Uchiha Madara vs Rikudō Sennin

[DemonicAvenger]

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Uchiha Madara vs Rikudō Sennin

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Conditions:

• Madara is current
• The Rikudo Senin is before his battle with the Juubi

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Intel:

• Manga

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Location:

Madara vs the Bijuu

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Distance:

30 Meters

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Restrictions:


Scenario 1: None

Scenario 2: Banbutsu Sōzō

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Intent:

The utter destruction of the the others existance

 

[Touken]

Most definitely the SO6P, considering his prime would be much more powerful than when he was at death's door, where he created the moon.

 

[BlacLord™]

I was going to make something like this, but I thought it would be best to wait until next week, when Madara shows what he can do.

You could say in Scenario 1 that Rikudou just uses Banbutsu Sozo to create something stronger than Madara but.... let's see.

 

[~Sky~]

The Rikudo Senin is before his battle with the Juubi

So he ain't a Juubi Jin huh?

Hmm, I don't think a Juubi Jin (Madara) can lose in a 1v1 battle.

Plus Madara said he only needed his right eye to reach the Sages (Prime Juubi Jin Sage) level.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Madara has one feat so far......blasting off like a rocket. I couldn't say, and I won't they tie.

 

[Avinash012]

Don't know whether Sage can use SM or not if he can use SM then Sage wins this.

 

[Minator93]

Sage low diff U_U

 

[miromiro]

The Rikudou Sennin wins both scenarios.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Sage wins. He has the full juubi.

 

[Inert Brian]

I would say Sage high difficulty since Madara doesn't have his other eye yet.

Remember, as a junchuuriki the juubi is stronger because the power is concentrated. The sage fought the juubi itself, not a jinchuuriki form.

 

[~Sky~]

Sage wins. He has the full juubi.

The conditions of the fight say he's the Sage prior to his battle with the Juubi, so he's not a jin.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

The Rikudou Sennin wins both scenarios.

This right here

 

[AGoodBoy]

Rikudo sennin is completely featless. Everyone will say rikudo, but at the end of the day we're going on massive hype.

I'm gonna go with rikudo, but at the end of the day, for all we know, Sasuke+Naruto could solo the guy. All of his hype has already been reproduced in the manga, and even his feat of the moon has been produced on a smaller scale by someone without any of his OP boosts(gedo, SM, Senju/uchiha chakra, compatibility with his own rinnegan).

 

[Inert Brian]

Rikudo sennin is completely featless. Everyone will say rikudo, but at the end of the day we're going on massive hype.

I'm gonna go with rikudo, but at the end of the day, for all we know, Sasuke+Naruto could solo the guy. All of his hype has already been reproduced in the manga, and even his feat of the moon has been produced on a smaller scale by someone without any of his OP boosts(gedo, SM, Senju/uchiha chakra, compatibility with his own rinnegan).

100% Agree here, although I think your point about Nagato's chibaku tensei is arguable. I give credit to Nagato the fact that he was weakened after shinra tensei'ing an entire village + he stated he could have made it bigger. I wouldn't consider Uchiha chakra a boost because the Uchiha chakra if anything allows him to manifest Madara's MS techs (Susano'o and Tsukuyomi). The reason Madara gave Nagato rinnegan was because he was Uzumaki he'd have the best control.

Anyway, the chibaku tensei as Nagato said is nothing compareable to the moon.

 

[Bronze]

How about we stop overrating Rikudou Sennin because its becoming ridiculous.

Jin Madara is FAR above pre Juubi Rikudou. While in his edo form of SM form, he was arguably equal to pre Juubi Rikudou due to the fact he possess everything the Sage. While Madara has SM and knowledge something Rikudou does not have. So a logical claim can be made that SM Madara was above Rikudou due to his knowledge and SM along with everything he has.

Jin Madara on the other hand is even more powerful than prime Rikudou. Madara stomps him with little difficulty.

 

[miromiro]

How about we stop overrating Rikudou Sennin because its becoming ridiculous.

Jin Madara is FAR above pre Juubi Rikudou. While in his edo form of SM form, he was arguably equal to pre Juubi Rikudou due to the fact he possess everything the Sage. While Madara has SM and knowledge something Rikudou does not have. So a logical claim can be made that SM Madara was above Rikudou due to his knowledge and SM along with everything he has.

Jin Madara on the other hand is even more powerful than prime Rikudou. Madara stomps him with little difficulty.

