This chapter...

[AGoodBoy]

Alright, Time for me to Rant and praise the latest chapter. This thread will be split into two sections, I highly doubt everyone will agree with both, so if you respond saying you disagree, try to state which part (rant, praise, all, *this one bit here*, etc.)

Praise

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Spoiler

Holy shit this was a ****ing weird chapter. I mean, I'm torn between giving kishi all my wuts or not. Jesus christ.

Let's get down to this ish! First up!

Sakura:
Holy shit, did we all just see what this ***** done do???

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?
I'm going to say this now; And i'm going to say it slowly. Sakura just proved that she is the greatest medic in this show. If you can show me one scan of anyone creating such a precise, sharp chakra scalpel like that to cut open a person, then using the hole to manually pump their heart, i'll personally syd. Yea, yea, people will come with "Hur dur, she can't regen, tsunade better. PRoof?" She has byakugo. She can release the chakra in it. The chakra from it increases cell splitting. Now sit down and shut up.
Now, I know some people are already oiling their ****s preparing to fap to all their sakura hate. They'll come up with the excuse, "So what, that feats useless".

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That's right, Couple regen, Super strength, and a super shark chakra scalpel and what do you get? A beast. . Sakura would pierce right throw a person with that blade + brute force. Imagine sakura did

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with her chakra scalpel. There'd be guts flying everywhere.
Lastly, Some people will definitely ***** "That's so small, it's nothing like kabuto's". Yea, says you on your fap mobile, right? This chick did this small, precision blade, because of her

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, that couldn't even allow her to use her '

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' anymore. Nothing's stopping her from making a bigger one at normal, byakugo level reserves.

Let's move on to the next star...

Karin:
Holy shit.... I don't think people realise just how OP what karin did was. Just look at this

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.
Kishi simultaneously moved karin up several ranks and, again, made the relevancy of tsunade's regeneration even lower.
Let's look at what karin's capable of now.

• The chick is able to sense anyone from miles away by discerning each individual chakra from one another [
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  ](not the best example but fastest to show my point). Just beware of the fact that she could discern sasuke's chakra among that large army of differing chakra.
• The chick is able to
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  . You a chakra sensor? You think you gone find me? **** you, ima hide *****. In hidden mist, smoke bombs, a forest, or any type of cover, this woman acts as a pseudo muu and completely vanishes from sensor's radars.
• This chick can shit on
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  , or
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  . *note, she just unlocked the chains, so don't cry asspull that she didn't use it on killer bee*
• And the piece de resistance... This chick... This chick right here... This chick has a super healing factor which requires weaving
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  . Just look at
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  page again, for the third time. Zetsu completely blasted through every organ in her mid section. Heart? Gone. Liver? Gone. Kidney? Gone. Womb? Gone. Stomach? Gone. Karin's reaction? Bite her arm and walk that shit off. Who was the last person to do this?
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  . I don't know if kishimoto is intentionally trying to make tsunade's regen seem less significant, but right now; Karin, Kabuto, Kimimaro, Hashirama, Madara(by hashriama), have now all shown super healing which requires 0 seals. And, that's not counting the people who are immortal just because... **** logic (orochimaru anyone?).

Madara Uchiha:
I'm gonna come back to this mufu** in the rant section. But, for now, let's give him some praise.
What happened when this guy absorbed SM?

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.
What happened to obito when he absorbed juubi? Oh god!

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!

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!

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! noooooo!!!
What happened to madara when he absorbed juubi?

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.

I mean holy fk. At this point there is only one way to defeat this guy.
SM + Juubi + Rinnegan - This guy's got all the OP benefits of Juubito(immune to ninjutsu, kamui, genjutsu, taijutsu, healing, flight), and none of the weakness(SM). There is literally nothing at this point that SA has to defeat this guy.
The only way. The one and only way I'm accepting madara gets defeated is by someone eating the fruit.
If madara dies to friendship. **** kishi.
If madara dies to tnj. **** kishi.
If madara dies to some susano'o-kyuubi combo. **** kishi (madara has PS too).

Unless he dies to fruit, or naruto/sasuke somehow awakening the power of the younger/older brother, respectively, kishi completely asspulled.

Nice job writing yourself into a hole, kishi. I await to see how you write yourself out of it.

Rant

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Alright, I have a few gripes with this chapter...

Spoiler

Madara Uchiha:
Back to this mufu**... What the hell is

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? what kind of look is this? The guy looks like a homos*xual clown at cirque de soleil. wtf is up with that shit on his forhead? I mean come on.

