right behind minato and tobirama
Well i don't see him fighting someone while at the same time he is also resurrecting them.And almost all the people above him as well.
Im pretty sure he is. look at the pictures, you dont seem to know how strong he is.
With Edo Tensei? What world do you live in.
Yup Yup.
So your saying unless you restrict Orochimaru's power hes not Top 10?
What you tryna say?
With 4 Edo Tensei Hokage..wow.
right behind minato and tobirama
plz kid like i want your time.
all your doing is calling ppl names and saying gtfo, like always.
Well i don't see him fighting someone while at the same time he is also resurrecting them.
Minato beats.
Tobirama beats.
Hashirama beats.
Obito beats.
Madara beats.
Sasuke beats.
DSM Kabuto beats.
SO6P beats (obviously)
Itachi beats.
Sasuke beats.
Nagato beats.
By hype Hiruzen also beats.
Orochimaru does not beat Kabuto. DSM Kabuto is basically an upgraded version of Orochimaru.
OT: He is top 20 right now. Possibly top 15.
With 4 Edo Tensei Hokage all at once hes Top 10, get it right.
Well atleast you see Orochimaru isnt weak at all..
Edo is restricted. even if it isn't, its not like Orochimaru has bodies laying around during fights.
He isn't top 10.
Orochimaru beats bolded. Plus, I don't know why you included the Sage and Hype Hiruzen. Lmfao.
None of the people who i said Orochimaru can defeat could ever defeat him or even be on his level, select one ninja you listed if your so sure he can defeat him and throw some reasons why Orochimaru cant defeat him.
If not then gtfo with all your bs.
-If Tobirama has ET than Orochimaru has ET. "Tobirama has lots of Kinjutsu to beat him" Orochimaru's hobby is creating jutsu, so I suppose he has twice as much.I said obviously and by hype on purpose.
Tobirama also has ET and allot of kinjutsu, could beat him.
Minato obviously beats him, it's just too much for him.
DSM Kabuto is a stronger version of Orochimaru, also has genjutsu.
And as we know, Orochimaru has been trolled by genjutsu numerous times.
And one thing that you guys don't even realize is that Orochimaru can't fully control Hashirama, and when he does Hashirama is made complete and utter fodder.
And i also doubt he can control Minato because he's the 9 tails yin jin.
Only thing Orochimaru ever created was a jutsu to steal young kids their bodies, that and Edo Tensei is all he has for Kinjutsu.-If Tobirama has ET than Orochimaru has ET. "Tobirama has lots of Kinjutsu to beat him" Orochimaru's hobby is creating jutsu, so I suppose he has twice as much.
-Minato doesn't "obviously" beat him. Orochimaru was a choice for Hokage over Minato for a reason; he only didn't get it due to his twisted ideology.
-Once Orochimaru touches DSM Kabuto he's done. No more DSM, no more Orochimaru cells, no more chakra.
- I never said Orochimaru had to control Hashirama, he doesn't need to summon him. Tobirama, BSM Minato, and Hiruzen added on to himself is enough to beat any opponent.
-Just because Minato is the Kyuubi jinjuuriki doesn't mean anything. Look at the Edo-Jinjuurikis.
Only thing Orochimaru ever created was a jutsu to steal young kids their bodies, that and Edo Tensei is all he has for Kinjutsu.
Jinchuuriki edos were also subdued with the help of the Rinnegan, and they aren't even half as strong all together as 50% Kurama.
Hashirama has life force/chakra comparable to half Kurama.
Orochimaru was able to steal back his own Chakra because Kabuto wasn't moving and in Izanami.
Even if Orochimaru somehow managed to take back his own Senjutsu, Kabuto still has the sound 4's techniques/chakra/dna, Taka's DNA and sage mode.
Tobirama and Hashirama were both weak when they were resurrected and fully subdued by Orochimaru, what makes you think that Hiruzen would be as strong?