Rikoudu V jumada and Jubito

[Raikage23]

Jumada and juubito are missing half of 9 tails power which is as we've seen a lot and rikudou had years to train as Jin so he kills them both with ease

 

[Bronze]

fixed for you

Such delusional child.

 

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Rikudou Sennin was undoubted powerful, but to put him against 2 Uchiha+Senju+Rinnegan wielders with the same exact power he had in his prime is utterly stupidity.

Madara as Jinchuuriki is enough to beat prime Rikudou due to the fact he possess SM, while Rikudou doesn't. Meaning, SO6P cannot damage Madara, while Madara can. Juubito on the other hand, can stalemate with Rikudou.

Jin Madara > Jin Rikudou Sennin.
Jin Obito = Jin Rikudou Sennin.

Team 2 with laughable diff.

How do you know rikudou sennin doesn't have SM? Senjutsu is the juubi only weakness and rikudou did beat the juubi. Senju and Uchiha bloodline doesn't mean squat to the sage since their just watered down versions of his sons bloodline plus the Jin rikudou had full ten tails, madara doesn't

Jin Rikudou > Jin Madara.

 

[Bronze]

How do you know rikudou sennin doesn't have SM? Senjutsu is the juubi only weakness and rikudou did beat the juubi. Senju and Uchiha bloodline doesn't mean squat to the sage since their just watered down versions of his sons bloodline plus the Jin rikudou had full ten tails, madara doesn't

Jin Rikudou > Jin Madara.

Because there is nothing in the Manga or Databook that ever suggested Rikudou Sennin possessed Sage mode. Speculating that he possessed it because he was powerful is fanctional and not be accepted. Both Madara and Obito were planning on fighting and defeating the Juubi without possessing a source of SM.

Regarding the bold, i am going to need panels directly from Manga supporting them, because there are scans suggest they had as Uchiha and Senju, the same power SO6P had.

The last of your sentence is disagreed by Manga, because Juubi can still transform and use its full power without Kurama's Chakra.

 

[YellowFang]

Obito and Madara would win because Hagoromo is handicapped... And in a fight of such level, quantity is game changer even if it's one more...

 

[miromiro]

Another retarded name.
The Rikudou Sennin wins.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Such delusional child.

speaking of yourself in such bad tone... what a shame

Sorry but all manga facts are against you. Let's compare them honestly:

Sage:	able to use any technique at will	Madara:	can not use any technique at will
Sage:	possesed Complete Ten tails	Madara:	posses Almost Complete Ten tails(still lack half of Kurama)
Sage:	had mastery over Rinnegan	Madara:	is very good at Rinnegan but it is uknown if he mastered it as he had it little time.
Sage:	had Sage mode	Madara:	Stolen Sage mode from Hashirama
Sage:	fought COMPLETE Ten tails then sealed it	Madara:	Sealed Ten tails second after summoning it being afraid to stand in front of it and fight it
Sage:	created Moon on his death bed	Madara:	was unable to move at his deathbed
Sage:	recreated/reshaped the world after his battle against Juubi	Madara:	featless as Juubi Jinchurki for now
Sage:	created great weapons known as five treasured tools	Madara:	didn't create any weapons

^^ These are all manga facts , now do you see kid who is in dellusion ?

of course answer is obvious so let's keep it for yourself Lol

Let's be real I can own you any day and any time, just give up and see the truth it doesn't hurt so much as it looks like to admit failure

 

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Regarding the bold, i am going to need panels directly from Manga supporting them, because there are scans suggest they had as Uchiha and Senju, the same power SO6P had.

The last of your sentence is disagreed by Manga, because Juubi can still transform and use its full power without Kurama's Chakra.

Fact That Uchihas Don't have the same dojutsu as the elder son proves that the sharingan is a watered down mutation.

It wasn't stated that the Juubi even used it full power yet, its still incomplete.

 

[Bronze]

speaking of yourself in such bad tone... what a shame

Sorry but all manga facts are against you. Let's compare them honestly:

Sage:	able to use any technique at will	Madara:	can not use any technique at will
Sage:	possesed Complete Ten tails	Madara: posses Almost Complete Ten tails(still lack half of Kurama)
Sage:	had mastery over Rinnegan	Madara:	is very good at Rinnegan but it is uknown if he mastered it as he had it little time.
Sage:	had Sage mode	Madara:	Stolen Sage mode from Hashirama
Sage:	fought COMPLETE Ten tails then sealed it	Madara:	Sealed Ten tails second after summoning it being afraid to stand in front of it and fight it
Sage:	created Moon on his death bed	Madara:	was unable to move at his deathbed
Sage:	recreated/reshaped the world after his battle against Juubi	Madara:	featless for now
Sage:	created great weapons known as five treasured tools	Madara:	didn't create any weapons

^^ These are all manga facts , now do you see kid who is in dellusion ?

of course answer is obvious so let's keep it for yourself Lol

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You have indeed transcended beyond 100% stupidity and ignorance. Let me tell you something:

1- A invalid statement. Many techniques have been invented after the Sage's death. Clan techniques, KKG, Nature transformation etc. He is not Omniscience. He does not know everything, unless you're suggesting he traveled time and learned them. Further more, its a statement coming unreliable character.

2- No, Juubi is complete.

3-http://narutobase.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=585 < That's fictional section.

4- Defeated it and sealed it.

5- Borrowing Juubi's power for that.

6- Juubi's power.

7- Gunbai.

