Jinchuriki can't be ranked

[iNotorious]

IMO the only thing I exclude when ranking characters is Edo Tensei.
Naruto had to train to control Kurama's power. Besides, I think so long as you are able to use a power, it is considered yours; they're ninja, they're not supposed to play fair. However, from when it's help from another ninja (see Edo Tensei) it should not be counted.

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You nailed it my friend.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

EMS aren't conscious, Biju are. They're a separate entity entirely that aids Jinchuriki during fights.

 

[Prince Charles]

Same can be said about kurama, he has been in the uzumaki family since mito. So naruto has every right to it.

//Solo'd

Lol what? just stop.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

If it was just Naruto draining Kyubii's power and it was a purely antagonisic relationship, then sure. But the Kyubii has an interest in Naruto's wellbeing because his is tied to it. So it's not antagonistic in that sense. The Kyubii even takes control of Naruto at various points when he's not good enough to finish the job. Think the Orochimaru fight.

 

[iNotorious]

Naruto when he was 9 tails jinchuuriki, most of the uchiha fanboys go wild making threads that kurama is unfair and it's cheap.

Madara becomes ten tails jinchuuriki, then it's legit?

I dunno what's going on.

 

[Anonn]

But the fact that Kurama is a separate being who aids Naruto during the fights is important. Sasuke, Kakashi, etc. don't receive help from their eye's original owners during the fight. They don't get shittons of extra chakra, and they don't get a very experienced ancient entity protecting them when things go wrong for them.

And nobody is contesting that Sasuke needs help from time to time. He's not a "solo king". Sasuke was only being used earlier as an example. He's not part of the original discussion.

People added him in the discussion so I am replying to it.

Kakashi got his sharingan from Obito so he isn't counted in this one.

Sasuke got all the powers from itachi, without itachi he wouldn't have EMS, Susano'o, amaterasu.

Lol what? just stop.

yes you should stop. you are making no sense, you just want logic to benefit for your own but when someone points you out on the obvious we have to stop?. Don't go in discussions if you can't handle them.

 

[Flakez]

Not everyone can be a jin. The fact that you can tame the beast and use it's power makes it your own. People need to deal with this.

 

[Champ]

Sasuke needs Jugo for sage chakra, he needed itachi to not go blind. He needed Orochimaru for more power.

//Solo'd

What is this? The Champ can never be solo'd. Naruto got Sage mode from Pa, the Kyuubi from his father. Needed kakashi for Rasenshuriken. Fodder can't do anything on his own

 

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But the fact that Kurama is a separate being who aids Naruto during the fights is important. Sasuke, Kakashi, etc. don't receive help from their eye's original owners during the fight. They don't get shittons of extra chakra, and they don't get a very experienced ancient entity protecting them when things go wrong for them.

And nobody is contesting that Sasuke needs help from time to time. He's not a "solo king". Sasuke was only being used earlier as an example. He's not part of the original discussion.

how was kurama helping naruto before the war arc? right he wasn't because he hated him.
you're just butthurt because naruto is the only jin he seem to be mentioning but not madara and obito would have the ten tails sealed in them.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

People added him in the discussion so I am replying to it.

Kakashi got his sharingan from Obito so he isn't counted in this one.

Sasuke got all the powers from itachi, without itachi he wouldn't have EMS, Susano'o, amaterasu.



yes you should stop. you are making no sense, you just want logic to benefit for your own but when someone points you out on the obvious we have to stop?. Don't go in discussions if you can't handle them.

And Kakashi only has Kamui and his 1000+ jutsu because of the Sharingan. It's impossible for any character to exist in a vacum. Every one has help from another at some point. But my point is that during a fight, most character are on their own merits. They don't have a giant ass chakra pool to fall back on and they don't have an anceint being with a hell of a lot of experience and wisdom to fall back on. Jinchuriki do. They can give up their body and let someone else pilot for a while. It's different.

 

[Prince Charles]

yes you should stop. you are making no sense, you just want logic to benefit for your own but when someone points you out on the obvious we have to stop?. Don't go in discussions if you can't handle them.

Lol if you say so. You're wrong either way but I'll just leave it here.

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

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You nailed it my friend.

Cheers buddy 8)

 

[iNotorious]

Not everyone can be a jin. The fact that you can tame the beast and use it's power makes it your own. People need to deal with this.

Just wow and that sig

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[Flakez]

What is this? The Champ can never be solo'd. Naruto got Sage mode from Pa, the Kyuubi from his father. Needed kakashi for Rasenshuriken. Fodder can't do anything on his own

@bold Are you for real here? Naruto trained for sage mode just like Jirayia. You don't simply give someone sage mode. But hey you are Sasuke fan so it can be expected.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

how was kurama helping naruto before the war arc? right he wasn't because he hated him.
you're just butthurt because naruto is the only jin he seem to be mentioning but not madara and obito would have the ten tails sealed in them.

The Orochimaru fight, the Pain fight, the Sasuke fight, etc. Whenever he got his tails (and he wouldnt' have lived without them because he's a reckless idiot) that was the 9 tailed fox keeping him alive. And in the Orochimaru and Pain fights, the Nine-Tails took control and saved his live.

 

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What is this? The Champ can never be solo'd. Naruto got Sage mode from Pa, the Kyuubi from his father. Needed kakashi for Rasenshuriken. Fodder can't do anything on his own

By this logic sasuke is even worst Curse mark from orochimaru , needed kakashi for chidori and drugs from kabuto emo can't help himself

 

[Anonn]

What is this? The Champ can never be solo'd. Naruto got Sage mode from Pa, the Kyuubi from his father. Needed kakashi for Rasenshuriken. Fodder can't do anything on his own

Yet I solo'd you.

He didn't got sage from pa at all, He gathered/learned/mastered sage mode on his own. He got Training from pa, that is something completely else. As said above, Kurama has been in uzumaki family for a long time, but I can't debate with that.

Kakashi Trained Naruto to further evolve Rasengan.

Sasuke Freebie's: Susano'o, Itachi's eyes (Itachi had aids so he would die anyway), Amaterasu, Curse seal

He only Trained for chidori.

 

[chintu234]

What is this? The Champ can never be solo'd. Naruto got Sage mode from Pa, the Kyuubi from his father. Needed kakashi for Rasenshuriken. Fodder can't do anything on his own

same with sasuke needed oro for power and his curse seal
needed kakashi to teach him chidori
itachi helped him to gain ms and then latter in the series sasuke used itachi's eyes for gaining ems

 

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The Orochimaru fight, the Pain fight, the Sasuke fight, etc. Whenever he got his tails (and he wouldnt' have lived without them because he's a reckless idiot) that was the 9 tailed fox keeping him alive. And in the Orochimaru and Pain fights, the Nine-Tails took control and saved his live.

Ohhh Pain fight an tell me what path of pein got destroyed by kyuubi? none so doesn't that mean all 6 got killed by naruto ? yup so just shut up please or are you forgetting that sasuke used orochimaru's power in that fight?

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

@bold Are you for real here? Naruto trained for sage mode just like Jirayia. You don't simply give someone sage mode. But hey you are Sasuke fan so it can be expected.

But he can only use it to the degree he can because of the endless pool of chakra that the Kyubii provides. And even then, he can hardly use it.
And he didn't really work that much for it. I mean Jirayia worked his whole life to do it, but Naruto got it in what, days? And again, only because of his endless chakra.