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.. .And I hate obito, but

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shit is g*y as hell. So, wait, Obito absorbs the juubi and he gets some sort of frills/protrusions all over his body. But, madara absorbs the juubi and he gets a chakra shirt and a massive forhead? Lmao Lol. Madara lost 4000 epic points. Kishi should've kept his BAMF look, just give him white here and a chakra cloak.

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Retcon
Alright, I'm done insulting Mads. Let's move on to my biggest gripe of this chapter.

So, Last 2 chapters, fans all over begun tossing out predictions, theories and assumptions about what it could possibly be that the kyuubi told gaara. At first, most, if not all of us, came up with the assumption that they were simply going to either minato or tsunade. The former assumption was quickly thrown out the window for the latter. Until, last chapter where the latter went flying with it. Therefore, people came back to the general idea that they were going back to minato to just get the other half of the kyuubi. However, although this was a cool assumption and all, it was accepted as complete rubbish and people kept clawing away.

Now, I don't know any thread, off the top of my head, which covered why this was complete rubbish, but I will give a brief overview of it right here. In short, It came down to

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scan.

"I will drag the 9 tail back into me[become it's jin again], and die with it inside me[because I'm already ****ing dying from it being removed]". Let's look at it again.

1. Kushina's dying
2. Kushina's dying because her bijuu was
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   "
   1. maybe she's dying because she just gave birth? Nope,
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      . Back to 2
3. Kushina's dying regardless if she drags her bijuu back into her [becoming a jin again doesn't work]
4. Naruto

But, "You just said it, kushina's dying. So, even when she becomes a Jin again, she'd still be dying." you say.

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. With a

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, and a

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, he still became jin and proceeded to heal up through the established fact that Bijuu's increase recovery rate. [

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->

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]
Furthermore, Kushina was a full fledged uzumaki at this point. A full fledged uzumaki who was dying, not

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, yet she acknowledged she'd still be dying even if she dragged kyuubi back in! Dying trumps dead any day! If becoming a jin can't save a dying man, it can't save an already dead man!
Finally, and this is the part that should drive this home. If, and that's a big if, this method could remotely work. Why the **** didn't minato use it on kushina??? Hmmmm!?!??! did minato secretly hate his family??? Did he hate his life?? was he looking for a reason to kill himself and leave his child in lonely torment?? So, Kushina could have become a jin again and lived a happy life with her family, but minato and her just up and decide to die? Right, right.

This is complete and utter BS. Yang Kurama's going to revive a dead kid? **** you kishi if you go through with this.

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[3MESSIAH]

yeah.

sakura>tsunade

dont really understand why people bash madara`s looks.

 

[dualstr]

Well, i agree that Karin is on a whole new level now. But as for her healing technic, i don't think she can use that a lot. Remember when Sasuke got his chest all open, that wound she couldn't heal. Tsunade/sakura can stand much more time suffering damage than her i think. I'd just want to know what would happen if she loses her arms in any attack, maybe she's done lol

 

[RikudouMadara]

I like Madaras new look. He is nao....RikudouMadara! XD I agree with most.

 

[BlacLord™]

Tsunade is a better medic by far.

She healed a dying Shikamaru with a tap, whereas all Sakura could do was struggle. And the Byakugou increases cell replication and division, it doesn't "split" them.

She's in the Top 3 for medics though.

 

[-Punk-]

I stopped the reading the praise after what you said for Sakura , did you forget what she did back when Kankuro was dying ? What she did to Naruto was cool & all , but of course people are taking this out of proportion , what she did was logical of a medic of her caliber , something she already showed in the beginning of part 2 , this is expected for medic ninjas & better medic? That spot is for Kabuto , if it really him in front of Sauske , just watch what he is gonna do to save him.

Karin was awesome indeed , I always had faith on her & in the entire clan , glad to see she has the same abilities as Kushina & this will sting to some of her haters , gonna be a good week , best sensor of the series too. #Respect




And I agree on your last part about Kuahina , the only thing I can say about that is that since its not the same half , maybe it will work , but te chapter did said that it might not work anyways , so who knows what exactly is going to happen.

 

[Cursed Prince]

I agree on almost every point. Nice, thank you and +rep

 

[AGoodBoy]

yeah.

sakura>tsunade

dont really understand why people bash madara`s looks.

Well, i agree that Karin is on a whole new level now. But as for her healing technic, i don't think she can use that a lot. Remember when Sasuke got his chest all open, that wound she couldn't heal. Tsunade/sakura can stand much more time suffering damage than her i think. I'd just want to know what would happen if she loses her arms in any attack, maybe she's done lol

Karin literally healed up tsunade. She has a massive pool.
As for the sasuke thing, my best guess is kishi just wanted to showcase juugo's ability. Karin's just taken far more damage than sasuke right now.

