[VS] Tobirama vs MS Sasuke

[Tobby17]

Tobirama sends that clown back to Konoha 11

 

[Owarij]

Tobirama High dificulty

 

[Penguin]

Hebi Sasuke wins, let alone MS Sasuke

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For real?

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[sharingansennin]

How would he realize Tobirama possesses FTG? If Tobirama uses FTG, it will most likely be once he tags Sasuke or uses Hiraishingiri, in which case Sasuke will either be close to dead or dead?

3t sharingan precognition allows you to see the jutsu and react faster than the user (i.e. Kakashi in multiple occasions he would realize this before Tobirama does and the speed is super close)

 

[Penguin]

3t sharingan precognition allows you to see the jutsu and react faster than the user (i.e. Kakashi in multiple occasions he would realize this before Tobirama does and the speed is super close)

Quit trolling. :|

 

[slimreaper]

sasuke takes it with genjutsu

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this would be a kill shit on tobirama

sasuke's genjutsu is heavily underrated

 

[Penguin]

sasuke takes it with genjutsu

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this would be a kill shit on tobirama

sasuke's genjutsu is heavily underrated

Kage Bunshins are a good counter.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama would knock the Uchiha out of Sasuke. Tobirama would probably kill him 3 times before Sasuke decides to use Amaterasu or Susanoo.

 

[slimreaper]

Kage Bunshins are a good counter.

so its a 50 50 chance that sasuke lands genjutsu. if it doesn't work he tries again. what's hard about that?

 

[Owarij]

Sasuke isn't landing a hit on Tobirama unfortunately, he's like a super counter for Uchihas, that coupled with his experience in fighting against uchiha, and the fact that he has seen his amaterasu and Sussano in action makes this winner clear cut imo.....

Thing is, Tobirama probably can't land a hit on Sasuke either. What he can do however is tire him out, considering Sasuke is going to have to keep Susanno up permanently if he wants to survive ... Scattering the battlefield with marked kunai, creating about 3 shadow clones, and using his Sensor skills to fight without making eye contact pretty much makes Sasuke untouchable for just about anything Sasuke can dish out

 

[blazekev90]

Sasuke isn't landing a hit on Tobirama unfortunately, he's like a super counter for Uchihas, that coupled with his experience in fighting against uchiha, and the fact that he has seen his amaterasu and Sussano in action makes this winner clear cut imo.....

Thing is, Tobirama probably can't land a hit on Sasuke either. What he can do however is tire him out, considering Sasuke is going to have to keep Susanno up permanently if he wants to survive ... Scattering the battlefield with marked kunai, creating about 3 shadow clones, and using his Sensor skills to fight without making eye contact pretty much makes Sasuke untouchable for just about anything Sasuke can dish out

It depends if Tobimari pushes Sasuke to the point of him being weary in the fight to begin with. Stating Sasuke wouldn't land a hit on him...i say otherwise. While his reaction is creditable, i don't recall him dodging anyone's attacks with speed such as Sasukes, considering the fact he'll be able to read his movements.

Also, Sasuke is aware of ftg, which would be the issue against Tobirama. Scattering kunia? I only remember one being used and are chidori variations not considered or his hawk summoning?

SB: @ OP, yes i believe Hebi Sasuke could defeat Tobimari

 

[Gold Lightning]

Sasuke isn't landing a hit on Tobirama unfortunately, he's like a super counter for Uchihas, that coupled with his experience in fighting against uchiha, and the fact that he has seen his amaterasu and Sussano in action makes this winner clear cut imo.....

Thing is, Tobirama probably can't land a hit on Sasuke either. What he can do however is tire him out, considering Sasuke is going to have to keep Susanno up permanently if he wants to survive ... Scattering the battlefield with marked kunai, creating about 3 shadow clones, and using his Sensor skills to fight without making eye contact pretty much makes Sasuke untouchable for just about anything Sasuke can dish out

Since when has Tobirama EVER scattered kunai around the battlefield?

 

[Owarij]

Since when has Tobirama EVER scattered kunai around the battlefield?

he used a marked kunai, why wouldn't he be able to do it?

It depends if Tobimari pushes Sasuke to the point of him being weary in the fight to begin with. Stating Sasuke wouldn't land a hit on him...i say otherwise. While his reaction is creditable, i don't recall him dodging anyone's attacks with speed such as Sasukes,

Reaction? Tobirama is a sensor, and has ftg... those two things alone means he isn't getting hit by amaterasu or a susanno arrow

and those are his fastest attacks

If he goes up in the air with a half he's getting cut down with pressurized water

 

[Penguin]

Since when has Tobirama EVER scattered kunai around the battlefield?

What is stopping him?

It depends if Tobimari pushes Sasuke to the point of him being weary in the fight to begin with. Stating Sasuke wouldn't land a hit on him...i say otherwise. While his reaction is creditable, i don't recall him dodging anyone's attacks with speed such as Sasukes, considering the fact he'll be able to read his movements.

Also, Sasuke is aware of ftg, which would be the issue against Tobirama. Scattering kunia? I only remember one being used and are chidori variations not considered or his hawk summoning?

SB: @ OP, yes i believe Hebi Sasuke could defeat Tobimari

Lmao.

 

[blazekev90]

he used a marked kunai, why wouldn't he be able to do it?



