Questionable Defeats/Fights In Naruto

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Thanks haha. Yeah it really was though, Rock Lee was at Jonin level at that point. If you liked that however, you may want to take a look at what I'm posting here below. Spoiler for off-topicness
No really though this is off topic lol, basically some logical Rock Lee wank xD

One thing. Using the 8th gate means certain death. You can't train your body to cope with it.

Here is the reason, if you train you body to handle more power, you are also increasing the maximum power that you have and the 8th gate releases it all. So no matter how much you train your body the power released by the 8th gate will destroy it.
 

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Mifune would stalemate the 3 Sanin in their younger days also ;p.

And it was a stalemate between hanzo the sanin also.
 

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One thing. Using the 8th gate means certain death. You can't train your body to cope with it.

Here is the reason, if you train you body to handle more power, you are also increasing the maximum power that you have and the 8th gate releases it all. So no matter how much you train your body the power released by the 8th gate will destroy it.

By complete coincidence, the final paragraph in the last spoiler in the thread in my signature (inception lol) covers that specifically, and with more evidence. You may want to check it out :)
 

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By complete coincidence, the final paragraph in the last spoiler in the thread in my signature (inception lol) covers that specifically, and with more evidence. You may want to check it out :)

All I saw was that you said he should be able to use the gates easily. I didn't see any evidence that the 8th gate wouldn't kill him.
 

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All I saw was that you said he should be able to use the gates easily. I didn't see any evidence that the 8th gate wouldn't kill him.

That was an opinionated... well opinion, and I stand by it though not as a mangafact. But if a kid worse than an average academy student can go from that state in ~1.5 years to devastating levels of power and skill, then in 3 years of more intense unrelenting training in addition to a thing called puberty (an excellent power-up for someone who solely uses taijutsu), it makes plenty of sense he could do something at that level. Though it is still conjecture.
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(Once more, the last paragraph in the last spoiller in the OP in the thread in my signature discusses how one could live through the 8th gate in more detail, not from Rock Lee's standpoint but from a objective NarutoVerse standpoint),
 

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That was an opinionated... well opinion, and I stand by it though not as a mangafact. But if a kid worse than an average academy student can go from that state in ~1.5 years to devastating levels of power and skill, then in 3 years of more intense unrelenting training in addition to a thing called puberty (an excellent power-up for someone who solely uses taijutsu), it makes plenty of sense he could do something at that level. Though it is still conjecture.
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(Once more, the last paragraph in the last spoiller in the OP in the thread in my signature discusses how one could live through the 8th gate in more detail, not from Rock Lee's standpoint but from a objective NarutoVerse standpoint),

i see your point, but i still believe that the 8th gate would kill. if you use the 8th gate i think that first off it would consume all of the persons chakra (which would cause death), second thing is it just seems like their blood vessels would explode and probably the heart too (don't forget that the gates make the heart work harder) and i believe that the 8th gate would make the heart destroy itself.
 

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i see your point, but i still believe that the 8th gate would kill. if you use the 8th gate i think that first off it would consume all of the persons chakra (which would cause death), second thing is it just seems like their blood vessels would explode and probably the heart too (don't forget that the gates make the heart work harder) and i believe that the 8th gate would make the heart destroy itself.

To quote myself:
"However... while a Hyuga couldn't fix the problem, I do believe that a skilled medic [team], someone with a special ability (Hidan, Tsudae, Saukra, Kakazu, Hashirama, Orochimaru, etc) that doesn't let them die, or one who simply used gates 1-7 excessively (as shown when Guy did this and because of such could recover much easier and quicker) should be able to use that 8th gate without death. People have certainly survived ridiculous scenarios in Naruto due to any one of those 3 reasons (e.g. Tsuande healing Choji and Neji after the Sauske Retrieval Arc, Hidan getting his head chopped off, and Kakashi perfecting his Lightning Blade usage by using it often so that his body is now adapted to letting him use it many times more than when he first did, which was only 2 compared to now is, like, twenty it seems.) so I see no reason why the same can't apply here. It should be possible to survive the 8th gate."

But to be honest with you, because of the power it would unleash, I'm sure Kishi will make it one hit KO; I'm just saying I believeit should be possible to survive ^_^
 

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But to be honest with you, because of the power it would unleash, I'm sure Kishi will make it one hit KO; I'm just saying I believeit should be possible to survive ^_^

haha ok. let's agree to disagree. there's no point in fighting over it. PEACE!
 
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