Lmao if she loses her arm, she holds it in her mouth and sucks away while she fights XD

I like Madaras new look. He is nao....RikudouMadara! XD I agree with most.

Lmao I just don't feel it. I almost had a micro jizz when mads was first introduced. With this new look my first thought was "wtf am i seeing" XD

Tsunade is a better medic by far.

She healed a dying Shikamaru with a tap, whereas all Sakura could do was struggle. And the Byakugou increases cell replication and division, it doesn't "split" them.

She's in the Top 3 for medics though.

You mean tsunade who just came in to the battle after being nicely healed up by karin right? Oh, ok, just checking... Almost forgot sakura was destroying her chakra pool that entire time healing Naruto and SA :|

cells replicate by splitting. It's mitosis -_-. Chromosomes unwind, split, move to poles of cells, cell divides, blah blah blah. I forget most bio by this point.

I stopped the reading the praise after what you said for Sakura , did you forget what she did back when Kankuro was dying ? What she did to Naruto was cool & all , but of course people are taking this out of proportion , what she did was logical of a medic of her caliber , something she already showed in the beginning of part 2 , this is expected for medic ninjas & better medic? That spot is for Kabuto , if it really him in front of Sauske , just watch what he is gonna do to save him.

Karin was awesome indeed , I always had faith on her & in the entire clan , glad to see she has the same abilities as Kushina & this will sting to some of her haters , gonna be a good week , best sensor of the series too. #Respect




And I agree on your last part about Kuahina , the only thing I can say about that is that since its not the same half , maybe it will work , but te chapter did said that it might not work anyways , so who knows what exactly is going to happen.

How is kabuto a better medic than sasuke? Are you high(no offense)? Kabuto couldn't help Kimimaro or Orochimaru. Orochimaru had to even go out of his way to get help from tsunade.
of course I remember what she did for

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. And, yet again, she proved she's the only one to do miracle cures like that. That's nothing like what she just did. She just made a flesh cutting chakra scalpel, then proceeded to manually massage the heart. That's some tight ish right there. No one's remotely done anything like that in NV and that's something doctors use at this present day.


Kushina part will never make sense if it works. Kushina had ying+yang, so she had both parts of kyuubi. Not onyl is naruto half uzumaki, he's also going after half of kyuubi..

 

[Tawleyn]

Alright, Time for me to Rant and praise the latest chapter. This thread will be split into two sections, I highly doubt everyone will agree with both, so if you respond saying you disagree, try to state which part (rant, praise, all, *this one bit here*, etc.)

Praise

---

Spoiler

Holy shit this was a ****ing weird chapter. I mean, I'm torn between giving kishi all my wuts or not. Jesus christ.

Let's get down to this ish! First up!

Sakura:
Holy shit, did we all just see what this ***** done do???

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?
I'm going to say this now; And i'm going to say it slowly. Sakura just proved that she is the greatest medic in this show. If you can show me one scan of anyone creating such a precise, sharp chakra scalpel like that to cut open a person, then using the hole to manually pump their heart, i'll personally syd. Yea, yea, people will come with "Hur dur, she can't regen, tsunade better. PRoof?" She has byakugo. She can release the chakra in it. The chakra from it increases cell splitting. Now sit down and shut up.
Now, I know some people are already oiling their ****s preparing to fap to all their sakura hate. They'll come up with the excuse, "So what, that feats useless".

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That's right, Couple regen, Super strength, and a super shark chakra scalpel and what do you get? A beast. . Sakura would pierce right throw a person with that blade + brute force. Imagine sakura did

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with her chakra scalpel. There'd be guts flying everywhere.
Lastly, Some people will definitely ***** "That's so small, it's nothing like kabuto's". Yea, says you on your fap mobile, right? This chick did this small, precision blade, because of her

You must be registered for see links

, that couldn't even allow her to use her '

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' anymore. Nothing's stopping her from making a bigger one at normal, byakugo level reserves.

Let's move on to the next star...

Karin:
Holy shit.... I don't think people realise just how OP what karin did was. Just look at this

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.
Kishi simultaneously moved karin up several ranks and, again, made the relevancy of tsunade's regeneration even lower.
Let's look at what karin's capable of now.

