[Theory] Rikūdo Sennin's Master Plan

[mikeeozua]

Great read! I never thought about Kaguya being the Reaper, you seriously know your stuff!

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Good read, good read like always,

 

[Sir Blades]

Good thread, I like the connection of souls to the stone tablet. It is interesting how Hagoromo left the tablet to the Uchiha ancestor and not the brother who wanted peace through love. I guess it was a insurance for the uchihas, but i do think he didn't see well on to the future and predict the cataclysm that has become the Narutoverse.

 

[phantomlord22]

I have always wondered why the Sage would leave the Tablet to the Uchihas despite the Curse of Hatred and not choosing their ancestor as his successor, didn't the Sage anticipate that one of the Uchihas will try to use the knowledge in the Tablet for wrong reasons like unsealing the Juubi and placing the world in eternal genjutsu, was the Sage really that short-sighted? And why exactly is the Tablet necessary to perform RDS unseal with the Shinigami Mask.

I had to watch Mulan with my young cousin to realize what the Uchiha Tablet actually is

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It's a Spirit Tablet, it houses the spirits of your ancestors, and who is the ancestor in this case? Kaguya/Reaper (that's why RDS Unseal = Mask + Tablet )

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Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demoness who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

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The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

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Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is most probably Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.

But there lies the anomaly: Why would the Sage write the info. on his mom, the Shinjū, Jūbi, Rinnegan,etc. on a tablet that's supposed to venerate Kaguya? (because the Spirit Tablets are used to venerate the spirit)

It is because Hagoromo's act of veneration is actually saving his mother from the Death God curse, the Sage wanted the Jūbi to be revived one day so that humanity can befriend it and free Kaguya from the curse, but for humanity to befriend Jūbi, they have to mend their ways first so he sealed the Gedo Mazo in the Moon, split the chakra into the Bijūs, etc to give time for humanity to get their act together when the Jūbi returns, Hagoromo anticipated that the curse of hatred would opt one of the Elder Son's descendants to try and revive Jūbi, Hagoromo wanted the Jūbi to return so it can release Kaguya from her curse, he expects the Shinobi world and Naruto to make peace with the Jūbi one day.

So it wasn't a lack of foresight nor was it a lapse in Judgment in the Sage's part that he left the Tablet to the Uchihas who followed the way of hatred, he intended all of this to happen.

Plot-wise I think it was necessary for Madara to become Juubi's Jin to make the Shinju's Flower Bloom, that's the only purpose of why he became Juubi's Jin after Obito, the Shinju's Lotus Flower must bloom.

The Lotus is the flower of rebirth in Buddhism:

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In Naruto it's the mirror opposite: The Shinju's lotus shall bloom under the moonlight ( a real lotus blooms at sunlight) The Demonic Statue sitting in a Lotus (Buddha sits on a Lotus)

That picture I showed you depicts being reborn inside a Lotus in the Pure Land, in Naruto it's the opposite, the material world is the Impure Land (hence the name of Edo Tensei: Summon Impure World resurrection) if the Juubi is going to be reborn, it's most probably thought the Flower. So probably even Madara himself will be surprised that the Flower contains more than the Eye, but the reborn/new One-Eyed God itself.

And if we think about it: Why introduce the Shinju backstory of how humanity stole the Tree's power if the author does not intend to make a resolution of this past transgression? moral didacticism entails the Shinju to assume a main role in seeking reparations for the sins of the past. If Madara is the end-all of the Manga then there would be no reason in introducing this plot point.

well! It's a long shot! but still it's awesome!

I think kishi may use this Idea If he would ever read this by any chance...

good job

 

[The Western Wheel]

Like I mentioned before, Kishi should have gone looking for a better coherent writer. I doubt it will happen like that. Too awesome!

 

[Meowazziel]

So he basically sort of sacraficed the elder son/his descendants by misleading them to revive Juubi with their curse of hatred (them being under the impression that it is a path to power with the mugen tsukuyomi, when it isnt), so that the younger son/his descendants can befriend Juubi, save the sage's mother and create peace? Well not all descendants of the elder son, seeing how Sasuke follows a different path, but still.

Thanked.
Would rep if I could (still need to spread).

 

[Mr Hiru]

I liked the read, it refreshed my perspectives about the possible outcome of the manga.

I have a question...

If the RDS state is a side effect of the fruit, when could Hagoromo be born from Kaguya?

