Who can beat Minato?

[Bogard]

Yet you care enough to hound me regardless and quite persistently as well. Make up your flip-flopping mind.

Well i have time at the moment, so i usually like to play trolls games in these cases

 

[shelke]

^ Is this your best game? Wow, amazing. Can't guess or predict what you might say next...

 

[Avinash012]

Yup, which is why he needed that Uzamaki Mask for it to work. If no Mask means no RDS



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To bad Oro can't which is why Kabuto body and his statement saying he can suppass Orochimaru. So once again your analogy and fallacious arguments doesn't disprove the ability to use Sakon's KKG without going Sage Mode



Because FTG works by destination from point A to point B. The bones come out of the ground near instant. All it takes is timing, like how Ay strategist of his next warp.




Your trying to make a case as if we aren't talking Kabutomaru here



Where was it stated Madara has a bigger chakra pool then Naruto?



Lol no you do not understand the Seal at all:

Sage Mode you are in harmony with the nature around you are borrowing that power, which if mastered, has no repercussions unlike the curse seal. You also gain an unlimited amount of power (or you're at least limited to the amount of power that the earth and nature can give you but it is safe to say that the earth and nature has far more chakra then Orochimaru(seal) or any human existence).

Curse of seal goes by the chakra Orochimaru gives off. This has nothing to do with taking natural energy itself.

U just said that Orochimaru don't know how to perform RDS?

Ok.

Bone forest is instant?

Ok

How can that proves that Oro can't handel sound 4 abilities?are u saying that Oro automatically can't handel them because he can't handel Sage Mode? the very fact that Kabuto needed Oro's power to surpass him clearly proves that Oro is superior to Kabuto as he don't need anything to surpass Kabuto.


I don't understand CS?

Last time I checked CS users are techinically clones of Juugo and the Origin of Juugo's power is Rychi cave where Kabuto learned to control that ability,the only difference b/w Kabuto and Juugo is that Kabuto can control it but Juugo can't.

Lol what fanfic everything I said about Kabuto's ability is canon. Your having a hard time in denial and bringing fallacious reasoning.

I hate typing wall of text when I clearly know that it is pointless.

Unless u can bring me the scans of none DSM Kabuto using those ablilities,ur Kabuto is fanfic Kabuto.

 

[miromiro]

what .. he can't beat him with his Sage mode , thats what you trying to Say ?

actually he can Beat him even with his MS , but he was defeated Because of the Plot

Minato died by the kyuubi Claw , while Obito was controlling the kyuubi like a pet ​

In which Naruto Manga version does Obito have Sage Mode?

 

[Dark Artist]

In which Naruto Manga version does Obito have Sage Mode?

Sage mode = Sage Obito = Sage of six paths power

hope you get it ..

 

[MuerteMiAmigo]

10 tail obito
current madara
hashirama
PS sasuke
possibly naruto...idk minato may outsmart him lol

 

[Penguin]

Base Minato gets beat or stalemated by

Tobirama, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, EMS Sasuke, Hashirama, Madara, MS Itachi, Nagato, Kabuto, KCM Naruto+, Rinnegan Obito+, and that is it.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I'd love to know how he defeats Kisame.

I mean, the chakra ball sure would pack a punch on a shinobi who naturally absorbs chakra. And those Kunai slashes sure are deadly. I mean, look how it killed an injured Obito!

 

[KingHashirama]

Over 20 people.

 

[Draphsin]

I'd love to know how he defeats Kisame.

I mean, the chakra ball sure would pack a punch on a shinobi who naturally absorbs chakra. And those Kunai slashes sure are deadly. I mean, look how it killed an injured Obito!

Some people argue that marks can't get absorbed & kisame get's blitzed multiple times Zzz.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Some people argue that marks can't get absorbed & kisame get's blitzed multiple times Zzz.

The marks thing is understandable. But, even then Minato still lacks a way to kill him.

 

[shelke]

^ No it isn't. They are made of Chakra. They get absorbed as well.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

^ No it isn't. They are made of Chakra. They get absorbed as well.

I am aware of that. But some people consider them seals, which most likely wouldn't be capable of absorbing. So, the confusion in that scenario is understandable to a certain degree.

 

[shelke]

^ Self-created Confusion, as FTG and all things associated is Ninjutsu by default. Furthered backed by the fact that Minato's seal disappeared when Obito used his Ninjutsu cancellation.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Still not a commonly accepted or known thing.