• The chick is able to sense anyone from miles away by discerning each individual chakra from one another [
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  ](not the best example but fastest to show my point). Just beware of the fact that she could discern sasuke's chakra among that large army of differing chakra.
• The chick is able to
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  . You a chakra sensor? You think you gone find me? **** you, ima hide *****. In hidden mist, smoke bombs, a forest, or any type of cover, this woman acts as a pseudo muu and completely vanishes from sensor's radars.
• This chick can shit on
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  , or
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  . *note, she just unlocked the chains, so don't cry asspull that she didn't use it on killer bee*
• And the piece de resistance... This chick... This chick right here... This chick has a super healing factor which requires weaving
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  . Just look at
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  page again, for the third time. Zetsu completely blasted through every organ in her mid section. Heart? Gone. Liver? Gone. Kidney? Gone. Womb? Gone. Stomach? Gone. Karin's reaction? Bite her arm and walk that shit off. Who was the last person to do this?
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  . I don't know if kishimoto is intentionally trying to make tsunade's regen seem less significant, but right now; Karin, Kabuto, Kimimaro, Hashirama, Madara(by hashriama), have now all shown super healing which requires 0 seals. And, that's not counting the people who are immortal just because... **** logic (orochimaru anyone?).

Madara Uchiha:
I'm gonna come back to this mufu** in the rant section. But, for now, let's give him some praise.
What happened when this guy absorbed SM?

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.
What happened to obito when he absorbed juubi? Oh god!

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!

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!

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! noooooo!!!
What happened to madara when he absorbed juubi?

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.

I mean holy fk. At this point there is only one way to defeat this guy.
SM + Juubi + Rinnegan - This guy's got all the OP benefits of Juubito(immune to ninjutsu, kamui, genjutsu, taijutsu, healing, flight), and none of the weakness(SM). There is literally nothing at this point that SA has to defeat this guy.
The only way. The one and only way I'm accepting madara gets defeated is by someone eating the fruit.
If madara dies to friendship. **** kishi.
If madara dies to tnj. **** kishi.
If madara dies to some susano'o-kyuubi combo. **** kishi (madara has PS too).

Unless he dies to fruit, or naruto/sasuke somehow awakening the power of the younger/older brother, respectively, kishi completely asspulled.

Nice job writing yourself into a hole, kishi. I await to see how you write yourself out of it.

Rant

---

Alright, I have a few gripes with this chapter...

Spoiler

Madara Uchiha:
Back to this mufu**... What the hell is

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? what kind of look is this? The guy looks like a homos*xual clown at cirque de soleil. wtf is up with that shit on his forhead? I mean come on.

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.. .And I hate obito, but

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shit is g*y as hell. So, wait, Obito absorbs the juubi and he gets some sort of frills/protrusions all over his body. But, madara absorbs the juubi and he gets a chakra shirt and a massive forhead? Lmao Lol. Madara lost 4000 epic points. Kishi should've kept his BAMF look, just give him white here and a chakra cloak.

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Retcon
Alright, I'm done insulting Mads. Let's move on to my biggest gripe of this chapter.

So, Last 2 chapters, fans all over begun tossing out predictions, theories and assumptions about what it could possibly be that the kyuubi told gaara. At first, most, if not all of us, came up with the assumption that they were simply going to either minato or tsunade. The former assumption was quickly thrown out the window for the latter. Until, last chapter where the latter went flying with it. Therefore, people came back to the general idea that they were going back to minato to just get the other half of the kyuubi. However, although this was a cool assumption and all, it was accepted as complete rubbish and people kept clawing away.

Now, I don't know any thread, off the top of my head, which covered why this was complete rubbish, but I will give a brief overview of it right here. In short, It came down to

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scan.

"I will drag the 9 tail back into me[become it's jin again], and die with it inside me[because I'm already ****ing dying from it being removed]". Let's look at it again.

1. Kushina's dying
2. Kushina's dying because her bijuu was
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   , "
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   "
   1. maybe she's dying because she just gave birth? Nope,
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      . Back to 2
3. Kushina's dying regardless if she drags her bijuu back into her [becoming a jin again doesn't work]
4. Naruto

But, "You just said it, kushina's dying. So, even when she becomes a Jin again, she'd still be dying." you say.

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. With a

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, and a

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, he still became jin and proceeded to heal up through the established fact that Bijuu's increase recovery rate. [

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->

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]
Furthermore, Kushina was a full fledged uzumaki at this point. A full fledged uzumaki who was dying, not

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, yet she acknowledged she'd still be dying even if she dragged kyuubi back in! Dying trumps dead any day! If becoming a jin can't save a dying man, it can't save an already dead man!
Finally, and this is the part that should drive this home. If, and that's a big if, this method could remotely work. Why the **** didn't minato use it on kushina??? Hmmmm!?!??! did minato secretly hate his family??? Did he hate his life?? was he looking for a reason to kill himself and leave his child in lonely torment?? So, Kushina could have become a jin again and lived a happy life with her family, but minato and her just up and decide to die? Right, right.

