Lets get ONE thing clear....Obito beat Madara, there is no doubt about that.

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

That is so true even with madaras flimsy plan he needed luck and other characters to get to where he is now.

 

[IamtheGodofUchihaforever]

It actually isn't cuz I proved you wrong with this about 10 minutes ago:

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to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, especially unfairly: a tearful plea designed to bias the jury.


You chose to ignore that, no surprise there since you ignored my thread which is why we're here in the first place, and carried on with your little tantrum disguised as petty attempts to embarrass me? Lol

2 to show partiality toward <I like romantic comedies more than action movies>
Synonyms care (for), favor, lean (toward or towards), like Lol

 

[The God of Wind]

Yea you are 100 percent right. Obito beat madara to the game, Madara had plot and luck on his side.

madara's Plot no jutsu:

Kabuto reviving him
Kabuto losing control control of his edo's/losing to itachi enabling madara to escape
Hashirama coming to the battlefield giving madara Sennin mode
Obito pre occupied with the Shinobi alliance
Obito not getting killed by kakashi after coming back from the other dimension giving madara the opportunity to be revived
Naruto's TNJ which lead to obito losing
Obito not killing him while In juubito state

Obito won the entire fight, Madara was lucky everything came together for him.

Thanks bro, I wanted to make sure that everyone(well, the majority anyway) understood that, because that IS what happened and there is no denying it.

Whats wrong with u?

Huh?

That is so true even with madaras flimsy plan he needed luck and other characters to get to where he is now.

He sure did, and Obito worked every moment of his life for it.

 

[Ovan]

Madara not defeated till he is sent back to the land of the dead.

 

[Smd]

i guess its cool to ignore manga facts when you dont to apply them in you logic.


but i guess thats ok for some of you.

 

[damon hunt]

with all honesty a 1 on 1 ems madara vs ms obito obito would rape him due to kamui i just don't see madara having a counter for that

 

[Jon Snow.]

Whatever you say...iSpeak The Truth.

 

[The God of Wind]

i guess its cool to ignore manga facts when you dont to apply them in you logic.


but i guess thats ok for some of you.

Madara did save Obito's life for his own ends there is no denying that either. But the competition between them started when Madara was revived by Kabuto.

They both had the same goal but neither of them wanted to yield to the other.

Each of them wanted to bring the world into the Genjutsu themselvesand they had to become the Jubbi's vessel in order to do that, Obito succeeded at that before Madara did, in spite of all the hindrances in Obito's path.

Hell, Obito fought through the Juubi's AND Madara's control with sheer will power. Madara was at his mercy.

Had it not been for Naruto, things would have ended differently for Madara.

 

[The God of Wind]

Whatever you say...iSpeak The Truth.

lmao I can't believe some people still hold on to that notion even know. wow.............but I guess it makes sense. I miss him too.

 

[Smd]

Madara did save Obito's life for his own ends there is no denying that either. But the competition between them started when Madara was revived by Kabuto.

They both had the same goal but neither of them wanted to yield to the other.

Each of them wanted to bring the world into the Genjutsu themselvesand they had to become the Jubbi's vessel in order to do that, Obito succeeded at that before Madara did, in spite of all the hindrances in Obito's path.

Hell, Obito fought through the Juubi's AND Madara's control with sheer will power. Madara was at his mercy.

Had it not been for Naruto, things would have ended differently for Madara.

so its ok to ignore the fact that obito wouldnt have had any of that had madara not save his life at the age of 12-13.

thats fanboy logic at its highest

 

[Flawž]

so its ok to ignore the fact that obito wouldnt have had any of that had madara not save his life at the age of 12-13.

thats fanboy logic at its highest

Yes, we all know Madara saved 13 year old obito. Why do you keep repeating the same shit over again?

 

[End of Days]

Madara was playing and trolling around, he planned to betray obito since the start

If it weren't for kabuto reviving madara, madara would still be dust and black zetsu cant handle or force a full power obito to revive madara

 

[IamtheGodofUchihaforever]

I know you've been right this whole time... Im pretty stupid, I bow down to you sir.

Alright you don't have to take it that far man Lol

 

[the last shinobi]

Madara just got lucky that Naruto defeated Obit and Hashirama was revived for him to steal his sm. Madara had nothing to do with these two situations. He just got lucky. That was the O.P's point.

If you want to look at it like that, the reason why naruto got so strong was because of Madara's revival the 9 tails was not friendly with naruto until the madara was revived and tried to summon the 9 tails, since then he's been giving him what ever he needs so he did have to got back to madara...in the end it worked in madara's favor obito had the upper hand for like 7 mangas then it was back to the plan


all madara

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[-immortal-]

Madara was a troll

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madara owns obito anyday son

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

I wasn't trying to say that Obito beat Madara in a fight or if one was stronger than the other. I'm only trying to prove that Obito bested Madara and almost succeeded in bringing his plans to fruition, if it wasn't for Naruto, Madara would be a sitting duck like he had been the whole time Obito had the Six Path powers.

yea and if minato had not shown up obito would never have gained control again since he lost control and when he saw minato face he saw Rin/flashback

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

More like, Obito almost beat Madara, and we can assume he would have if not for Naruto and co.

As to the purpose of bringing awareness, good job, I agree edo tensei Madara NEEDED Obito and was at his mercy. Jink Obito was so powerfull, that without TNJ he would/could have easily kept Madara in check.In a sense Obito gained the potential to "beat" Madara after being a juubi jink ( because while Madara needed him, I believe that if push came to shove, Madara could have got his way with pre juubi Obito)

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Thats why Obito is the one dying and Madara is now a GOD right?

 

[iRefleX]

smh...madara would of been able to weaken obito aswell, it just that naruto did it for him lul...

 

[Flawž]

smh...madara would of been able to weaken obito aswell, it just that naruto did it for him lul...

No, Madara would of died instantly trying to go up against Juubito.

Naruto didn't defat obito pysically, He defeated obito mentally, (TNJ). Madara would die in an instant.