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So you're basically saying that all Zetsus could handle SM? Cool story bro :)

Zetsu is and experimentation of hashi cells... And the hashi cells are what's aiding madras to use SM chakra... I mean the zetsu have to be able to know sage mode they are off hashi cells and also summoned the senju statue. hashirama summoned it in sage mode.... You are just a fan boy who can't seem to put 2 and 2 together. (Ps it's 4)
 

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So suddenly you need skills to handle SM? I still would like to see the manga proof were it says that Senjus cells will enhance your chance to deal with SM. The funny thing is we know no other Senju except for Hashirama who could deal with SM :|
Where do I say Senju cells? I said Hashirama's cells. The cells of someone who gained that sage mode and who can handle it.
 

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It's not his own ability allowing him to control SM it's the cells... You just don't understand that his strength has been coming from having hashi cells....

As I said, pls proof me that senju cells enhance your ability to deal with SM. I also never said, that Madaras strenght wasn't increased by Hashiramas cells.
 

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Where do I say Senju cells? I said Hashirama's cells. The cells of someone who gained that sage mode and who can handle it.

I'm still waiting for proof :/
 

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So suddenly you need skills to handle SM? I still would like to see the manga proof were it says that Senjus cells will enhance your chance to deal with SM. The funny thing is we know no other Senju except for Hashirama who could deal with SM :|

Hashi cells enhances the persons abilities hence chakra control would be an ability/skill.... If naruto didn't have skill he would be a toad. If Kabuto wasn't skilled he would be a snake. If hashi didn't have skill he'd be what ever his sage contract is.
 

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Zetsu is and experimentation of hashi cells... And the hashi cells are what's aiding madras to use SM chakra... I mean the zetsu have to be able to know sage mode they are off hashi cells and also summoned the senju statue. hashirama summoned it in sage mode.... You are just a fan boy who can't seem to put 2 and 2 together. (Ps it's 4)

Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not a Madara fanboy. I just don't deny his abilities like you do :)
 

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Hashi cells enhances the persons abilities hence chakra control would be an ability/skill.... If naruto didn't have skill he would be a toad. If Kabuto wasn't skilled he would be a snake. If hashi didn't have skill he'd be what ever his sage contract is.

So it's the same with Madara :|
 

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I'm still waiting for proof :/
Proof for what?
The fact that the sage markings are on the face of Hashirama, on Madara's chest, proves that
it is Hashirama's dna, that makes Madara's sage mode possible.
If Madara was at the lvl to be able to handle sage mode without Hashirama's power, than the
sage markings would have gone around Madara's own eyes.

That seems proof enough. Unless you want it spoonfed by some character saying ''If you have and can withstand Hashirama's cells, you have easier time to learn sage mode''. Not every info in the manga is spoonfed like that. Some things you can conclude logically.

Again where do I say senju cells?
You confuse me with someone else in this thread I think.
 

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I disagree here dude. Minato is the greatest genius ever

1- He can become a perfect host of the strongest Bijuu in an instant when it was considered impossible for most and required decades for Naruto to be able to

2- He can use every chakra types

3- His one-handed Bijuu extracting and sealing skills can be done in an instant when it required 3days for the entire akatsuki to extract Bijuus

4- Sense people countries away

5- Fastest ninja ever blitzing even Hokages

6- Achieved the highest chakra shape manipulation by creating Rasengan

7- Can create and master rasengan just by observing Tailed Beast Bijuudamas

8- Only one in the entire manga since Haku capable of one-handed handsigns

9- Great and skilful use of kage bunshin in conjunction with hiraishin impressing even its creator

10- Hax defensive teleportative and blocking barriers capable to contain even the strongest Bijuus

11- Developed his own hiraishin without help despite living in a complete different era than Tobirama, making it better and even creating useful variants

12- Learning hereditary Uzumaki specialised sealing techniques despite not possessing a known bloodline

I kno bogard but I disagree tho Minato is my 3rd fav
 

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Proof for what?
The fact that the sage markings are on the face of Hashirama, on Madara's chest, proves that
it is Hashirama's dna, that makes Madara's sage mode possible.
If Madara was at the lvl to be able to handle sage mode without Hashirama's power, than the
sage markings would have gone around Madara's own eyes.

That seems proof enough. Unless you want it spoonfed by some character saying ''If you have and can withstand Hashirama's cells, you have easier time to learn sage mode''. Not every info in the manga is spoonfed like that. Some things you can conclude logically.

Again where do I say senju cells?
You confuse me with someone else in this thread I think.

It's still Madara who controls SM without training, Hashi cells don't give you the ability to deal with SM automatically.

Maybe I confuse you, to much fanfiction arguements in this thread :/
 

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Itachi at 2? What ridiculous Itachi wank.

Hiruzen would get slaughtered by Kakashi, let alone Madara or Naruto.

Terrible list.
Go make yours and I don't like Itachi by far...but I had to do it
It makes her ultimate.

Edit: if Karin has chakra rods I wouldn't be surprised if she blitzed your fav neg diff:rolleyes:
Too bad she don't and akamaru neg diff her :rolleyes:
Tell me which manga facts im denying pls :)
That SM is easy to control
 

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It's still Madara who controls SM without training, Hashi cells don't give you the ability to deal with SM automatically.

Maybe I confuse you, to much fanfiction arguements in this thread :/
but the Hashi cells make it so much easier. That is the point.

Its not purely Madara's skill that is controlling sage energy. He has a much easier time controlling it, than people who dont have the cells of a sage mode user like Hashirama.
He has cells from Hashirama in his body, who are used to handle sage mode and around those cells the sage markings appeared. Meaning Madara requires Hashi's cells to control sage mode. He isnt skilled enough to do it alone (maybe if he trained for it or went to a curse seal path like Sasuke but Madara hasnt done that).
So calling madara skilled because he controls sage mode feels out of place to me, for mentioned reasons, as his skill is not good enough right now to do it without Hashi's cells.
 
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but the Hashi cells make it so much easier. That is the point.

Its not purely Madara's skill that is controlling sage energy. He has a much easier time controlling it, than people who dont have the cells of a sage mode user like Hashirama.
He has cells from Hashirama in his body, who are used to handle sage mode and around those cells the sage markings appeared. Meaning Madara requires Hashi's cells to control sage mode. He isnt skilled enough to do it alone (maybe if he trained for it or went to a curse seal path like Sasuke but Madara hasnt done that).
So calling madara skilled because he controls sage mode feels out of place to me, for mentioned reasons, as his skill is not good enough right now to do it without Hashi's cells.

Well, we are running in circles here:/, but anyway I'm off now, have a nice day/night where ever you at.

To bad I see only one retard here, which is you

The funny thing is you still have no arguments :erm:
 

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No Madara on a list of the greatest shinobi, means this thread is made by a fanboy. Nuff said.
 

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It's still Madara who controls SM without training, Hashi cells don't give you the ability to deal with SM automatically.

Maybe I confuse you, to much fanfiction arguements in this thread :/








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