Reaction? Tobirama is a sensor, and has ftg... those two things alone means he isn't getting hit by amaterasu or a susanno arrow

and those are his fastest attacks

If he goes up in the air with a half he's getting cut down with pressurized water

I wasn't referring to amaterasu being countered, i was referring to Sasuke being able land a blow in hand-to-hand combat.

As far as your statement, yes sensing will allow Tobiamara to predict its use but I'm questioning whether he'll be capable of throwing a kunia fast enough to avoid amaterasu. The first it's used, i see him possibly doing this considering the preparation. However, continuously throughout the fight i don't see it happening.

SB: he's only known for having one kunia at his disposal

Pressurized water>amaterasu? As far as speed?

 

[Owarij]

SB: he's only known for having one kunia at his disposal

Why must you go to that length to win arguments?

Regardless, Tobirama can make 3 - 4 clones, and put the hirashin seal on each one, those clones then spread around Sasuke, maybe even tagging some of the sorrounding area. not to mention by making clones he has duplicated his kunai (that's just how this manga works) ...

In any case, you have a Tobirama with several locational options to FTG towards in case Sasuke tries to attack him...And considering each clone can utilize FTG, this match is a stalemate...

As I said before, if Sasuke tries to go on his hawk, it leaves him vunerable to Suiryudan's and his pressurized water shots

 

[Gold Lightning]

What is stopping him?

The same thing that stops Sasuke from using shadow clones in a fight. It's not his style, he doesn't fight that way.

Tobirama doesn't have prepped kunai, neither does he fight that way. You don't even know how many kunai he carries or how many he marks. I've only ever seen him do 1 at a time. I've seen Minato throw 20 + marked kunai at once, that's his feat and his fighting style. Just because someone uses the same technique, doesn't mean you apply the same fighting style. We saw how he fights against Madara, mainly surprise attacks. If that was Minato, he would have scattered his kunai around Madara. Why? Because that's his style.

Honestly all these hypothetical crap and speculations piss me off. Why can't people just stick to feats. I've only ever seen Tobirama wield one kunai/sword at a time.

Why must you go to that length to win arguments?

Regardless, Tobirama can make 3 - 4 clones, and put the hirashin seal on each one, those clones then spread around Sasuke, maybe even tagging some of the sorrounding area. not to mention by making clones he has duplicated his kunai (that's just how this manga works) ...

In any case, you have a Tobirama with several locational options to FTG towards in case Sasuke tries to attack him...And considering each clone can utilize FTG, this match is a stalemate...

As I said before, if Sasuke tries to go on his hawk, it leaves him vunerable to Suiryudan's and his pressurized water shots

It's not going to lengths, it's going by feats and staying in character.

Tobirama FTG with clones is too slow. He wouldn't use it, he's better off as just 1. Unless he doesn't plan on using FTG, he isn't going to tag his own clones.

 

[KidGamer65]

SB: he's only known for having one kunia at his disposal

Smh...can people not use their brains anymore? Do you really think that any ninja in this manga worth their salt, let alone Tobirama, would only carry around 1 Kunai? 1 sole Kunai? lmao, not sure if serious. Ninja are equipped with plenty of Kunai the moment they become Genin yet Tobirama only has 1.........

Lol Think pal. Think.

 

[Penguin]

The same thing that stops Sasuke from using shadow clones in a fight. It's not his style, he doesn't fight that way.

Tobirama doesn't have prepped kunai, neither does he fight that way. You don't even know how many kunai he carries or how many he marks. I've only ever seen him do 1 at a time. I've seen Minato throw 20 + marked kunai at once, that's his feat and his fighting style. Just because someone uses the same technique, doesn't mean you apply the same fighting style. We saw how he fights against Madara, mainly surprise attacks. If that was Minato, he would have scattered his kunai around Madara. Why? Because that's his style.

Honestly all these hypothetical crap and speculations piss me off. Why can't people just stick to feats. I've only ever seen Tobirama wield one kunai/sword at a time.




It's not going to lengths, it's going by feats and staying in character.

Tobirama FTG with clones is too slow. He wouldn't use it, he's better off as just 1. Unless he doesn't plan on using FTG, he isn't going to tag his own clones.

If you think he has one kunai, it is your problem.

It was too slow for Rikudobito who was the best sensor, best reaction feats, and best speed in the manga. Rikudobito >>>>>>> EMS Sasuke.

 

[blazekev90]

Why must you go to that length to win arguments?

Regardless, Tobirama can make 3 - 4 clones, and put the hirashin seal on each one, those clones then spread around Sasuke, maybe even tagging some of the sorrounding area. not to mention by making clones he has duplicated his kunai (that's just how this manga works) ...

In any case, you have a Tobirama with several locational options to FTG towards in case Sasuke tries to attack him...And considering each clone can utilize FTG, this match is a stalemate...

As I said before, if Sasuke tries to go on his hawk, it leaves him vunerable to Suiryudan's and his pressurized water shots

Yes, I'm aware of the 3-4 kunia used by each clone performed. Something that sasuke would easily counter. Do you really believe Sasuke would be unable to react to single kunia being thrown at him, considering how he dealt with Itachi's use of multiple kunia? Lol

Tagging the environment is possible, but also subjective. Arrows have been shown to destroy surrounding areas, hence possibly eliminating that concern.

Chidori counters his suiton jutsu.

What length do i go?? I'm just stating what's been shown. He has a sinlge kunia, each clone would have a sinlge kunia.