnight - exposing the extremes to which Fractional Reserve Banking has been done under the Federal Reserve monopoly.

Internationally - the dollar will be almost impossible to trade in. Even Opec will have to begin trading in something else - because it will simply not be possible to keep up with the explosive inflation of the dollar. Using the dollar as a transient investment to spend printed money before the effect of inflation is felt will be impractical when the dollar is inflating 3-5% per day.

So the deal will no longer benefit Opec, and they will remove themselves from it.

Gold and silver will become the standard of international trade and of non-local trade within the U.S.

Truck stops will become the cultural hubs of humanity. Many basic goods and services will spring up around communities of moderate population density. Some analysts insist that cities are 'the way to go' during a collapse - but the reality is that those are far too dependent upon steady transportation of resources for daily sustenance and the land area is simply not there to support populations of that density. Cities will collapse.

Into semi-urban areas - still close enough to walk a number of places, but with enough space that individuals and families can realistically farm. Remote and rural areas will survive - but not exactly prosper. Transportation will be expensive, so it will be difficult to access the more compact clusters of trades that semi-urban areas enjoy.

Where truck stops will be the hubs of activity. Silver and gold will be traded directly with small trucking convoys that will trade goods between these semi-urban areas. Fuel will be one of the more precious of resources - being what the majority of gold and silver is exchanged for - though proliferation will be relatively slow for a while.

Depending upon how things go - you might find me as a "rider" - armed security for truckers - as they'll certainly be a target of ambushes.

Should be a relatively entertaining world we find ourselves in.