 

[shelke]

^ Well, there is nothing I can say for that. Lol

 

[Minator93]

No wonder this thread went downhill, shelke happened Lol

 

[Avinash012]

^ Self-created Confusion, as FTG and all things associated is Ninjutsu by default. Furthered backed by the fact that Minato's seal disappeared when Obito used his Ninjutsu cancellation.

That seal disappeared because Obito's body changed after absorbing Juubi,if he can cancel it then why didn't he do that to Tobirama's seal?

If u pay some attention Obito used ninjutsu cancellation after gaining full control over Juubi but the seal disappeared even b4 that.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

U just said that Orochimaru don't know how to perform RDS?.

I fail to see where this point is heading in this discussion.

Bone forest is instant?.

Up rooting from the ground is clearly unpredictable. Do characters know when and where they will appear if this happens?

This is what I meant and NOT the actual process of flooding the whole field

How can that proves that Oro can't handel sound 4 abilities?are u saying that Oro automatically can't handel them because he can't handel Sage Mode? the very fact that Kabuto needed Oro's power to surpass him clearly proves that Oro is superior to Kabuto as he don't need anything to surpass Kabuto..

Once again, fail to understand your case.

I don't understand CS?.

Nope

Last time I checked CS users are techinically clones of Juugo and the Origin of Juugo's power is Rychi cave where Kabuto learned to control that ability,the only difference b/w Kabuto and Juugo is that Kabuto can control it but Juugo can't..

I was right you don't know. If you checked right
1.CS users are from Orochimaru's seal. All of it is secured by portions of his senjutsu chakra[

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]. Oro using Juugo's DNA as the medium. In fact to make things easier. wiki broke this down. Very easy to read and understand

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2. Mistranslation of Juugo clan= Ryu cave. Kabuto explains that Juugo's clan has the ability to absorb natural energy. If you find the viz scan you will see that Kabuto explained that Oro did not care about Juugo's clan transformation nor Juugo's origins of his clan, but the source of how he is getting this power boost. Kabuto once again goes back to the context of talking about natural energy. So In conclusion Ryu Cave=Natural energy.

I hate typing wall of text when I clearly know that it is pointless.

Unless u can bring me the scans of none DSM Kabuto using those ablilities,ur Kabuto is fanfic Kabuto.

Your making the fallacious statement once again.

There will be no scans of Kabuto using sound 5 jutsu because the sequence of the event has only show him use it after entering Sage Mode. And I already called you out on this, which you blatantly ignored.

Don't just leave a Post hoc ergo prompter hoc argument. Back up why the sound 5 is impossible to posses before entering Sage.

I already broke down my reasoning.
-Sakon has prove he can use his KKG with out even going CM and he doesn't have SM.
-Kabuto was able to make drugs and modifications on his own body, like copying the regeneration of Karin and copying a form of Liquid like Suigetsu. Both aren't even exact replicas of the original nor need Sage to use.
-Sage mode only increase ones jutsu and body while Sakon KKG is not needed to use Senjutsu.

 

[Avinash012]

Your making the fallacious statement once again.

There will be no scans of Kabuto using sound 5 jutsu because the sequence of the event has only show him use it after entering Sage Mode. And I already called you out on this, which you blatantly ignored.

Don't just leave a Post hoc ergo prompter hoc argument. Back up why the sound 5 is impossible to posses before entering Sage.

I already broke down my reasoning.
-Sakon has prove he can use his KKG with out even going CM and he doesn't have SM.
-Kabuto was able to make drugs and modifications on his own body, like copying the regeneration of Karin and copying a form of Liquid like Suigetsu. Both aren't even exact replicas of the original nor need Sage to use.
-Sage mode only increase ones jutsu and body while Sakon KKG is not needed to use Senjutsu.

Sakon being able to pull that feat has nothing to do with Kabuto,Iam saying that because Kabuto may not be able to withstand that many DNA's with his normal body.Look at Sasuke and Anko they suffered alot just because of Orochimaru's power and u think Kabuto can handel that many DNA's with normal body?If it is really possible Orochimaru would have gained that ability ages ago.
Regardless,the Kabuto that u have been talking about does not exists in this manga so it is pointless.

I was right you don't know. If you checked right
1.CS users are from Orochimaru's seal. All of it is secured by portions of his senjutsu chakra[1]. Oro using Juugo's DNA as the medium. In fact to make things easier. wiki broke this down. Very easy to read and understand

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If u read the mechanics in that link that explains the difference b/w Juugo's ability/CM and SM.