This is complete and utter BS. Yang Kurama's going to revive a dead kid? **** you kishi if you go through with this.

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While I agree with some of your points, let me offer an explanation.
First, about Karin, she wasn't the only one healing her wounds.

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clearly shows Juugo doing his weird chakra/skin tissue transfer ability. We've seen this thing heal wounds just as fatal (paired with her regen bite, it's clear why she recovered so quickly.)

Second, about Naruto getting Kurama's other half.
I'll address a few of your points.

• Obito healed with the Juubi

This is possible because Obito had chakra reserves left over to take control over the Juubi. He took potentially fatal physical wounds, but even a dying man has the potential to have a lot of chakra left over. This goes into my next point.

• Kushina could not recover with the Kyuubi

This is because it's the exact opposite that it was with Obito. Kushina was suffering complete drainage of her chakra. Between having Kyuubi extracted and using her chakra chains to help Minato (And several minutes lying next to Naruto while her life force became weaker) she was on the verge of having no chakra left whatsoever. Having no chakra meant that she could not restrain the kyuubi within herself properly, and possibly the act of re-sealing him would have completely drained her in the first place. A body with no chakra is a dead body, and there's nothing I can think of that has been shown otherwise.

• Naruto is effectively dead.

This is the only part that I am not very sure about, and the whole idea is very sketchy. But I could offer some attempt at logic. First, his blood is still pumping, and he's still got air running through his lungs, thanks to Sakura. Without her, I don't see how this would be possible. He is still alive, and modern medicine is proof that methods to keep the heart beating and oxygen flowing can keep a person alive through the most traumatizing physical damage you could think of. (Heart transplants break open the chest, crack ribs open and completely remove and detach the heart from the bloodstream for several seconds before being replaced with a new heart.)

If Naruto is alive, then he still has a chakra pool in reserve. I would say that he's worn out by now because of how much fighting he's done, but I'm sure that's counteracted by Kurama (up until he's wrenched out). All he's done is lie there, so I'm sure he has plenty of chakra. But he doesn't need it.

Kushina needed chakra because she had to contain the Kyuubi. Naruto is friends with him. Not only will he not have to expend chakra to re-seal/transfer the yin Kurama, but the yin Kurama can give naruto chakra and life force and all that "Midichlorian" level nonsense.

You can stop reading there, but I want to reiterate a point I made earlier, the reason this will work is because if Kushina had re-sealed the Kyuubi inside her, then she would not have died because of the extraction. She would have died because she would have had no chakra left in her body.
I'm aware that characters say "I'm out of chakra" but what they really mean is that they're at their limit for expenditures. Literally no chakra = death.

 

[-Punk-]

What the hell? I never said he was a better medic than Sauske , who is high here ? I said if Kabutos feet were the ones shown at the end of the chapter , he will save him .

& what Sakhra did is expected from a medic ninja , it's not abig deal to me , but I guess to some people is , oh & Kabuto has come a long way since part 1 .

 

[-Spoiler-]

Lol i agree with all your points especially the part about yang kurama if it was that easy why the f**k did minato kill himself and kushina :|

 

[AGoodBoy]

While I agree with some of your points, let me offer an explanation.
First, about Karin, she wasn't the only one healing her wounds.

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clearly shows Juugo doing his weird chakra/skin tissue transfer ability. We've seen this thing heal wounds just as fatal (paired with her regen bite, it's clear why she recovered so quickly.)

Second, about Naruto getting Kurama's other half.
I'll address a few of your points.

• Obito healed with the Juubi

This is possible because Obito had chakra reserves left over to take control over the Juubi. He took potentially fatal physical wounds, but even a dying man has the potential to have a lot of chakra left over. This goes into my next point.

• Kushina could not recover with the Kyuubi

This is because it's the exact opposite that it was with Obito. Kushina was suffering complete drainage of her chakra. Between having Kyuubi extracted and using her chakra chains to help Minato (And several minutes lying next to Naruto while her life force became weaker) she was on the verge of having no chakra left whatsoever. Having no chakra meant that she could not restrain the kyuubi within herself properly, and possibly the act of re-sealing him would have completely drained her in the first place. A body with no chakra is a dead body, and there's nothing I can think of that has been shown otherwise.

• Naruto is effectively dead.

This is the only part that I am not very sure about, and the whole idea is very sketchy. But I could offer some attempt at logic. First, his blood is still pumping, and he's still got air running through his lungs, thanks to Sakura. Without her, I don't see how this would be possible. He is still alive, and modern medicine is proof that methods to keep the heart beating and oxygen flowing can keep a person alive through the most traumatizing physical damage you could think of. (Heart transplants break open the chest, crack ribs open and completely remove and detach the heart from the bloodstream for several seconds before being replaced with a new heart.)

