Jinchuriki can't be ranked

[Meee]

I wouldn't even bother to rate the verse wayy too much shit like that (Bijuus, Summons, Edos, Rinnegan Paths etc)

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

You're right. But those eyes are his. They don't have a separate consciousness.

 

[Prince Charles]

Sasuke would be nothing without his eyes.

eyes > Chidori > Susano'o (wait madara defined that) > Amaterasu > Genjutsu (wait he sucks in that)

I mean his eye power is part of his clan kkg, you can't compare his eye socket to a separate chakra beast entity.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yeah but do you have to train them right? Didn't naruto train to control kurama?

That's not the point. Even if you have to train to control both, it's not the same concept. Dojutsu are born with, Jinchuriki are given.

If you really wanna compare Dojutsu to something of Jinchuriki, then it'd be their large chakra sources that they train to use efficiently.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

It was a phase.

 

[Champ]

You right Infinite. They have to double team a person to have a chance at winning.

 

[dark legion]

Seeing as how most Dojutsu users have their eyes at birth, hardwired into their DNA, and only need to awaken it, but Jinchuriki are an external force placed within someone, they are not equivalent.

yah: what about EMS--- this isn't birth power.. half of EMS isn't yours , you 'll have to take from others... ( even EMS users cant be ranked , by this )

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

But eyes don't have separate mind. They can't say "Hey, you're unconscious right now. I think I'll take over the body and drive it past any limits you could ever and pound a Sanin into the ground." The tailed beasts can.

 

[Prince Charles]

yah: what about EMS--- this isn't birth power.. half of EMS isn't yours , you 'll have to take from others... ( even EMS users cant be ranked , by this )

Ems is still part of his clans kkg, he has every right to it.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

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[iNotorious]

Sage > juubi come at me

Oh i'm coming at you with a knife and this
[video=youtube;iP-jYiuDD9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP-jYiuDD9g[/video]

That's not the point. Even if you have to train to control both, it's not the same concept. Dojutsu are born with, Jinchuriki are given.

If you really wanna compare Dojutsu to something of Jinchuriki, then it'd be their large chakra sources that they train to use efficiently.

And from where those dojutsus come from?

 

[Punk Hazard]

yah: what about EMS--- this isn't birth power.. half of EMS isn't yours , you 'll have to take from others... ( even EMS users cant be ranked , by this )

EMS can be compared. I'm talking about Tomoe to Mangekyo.

Oh i'm coming at you with a knife and this
[video=youtube;iP-jYiuDD9g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP-jYiuDD9g[/video]



And from where those dojutsus come from?

What exactly is your point?

 

[Anonn]

Ems is still part of his clans kkg, he has every right to it.

Same can be said about kurama, he has been in the uzumaki family since mito. So naruto has every right to it.

//Solo'd

You right Infinite. They have to double team a person to have a chance at winning.

Sasuke needs Jugo for sage chakra, he needed itachi to not go blind. He needed Orochimaru for more power.

//Solo'd

 

[chintu234]

He can harldy keep it up. He can't use more than 3 shadow clones in sage mode and that's WITH the 9 tail's chakra.

thats wrong naruto could use alot more shadow clones in sage mode and can stay longer in that mode if kurama was not sealed in his body
he would use sage mode to its full potential if u read the chap where naruto tries to take control over kurama he used lots of clones in his sage mode
and as for sasuke he is also useless and should not be used in rankings cause he he took his bro's eyes same goes for madara

 

[iNotorious]

Sage > juubi come at me

EMS can be compared. I'm talking about Tomoe to Mangekyo.



What exactly is your point?

Doujutsu came from a jinchuuriki right? (S06P)?

 

[take it easy]

But I'm not delusional. I admitted it in the old days when Naruto was way stronger than Sasuke. But now Naruto can't do anything without the Kybuii. If he couldn't spam one giant jutsu after the other with someone else's chakra, what could he do?

sage mode>>>>>>>>>>>>>fodderuke without eyes

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

IMO the only thing I exclude when ranking characters is Edo Tensei.
Naruto had to train to control Kurama's power. Besides, I think so long as you are able to use a power, it is considered yours; they're ninja, they're not supposed to play fair. However, from when it's help from another ninja (see Edo Tensei) it should not be counted.

 

[-Spoiler-]

That's not the point. Even if you have to train to control both, it's not the same concept. Dojutsu are born with, Jinchuriki are given.

If you really wanna compare Dojutsu to something of Jinchuriki, then it'd be their large chakra sources that they train to use efficiently.

EMS is given/transplanted so yeah its kinda the same thing :yeah:, btw have you not notice how eyeballs have been passed around since pein arc? its my eyes ,no its my eyes, "let me go collect my other eye" :|

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

Same can be said about kurama, he has been in the uzumaki family since mito. So naruto has every right to it.

//Solo'd


Sasuke needs Jugo for sage chakra, he needed itachi to not go blind. He needed Orochimaru for more power.

//Solo'd

But the fact that Kurama is a separate being who aids Naruto during the fights is important. Sasuke, Kakashi, etc. don't receive help from their eye's original owners during the fight. They don't get shittons of extra chakra, and they don't get a very experienced ancient entity protecting them when things go wrong for them.

And nobody is contesting that Sasuke needs help from time to time. He's not a "solo king". Sasuke was only being used earlier as an example. He's not part of the original discussion.

 

[chintu234]

Same can be said about kurama, he has been in the uzumaki family since mito. So naruto has every right to it.

//Solo'd



Sasuke needs Jugo for sage chakra, he needed itachi to not go blind. He needed Orochimaru for more power.

//Solo'd

+ rep..........
this guy/girl soloed the thread.