How about you stop overrating Edo Madara? You don't know what powers Hagoromo did have or not, so all we can take for granted at this point are the feats we've been told about. Madara is Senju and Uchiha, which both are watered down versions of the Sage. Senju and Uchiha themselves don't represent half of Hagoromo's power each. If they did, then the Uchiha and Senju clans would have stomped all other clans back in the day. Only because you combine Senju and Uchiha doesn't mean you get the Sage, but a slightly watered down version of him. Up to this point, Edo Madara had nothing above the Sage. Hell, even pre Jinchuuriki Madara had nothing above the Sage in his prime. Even current Madara might be below the Sage. Hagoromo himself had bigger power than the Juubi thanks to which he defeated it. Madara is Juubi Jinchuuriki now, but that doesn't mean he's more powerful than the Juubi alone. Being a Jinchuuriki means the beast's powers are limited. And Madara's own power doesn't compensate.

The Rikudou Sennin didn't have Sage Mode? Come again, I already explained this to you. You can't compare the man with the purest chakra to some wannabe who combine his own DNA with a Senju's, and became Juubi Jinchuuriki.

 

[AGoodBoy]

100% Agree here, although I think your point about Nagato's chibaku tensei is arguable. I give credit to Nagato the fact that he was weakened after shinra tensei'ing an entire village + he stated he could have made it bigger. I wouldn't consider Uchiha chakra a boost because the Uchiha chakra if anything allows him to manifest Madara's MS techs (Susano'o and Tsukuyomi). The reason Madara gave Nagato rinnegan was because he was Uzumaki he'd have the best control.

Anyway, the chibaku tensei as Nagato said is nothing compareable to the moon.

Uchiha chakra gives much more powerful chakra.
Senju chakra is self explanatory.
A piece of Gedo chakra allowed obito to punch through a massive boulder that previously shattered his arm.
SM allowed naruto to toss a rhino into the stratosphere.

Off all those boosts, creating the moon isn't that impressive when you take into account the moon (circumference) is only about 3x the size of the U.S - diameter the size of the US.
While coughing up blood(dying), with almost no reserves left, while funneling his chakra through only one of the 6th path(1/7 of his power), while the 6path techs are far weaker than when he uses it in his own body, nagato created a chibaku that was probably the size of konoha. That's impressive as hell right there for just a normal guy with special eyes...

How about you stop overrating Edo Madara? You don't know what powers Hagoromo did have or not,

Actually, we know for a fact he didn't have S/t jutsu, Shadow clones, Edo tensei, izanagi, izanami or shit load of current techniques which were recently developed.

 

[Touken]

How about we stop overrating Rikudou Sennin because its becoming ridiculous.

Jin Madara is FAR above pre Juubi Rikudou. While in his edo form of SM form, he was arguably equal to pre Juubi Rikudou due to the fact he possess everything the Sage. While Madara has SM and knowledge something Rikudou does not have. So a logical claim can be made that SM Madara was above Rikudou due to his knowledge and SM along with everything he has.

Jin Madara on the other hand is even more powerful than prime Rikudou. Madara stomps him with little difficulty.

SM Madara was the result of a watered down Senju and a watered down Uchiha, whereas the Elder & Younger Sons were 'pure', and the SO6P was the combination of both Elder & Younger Sons. I'll compare it to the DC Universe; God = Michael + Lucifer, but a watered down angel and a watered down demon would not be able to reach God's power.

SO6P still forever stomps, whether he's the Juubi's host or not.

 

[Bronze]

SM Madara was the result of a watered down Senju and a watered down Uchiha, whereas the Elder & Younger Sons were 'pure', and the SO6P was the combination of both Elder & Younger Sons. I'll compare it to the DC Universe; God = Michael + Lucifer, but a watered down angel and a watered down demon would not be able to reach God's power.

SO6P still forever stomps, whether he's the Juubi's host or not.

You're going to need to show a proof of the bold, because as far as i am concenred, Elder and Younger brothers's cells were passed down to them. Nothing suggests they were weaker, because Madara claimed he is the second Rikudou Sennin.

In the fanfictional world.

 

[Touken]

You're going to need to show a proof of the bold, because as far as i am concenred, Elder and Younger brothers's cells were passed down to them. Nothing suggests they were weaker, because Madara claimed he is the second Rikudou Sennin.

In the fanfictional world.

It's simple biology. Elder Son mates with someone outside of the clan = weaker Uchiha. The process continues until the Uchiha start interbreeding, and at that point, they're all impure versions of the Elder Son. Same goes for the Younger Son.

Have you seen Blade 3?