Fact That Uchihas Don't have the same dojutsu as the elder son proves that the sharingan is a watered down mutation.

It wasn't stated that the Juubi even used it full power yet, its still incomplete.

Cells do not equal Dojutsu.

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[KCMNaruto]

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You have indeed transcended beyond 100% stupidity and ignorance. Let me tell you something:

1- A invalid statement. Many techniques have been invented after the Sage's death. Clan techniques, KKG, Nature transformation etc. He is not Omniscience. He does not know everything, unless you're suggesting he traveled time and learned them. Further more, its a statement coming unreliable character.

2- No, Juubi is complete.

3-http://narutobase.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=585 < That's fictional section.

4- Defeated it and sealed it.

5- Borrowing Juubi's power for that.

6- Juubi's power.

7- Gunbai.



Cells do not equal Dojutsu.

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funny you are claiming that I am stupid and yet Current Madara is featless. I and you know who is right and who is in dellusion at least for now... so arguing further will not accomplish anything.

Either way let's wait and see what Juubi Jinchurki Madara can do then we can speak. However one thing is manga fact:

Rikudou had Complete Juubi and Double Rinnegan eyes... Madara lack other half of Kurama and lack other Rinnegan eye.

Can you even guarantee me that Madara will get his left eye back for sure or that he get other half of Kurama from Minato and can even seal it still ?

I doubt it as neither you or I are not Kishimoto... and we are bound to wait and see to have arguments for such debate.

 

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You're basing on the fact, Juubi with completel Chakra is more powerful when half Kurama isn't possessed. I suggest you re-look the Manga once again. Half Kurama's Chakra is a size of bacteria compared to Juubi's Chakra. Its not needed, furthermore, the Juubi can regenerate [

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You have indeed transcended beyond 100% stupidity and ignorance. Let me tell you something:

1- A invalid statement. Many techniques have been invented after the Sage's death. Clan techniques, KKG, Nature transformation etc. He is not Omniscience. He does not know everything, unless you're suggesting he traveled time and learned them. Further more, its a statement coming unreliable character.

2- No, Juubi is complete.

3-http://narutobase.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=585 < That's fictional section.

4- Defeated it and sealed it.

5- Borrowing Juubi's power for that.

6- Juubi's power.

7- Gunbai.



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The Juubi Isn't Complete and you know that unless obito juubi is complete as well seeing that the only juubi that shown feats :yeah:.
Sage didn't use juubi power to create the moon seeing that he already split the chakra into nine tails beast he used his own power to seal the gedo husk into the moon.

 

[Bronze]

The Juubi Isn't Complete and you know that unless obito juubi is complete as well seeing that the only juubi that shown feats :yeah:.
Sage didn't use juubi power to create the moon seeing that he already split the chakra into nine tails beast he used his own power to seal the gedo husk into the moon.

If its not complete, then it wouldn't take on its final and original form, Shinju. And you're implying Madara cannot, despite the latter claiming he can use Rinnegan's FULL power to achieve the moon's creation.

 

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If its not complete, then it wouldn't take on its final and original form, Shinju. And you're implying Madara cannot, despite the latter claiming he can use Rinnegan's FULL power to achieve the moon's creation.

So if it was complete why woudl madara need kurama and gyuki? if me one reason? madara him self said obito was in a rush since be summoned the juubi without 9 tails and 8 tails.

I didn't imply anything you're the one that said the sage used the juubi's power to create the moon, when he had already split the chakra into nine beast.

 

[Bronze]

So if it was complete why woudl madara need kurama and gyuki? if me one reason? madara him self said obito was in a rush since be summoned the juubi without 9 tails and 8 tails.

I didn't imply anything you're the one that said the sage used the juubi's power to create the moon, when he had already split the chakra into nine beast.

The Juubi takes time to get its powers back, so absorbing Kurama and Gyuki makes it shorter. Doesn't change the fact it cant go to complete form which it already did.

Rikudou inherited the fruit from his mother. So technically, he used Juubi's power to achieve it.

 

[Exaar]

Rikudou Sennin was undoubted powerful, but to put him against 2 Uchiha+Senju+Rinnegan wielders with the same exact power he had in his prime is utterly stupidity.

Madara as Jinchuuriki is enough to beat prime Rikudou due to the fact he possess SM, while Rikudou doesn't. Meaning, SO6P cannot damage Madara, while Madara can. Juubito on the other hand, can stalemate with Rikudou.

Jin Madara > Jin Rikudou Sennin.
Jin Obito = Jin Rikudou Sennin.

Team 2 with laughable diff.

The bolded is just laughable. Jin Sage > Mardara or Obito in 1v1.

Pre-Juubi sage > Juubi, Pre-juubi obito/madara can't compare to the juubi.

 

[Bronze]

The bolded is just laughable. Jin Sage > Mardara or Obito in 1v1.

Pre-Juubi sage > Juubi, Pre-juubi obito/madara can't compare to the juubi.

I will just repeat what you said. The bold is laughable.

 

[Exaar]

I will just repeat what you said. The bold is laughable.

So Pre-Juubi Madara or Obito can defeat the juubi?

 

[Bronze]

So Pre-Juubi Madara or Obito can defeat the juubi?

Yes they can based on feats and based on their goal becoming its host.

 

[KCMNaruto]

It is clear as day:

Juubi Jin SOSP >=Juubi Jin Madara
Juubiless SOSP >= SM Rinnegan Madara

just deal with it