If Naruto is alive, then he still has a chakra pool in reserve. I would say that he's worn out by now because of how much fighting he's done, but I'm sure that's counteracted by Kurama (up until he's wrenched out). All he's done is lie there, so I'm sure he has plenty of chakra. But he doesn't need it.

Kushina needed chakra because she had to contain the Kyuubi. Naruto is friends with him. Not only will he not have to expend chakra to re-seal/transfer the yang Kurama, but the yang Kurama can give naruto chakra and life force and all that "Midichlorian" level nonsense.

You can stop reading there, but I want to reiterate a point I made earlier, the reason this will work is because if Kushina had re-sealed the Kyuubi inside her, then she would not have died because of the extraction. She would have died because she would have had no chakra left in her body.
I'm aware that characters say "I'm out of chakra" but what they really mean is that they're at their limit for expenditures. Literally no chakra = death.

Juugo only

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so she wouldn't fall and get hurt. Juugo literally can't heal karin because she doesn't possess a cursed seal of his to allow him to safely transfer his chakra over to her without her dying. [

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] He didn't even get young.[

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] So, no.

Umm... A jinchuriki literally can't die by being out of their normal reserves. They always have the bijuu to revitalize them. It's literally impossible to die unless you somehow drain the bijuu too. It's far easier to die from severe injury than chakra loss. Just look here; Jiraiya specifically tells naruto to

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his entire normal reserve. Then, naruto

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when his entire normal reserves were locked. No offence, but what you're saying is not only wrong, it's also impossible. Kushina wouldn't die from running out of chakra if she became a jin again, kyuubi would hand over chakra if the going gets tough because he's just as much afraid of his jin dying as they are of dying.(there's a manga scan where he says this to naruto, can't remember it). Furthermore, kushina wasn't actually out of chakra at all, she was just under severe strain from using that jutsu on a very weak body. Her chakra pool was essentially full because the only thing she did that entire day was give birth and create chakra chains.
I'm not going to deny the fact that naruto's penultimate death is potentially being postponed, but your chakra explanation isn't correct, sorry.

What the hell? I never said he was a better medic than Sauske , who is high here ? I said if Kabutos feet were the ones shown at the end of the chapter , he will save him .

& what Sakhra did is expected from a medic ninja , it's not abig deal to me , but I guess to some people is , oh & Kabuto has come a long way since part 1 .

I misunderstood you then. You said "And better medic? That spot is reserved for kabuto" so, i linked it as you saying kabuto's better. sorry.

Anyway, yea, I'm gonna go digging to try figure out whose feet those are... I think it's kabuto's, also. *crosses fingers* Please be itachi */crosses fingers*

 

[MizukiIsTobi]

Alright, Time for me to Rant and praise the latest chapter. This thread will be split into two sections, I highly doubt everyone will agree with both, so if you respond saying you disagree, try to state which part (rant, praise, all, *this one bit here*, etc.)

Praise

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Spoiler

Holy shit this was a ****ing weird chapter. I mean, I'm torn between giving kishi all my wuts or not. Jesus christ.

Let's get down to this ish! First up!

Sakura:
Holy shit, did we all just see what this ***** done do???

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?
I'm going to say this now; And i'm going to say it slowly. Sakura just proved that she is the greatest medic in this show. If you can show me one scan of anyone creating such a precise, sharp chakra scalpel like that to cut open a person, then using the hole to manually pump their heart, i'll personally syd. Yea, yea, people will come with "Hur dur, she can't regen, tsunade better. PRoof?" She has byakugo. She can release the chakra in it. The chakra from it increases cell splitting. Now sit down and shut up.
Now, I know some people are already oiling their ****s preparing to fap to all their sakura hate. They'll come up with the excuse, "So what, that feats useless".

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That's right, Couple regen, Super strength, and a super shark chakra scalpel and what do you get? A beast. . Sakura would pierce right throw a person with that blade + brute force. Imagine sakura did

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with her chakra scalpel. There'd be guts flying everywhere.
Lastly, Some people will definitely ***** "That's so small, it's nothing like kabuto's". Yea, says you on your fap mobile, right? This chick did this small, precision blade, because of her

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, that couldn't even allow her to use her '

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' anymore. Nothing's stopping her from making a bigger one at normal, byakugo level reserves.

Let's move on to the next star...

Karin:
Holy shit.... I don't think people realise just how OP what karin did was. Just look at this

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.
Kishi simultaneously moved karin up several ranks and, again, made the relevancy of tsunade's regeneration even lower.
Let's look at what karin's capable of now.