Also, good job about linking the Elder Son lineage with the Bijuu. No matter how you see it, Kurama really hated the Uchihas.

 

[Meowazziel]

I liked the read, it refreshed my perspectives about the possible outcome of the manga.

I have a question...

If the RDS state is a side effect of the fruit, when could Hagoromo be born from Kaguya?

Also, good job about linking the Elder Son lineage with the Bijuu. No matter how you see it, Kurama really hated the Uchihas.

Maybe you turn into the RDS when you die and not right after eating the fruit.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Maybe you turn into the RDS when you die and not right after eating the fruit.

Totally makes sense. If the fruit amplified the spiritual and physical energy of the one that eats it, maybe you turn into a somewhat physical form of spirit after dying.

 

[NineSNS]

Great read and fits with the Sage's words to the 9 tailed beasts before his death. Do you suppose the "true strength" the Sage spoke of was the power of forgiveness?

 

[D R E X]

impressive as always , my Lord
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[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Ψ The Legendary Sannin/Trinity Of NB: Sir Derp, Dr.Proof, and Time Lord Ψ =D

Sir Derp Represents Inspiration/Mythologies
The Doctor ---> Logic/Analysis
Time Lord = Imagination/Predictions

Although we are not limited to any of each, as I love Analysis and inspirational theories, and Sir Derp has an excellent Imagination

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

So he basically sort of sacraficed the elder son/his descendants by misleading them to revive Juubi with their curse of hatred (them being under the impression that it is a path to power with the mugen tsukuyomi, when it isnt), so that the younger son/his descendants can befriend Juubi, save the sage's mother and create peace? Well not all descendants of the elder son, seeing how Sasuke follows a different path, but still.

Thanked.
Would rep if I could (still need to spread).

Some sacrifices must be made in order to achieve the greater good (like Itachi saving Konoha by destroying his clan), but ultimately it boils down to free will, it is Sasuke who embodies the redemptive element of the Uchiha line by overcoming hatred.

 

[Flawž]

Pretty much what i think will happen, Very plausible, specially with the connections between RDS and the uchiha Tablet.

Great theory.

 

[Itachi The Solo King]

nice theory as always derpito

 

[From the Dark Spire]

That is so badass! As usual, you do not disappoint. Thank you for this well-constructed thread.... Also, that is a very interesting concept that Kaguya could be the reaper. They do actually share some common qualities.. Both have horns, both have long white hair, both wear some sort of ceremonial white robes... It's interesting to think about.

 

[Senju Bean]

Great theory. What's your take on the mechanism by which Kayuga got cursed?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Great theory. What's your take on the mechanism by which Kayuga got cursed?

It is difficult to say, however, if I was to make an intelligent guess, I'm assuming she actually killed/sacrifice herself to aid her son in fighting the Juubi, but like Eve who was cursed with mortality/death from eating the forbidden fruit, in Kaguya's case, she was cursed with immortality in an accursed form which is the Reaper, and that only the hub of the wheel of death and rebirth (Samsara) which is the Juubi, could set her free.

The Reaper's blade is a Tantō, which is the blade of choice for Jigai, the female form of Sepukku or ritual suicide

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The act of the Reaper slicing its belly to release the souls of the Hokages, is to me, a subtle hint concerning the manner of her death.

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[Minator93]

The theory itself is nice work! But I was wondering about what Sage told to the Bijjus. About how 1-day all of them would become 1 and lead to right path

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And what Kurama said about Juubi's complete revival = end of the world.

Where does that fit in?

 

[Senju Bean]

It is difficult to say, however, if I was to make an intelligent guess, I'm assuming she actually killed/sacrifice herself to aid her son in fighting the Juubi, but like Eve who was cursed with mortality/death from eating the forbidden fruit, in Kaguya's case, she was cursed with immortality in an accursed form which is the Reaper, and that only the hub of the wheel of death and rebirth (Samsara) which is the Juubi, could set her free.

The Reaper's blade is a Tantō, which is the blade of choice for Jigai, the female form of Sepukku or ritual suicide

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The act of the Reaper slicing its belly to release the souls of the Hokages, is to me, a subtle hint concerning the manner of her death.

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Ah yes, makes perfect sense. Perhaps there was something that she needed to release that would hinder the Juubi. Something dangerous trapped within her? A soul perhaps?