• The chick is able to sense anyone from miles away by discerning each individual chakra from one another [
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  ](not the best example but fastest to show my point). Just beware of the fact that she could discern sasuke's chakra among that large army of differing chakra.
• The chick is able to
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  . You a chakra sensor? You think you gone find me? **** you, ima hide *****. In hidden mist, smoke bombs, a forest, or any type of cover, this woman acts as a pseudo muu and completely vanishes from sensor's radars.
• This chick can shit on
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  , or
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  . *note, she just unlocked the chains, so don't cry asspull that she didn't use it on killer bee*
• And the piece de resistance... This chick... This chick right here... This chick has a super healing factor which requires weaving
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  . Just look at
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  page again, for the third time. Zetsu completely blasted through every organ in her mid section. Heart? Gone. Liver? Gone. Kidney? Gone. Womb? Gone. Stomach? Gone. Karin's reaction? Bite her arm and walk that shit off. Who was the last person to do this?
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  . I don't know if kishimoto is intentionally trying to make tsunade's regen seem less significant, but right now; Karin, Kabuto, Kimimaro, Hashirama, Madara(by hashriama), have now all shown super healing which requires 0 seals. And, that's not counting the people who are immortal just because... **** logic (orochimaru anyone?).

Madara Uchiha:
I'm gonna come back to this mufu** in the rant section. But, for now, let's give him some praise.
What happened when this guy absorbed SM?

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.
What happened to obito when he absorbed juubi? Oh god!

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!

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!

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! noooooo!!!
What happened to madara when he absorbed juubi?

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.

I mean holy fk. At this point there is only one way to defeat this guy.
SM + Juubi + Rinnegan - This guy's got all the OP benefits of Juubito(immune to ninjutsu, kamui, genjutsu, taijutsu, healing, flight), and none of the weakness(SM). There is literally nothing at this point that SA has to defeat this guy.
The only way. The one and only way I'm accepting madara gets defeated is by someone eating the fruit.
If madara dies to friendship. **** kishi.
If madara dies to tnj. **** kishi.
If madara dies to some susano'o-kyuubi combo. **** kishi (madara has PS too).

Unless he dies to fruit, or naruto/sasuke somehow awakening the power of the younger/older brother, respectively, kishi completely asspulled.

Nice job writing yourself into a hole, kishi. I await to see how you write yourself out of it.

Rant

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Alright, I have a few gripes with this chapter...

Spoiler

Madara Uchiha:
Back to this mufu**... What the hell is

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? what kind of look is this? The guy looks like a homos*xual clown at cirque de soleil. wtf is up with that shit on his forhead? I mean come on.

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.. .And I hate obito, but

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shit is g*y as hell. So, wait, Obito absorbs the juubi and he gets some sort of frills/protrusions all over his body. But, madara absorbs the juubi and he gets a chakra shirt and a massive forhead? Lmao Lol. Madara lost 4000 epic points. Kishi should've kept his BAMF look, just give him white here and a chakra cloak.

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Retcon
Alright, I'm done insulting Mads. Let's move on to my biggest gripe of this chapter.

So, Last 2 chapters, fans all over begun tossing out predictions, theories and assumptions about what it could possibly be that the kyuubi told gaara. At first, most, if not all of us, came up with the assumption that they were simply going to either minato or tsunade. The former assumption was quickly thrown out the window for the latter. Until, last chapter where the latter went flying with it. Therefore, people came back to the general idea that they were going back to minato to just get the other half of the kyuubi. However, although this was a cool assumption and all, it was accepted as complete rubbish and people kept clawing away.

Now, I don't know any thread, off the top of my head, which covered why this was complete rubbish, but I will give a brief overview of it right here. In short, It came down to

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scan.

"I will drag the 9 tail back into me[become it's jin again], and die with it inside me[because I'm already ****ing dying from it being removed]". Let's look at it again.

1. Kushina's dying
2. Kushina's dying because her bijuu was
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   , "
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   "
   1. maybe she's dying because she just gave birth? Nope,
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      . Back to 2
3. Kushina's dying regardless if she drags her bijuu back into her [becoming a jin again doesn't work]
4. Naruto

But, "You just said it, kushina's dying. So, even when she becomes a Jin again, she'd still be dying." you say.

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. With a

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, and a

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, he still became jin and proceeded to heal up through the established fact that Bijuu's increase recovery rate. [

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->

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]
Furthermore, Kushina was a full fledged uzumaki at this point. A full fledged uzumaki who was dying, not

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, yet she acknowledged she'd still be dying even if she dragged kyuubi back in! Dying trumps dead any day! If becoming a jin can't save a dying man, it can't save an already dead man!
Finally, and this is the part that should drive this home. If, and that's a big if, this method could remotely work. Why the **** didn't minato use it on kushina??? Hmmmm!?!??! did minato secretly hate his family??? Did he hate his life?? was he looking for a reason to kill himself and leave his child in lonely torment?? So, Kushina could have become a jin again and lived a happy life with her family, but minato and her just up and decide to die? Right, right.

This is complete and utter BS. Yang Kurama's going to revive a dead kid? **** you kishi if you go through with this.

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Took the words right out of my mouth. And added more swears. Kudos

It was cool when Obito got the OP transformation, but now Madara too?? Been there, done that....

 

[Tawleyn]

Juugo only

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so she wouldn't fall and get hurt. Juugo literally can't heal karin because she doesn't possess a cursed seal of his to allow him to safely transfer his chakra over to her without her dying. [

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] He didn't even get young.[

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] So, no.

Umm... A jinchuriki literally can't die by being out of their normal reserves. They always have the bijuu to revitalize them. It's literally impossible to die unless you somehow drain the bijuu too. It's far easier to die from severe injury than chakra loss. Just look here; Jiraiya specifically tells naruto to

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his entire normal reserve. Then, naruto

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when his entire normal reserves were locked. No offence, but what you're saying is not only wrong, it's also impossible. Kushina wouldn't die from running out of chakra if she became a jin again, kyuubi would hand over chakra if the going gets tough because he's just as much afraid of his jin dying as they are of dying.(there's a manga scan where he says this to naruto, can't remember it). Furthermore, kushina wasn't actually out of chakra at all, she was just under severe strain from using that jutsu on a very weak body. Her chakra pool was essentially full because the only thing she did that entire day was give birth and create chakra chains.
I'm not going to deny the fact that naruto's penultimate death is potentially being postponed, but your chakra explanation isn't correct, sorry.


I misunderstood you then. You said "And better medic? That spot is reserved for kabuto" so, i linked it as you saying kabuto's better. sorry.

Anyway, yea, I'm gonna go digging to try figure out whose feet those are... I think it's kabuto's, also. *crosses fingers* Please be itachi */crosses fingers*

I'll say that you got me on the Juugo bit. I had forgotten that he said that while healing Sasuke, and had subsequently become younger because of it.

But I will say that you missed one of my points. Kurama didn't want to help Kushina. It's been stated that the tailed beasts will re-form when the host dies, albeit in several years. The difference between what Naruto did and what was happening with Kushina was that Naruto still had the seal that his father made. This seal was designed to allow a bit of the Kyuubi's chakra to leak through. The dynamics of this effect is immediately recognized by Jiraiya, and he clearly knows how the intricacies of Naruto's seal work. I'm too lazy to search for scans, but I know it was explained to be a two layered seal that keeps the bulk of his chakra away and just lets him sap a little bit from the kyuubi. Kushina's seal was much more violent and restrictive than Naruto's, and probably would not even allow the transfer of any chakra to or from the host.

We know a lot more about Naruto's seal than Kushina's, so how their relationship in terms of sharing chakra is not clear. However, given the visual representation that it was, I would say that it's not conducive to a simple exchange of chakra.

Also, child birth is a really big thing, and without medical treatment, a very large percentage of women will die from it. It was a very dangerous act to give birth before medical advancements came along. On top of that, she's had a tailed beast removed from her, which is clearly a physically draining act, so even if it did nothing to her chakra reserves directly, her body would not be able to mold the chakra correctly to effectively seal the kyuubi. The reason the kyuubi was even able to stab the two of them was because Kushina was running out of power and couldn't restrain him with her chains. I'd say that's an indicator of low chakra if anything.

 

[BlacLord™]

You mean tsunade who just came in to the battle after being nicely healed up by karin right? Oh, ok, just checking... Almost forgot sakura was destroying her chakra pool that entire time healing Naruto and SA :|

cells replicate by splitting. It's mitosis -_-. Chromosomes unwind, split, move to poles of cells, cell divides, blah blah blah. I forget most bio by this point.

Sakura had the Kyuubi's cloak and as I remember, you said that it's been making all the difference at present.

Mitosis is different for animals and plants, cells divide in the case of animals, and they split in plant cells.

Big difference.

 

[shelke]

Sakura is all right. I agree about the rest, especially the damned plot-hole. I mean, what did YOU expect, or anyone for that matter? I lost my faith in consistency way back when Minato was introduced as a Jinchuriki for no apparent reason. Now we will have another major asspull to save the likes of Naruto. Like father like son, a personification of plot asspulls.